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Posted: 19 Nov 2014, 21:03 #

1692 - Swiss cantons (Zug) 1 Schilling (1/40 Thaler)

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Posted: 20 Nov 2014, 05:25 #

India Mughal Rupee - Aurangzeb (Khambayat mint) AH 1102 (1691 AD)

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Posted: 22 Nov 2014, 10:32 #

1690 UK - 1 Penny - William & Mary Maundy Coinage
Silver (.925) – 0.5 g – ø 11.72 mm - SP# 3445
https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces37088.html
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Posted: 22 Nov 2014, 19:10 #

Austria 1689 KM# 1245 This one is damaged. Looks like it might have been jewelry once.

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Posted: 22 Nov 2014, 21:41 #

1688 - Zutphen Rijderschelling (6 Stuivers)

-DMK- Just a collector with hoarding tendencies.

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Posted: 13 Dec 2014, 13:27 #

Maundy set

Ecapoe

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Posted: 6 Jan 2015, 22:15 #

Hello,

One step back, and best wishes for 2015,

https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces65505.html
The sheet is my coin

André

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Posted: 7 Jan 2015, 05:17 #

Nepal 1 Mohar NS 805 (1685 AD) - Yoga Narendra Malla KM#337

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Posted: 12 Jan 2015, 12:03 #

Sweden,1 Ore,Silvermynt, Karl XI 1684

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Posted: 12 Jan 2015, 21:32 #

German States Bamberg Km #71 1/24 Thaler 1683

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Posted: 1 Mar 2015, 03:10 #

To Ban Kulin

Try this site for determining which variant of the Maria Theresa Thaler you have.

http://www.theresia.name/en/svariants.html

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Posted: 27 Mar 2015, 20:23 #

1682!!!
German States - Brandenburg 6 Groschen 1682 HS KM# 429

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Posted: 28 Mar 2015, 01:53 #

1681 (ok this was originally thought to have been minted in the 1660's but it's famous for being a New Jersey colonial piece.

This is the St. Patrick farthing originally minted in Dublin, it also circulated in the Isle of man before being purchased by an English Quaker called mark newbie who took them to west New Jersey.

numismaticroy

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Posted: 28 Mar 2015, 16:48 #

1680
4 Pence - Charles II (Maundy Coinage) 1670-1684
Silver (.925) - SP# 3384
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Posted: 29 Mar 2015, 04:51 #

1679
1 Taler - Rudolf August
German States (Brunswick-Wolfenbüttel)

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Gwyde

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Posted: 12 Apr 2015, 00:44 #

3 Kreuzer, 1678 Salzburg, rule of bishop Max Gandolf

A small (20 mm) billon coin

https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces39928.html

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Posted: 12 Apr 2015, 04:16 #

Not sure if this one counts, if not someone else can post a coin for this year.

1677 Lead one sided trial strike of a 5 Thaler coin (German States - Brunswick-Lüneburg-Calenberg)

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Posted: 12 Apr 2015, 10:08 #

1676 - 1/84 Thaler, 1 Kortling or 1 Dreier - German States (Diocese of Würzburg)

nice 12mm coin also my oldest dated coin for now

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Posted: 26 Apr 2015, 13:26 #

UK Farthing 1675 (Spink Charles II 1660-85) SP#3395
I was reluctant to post this one because of its condition, but it is the only 1675 coin that I have!

I also have on in 1674but will wait and see if anyone has anything better to offer before I post it

Roy

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Posted: 26 Apr 2015, 22:58 #

time to wake up

Ya my turn coming up ---as I can do 1670,72,73

cheers Don

Cheers Don

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Posted: 27 Apr 2015, 08:47 #

UK Farthing 1674 (Spink Charles II 1660-85) SP#3395
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Your turn Don

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Posted: 27 Apr 2015, 09:10 #

Thanks Roy

Cheers Don

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Posted: 27 Apr 2015, 10:23 #

1674 Bombay Copperoon
The first coin issued by the East India company for India.

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Posted: 27 Apr 2015, 11:48 #

Hello,

I can't resist. I love this one

for 1672

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numismaticroy

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Posted: 27 Apr 2015, 14:35 #

wow André

I'd love it too if I had one!

Roy

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Posted: 27 Apr 2015, 22:27 #

1671 Sweden - ⅙ Öre Silvermynt - Karl XI

Roy

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dabarre

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Posted: 28 Apr 2015, 02:27 #

Don, where's your 1670? I have 1669!

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fourmack

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Posted: 28 Apr 2015, 03:11 #

Right here

Thats me finished

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Posted: 29 Apr 2015, 03:07 #

German States - Cleves 1669 1 Stuber Km# 30

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Posted: 29 Apr 2015, 03:08 #

Can't go again until 1659!

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Posted: 29 Apr 2015, 12:35 #

1668 Charles II shilling

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Posted: 29 Apr 2015, 22:08 #

Finally I can post something

Danish India, Tranquebar: Frederik III (1648-1670) Pb Cash (UBJ-141; Gray-73d; KM#88)

Obv: Crowned F3 monogram
Rev: Lotus, with numbers "76 ", perhaps intended for 1667 with the 6 and 7 reversed

dabarre

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Posted: 30 Apr 2015, 00:39 #

Krause says this is 76 not 67. KM# 88

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Posted: 30 Apr 2015, 02:05 #

Krause is full of errors and majority of the earlier coins for this series is just plain wrong. Frederik III died in 1670 so it can't be 1676. The defacto standard for this series is UBJ (Uno Barner Jensen) and Krause still hasn't fix the errors nor updated the references based off this book.

I know most collectors refer to Krause here, but it should NOT be used for definite numismatic answers due to it limited coverage and errors. Use standard books for the series and use Krause for quick checks...

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Posted: 30 Apr 2015, 06:34 #

Lithuanian "boratinka" from 1666

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Ecapoe

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Posted: 30 Apr 2015, 07:52 #

Quote: Quant.GeekKrause is full of errors and majority of the earlier coins for this series is just plain wrong. Frederik III died in 1670 so it can't be 1676. The defacto standard for this series is UBJ (Uno Barner Jensen) and Krause still hasn't fix the errors nor updated the references based off this book.

I know most collectors refer to Krause here, but it should NOT be used for definite numismatic answers due to it limited coverage and errors. Use standard books for the series and use Krause for quick checks...

Hello,
The comments field and the number now allow for more diversity in the references. You can use other catalogues and explain the errors. I think most people use Krause because they have it

But I don't find your coin in our database.
Cheers, André
Ps I'll be back in 1655.

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Posted: 30 Apr 2015, 15:34 #

Quote: Ecapoe
Quote: Quant.GeekKrause is full of errors and majority of the earlier coins for this series is just plain wrong. Frederik III died in 1670 so it can't be 1676. The defacto standard for this series is UBJ (Uno Barner Jensen) and Krause still hasn't fix the errors nor updated the references based off this book.

I know most collectors refer to Krause here, but it should NOT be used for definite numismatic answers due to it limited coverage and errors. Use standard books for the series and use Krause for quick checks...
Hello,
The comments field and the number now allow for more diversity in the references. You can use other catalogues and explain the errors. I think most people use Krause because they have it
But I don't find your coin in our database.
Cheers, André
Ps I'll be back in 1655.

Don't get me wrong, I use Krause as well, but only for quick checking of types. But once I am dealing with forum posts and numismatic research, Krause is the last book I use. We have tried numerous times to get Krause to update various sections, but to no avail. There are errors that have been there for a least a decade with no end in sight! But this is really off-topic for this thread...

dabarre

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Posted: 1 May 2015, 02:45 #

If you would, please explain what the OTHER catalogs say about this coin. Is the 76 reversed? Is it a commemorative? Is anything definitive or do they just don't know? I'm curious as to what definitive work you used to come up with the fact that this coin was or should have been dated 1667?
Dabarre

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Posted: 1 May 2015, 04:24 #

Quote: dabarreIf you would, please explain what the OTHER catalogs say about this coin. Is the 76 reversed? Is it a commemorative? Is anything definitive or do they just don't know? I'm curious as to what definitive work you used to come up with the fact that this coin was or should have been dated 1667?
Dabarre

The two major catalogs for Danish Tranquebar coins are:

Danish East India: Trade Coins and the Coins of Tranquebar 1620- 1845, by Jensen, U.B.
Tranquebar: A Guide to the Coinage of Danish India, by Gray, John F.

Jensen's book is the latter of the two books. Now Jensen had written several versions of this book in Danish as well as in English, but the above one is the last book he wrote prior to his passing a few years ago. Based on the work of Jensen, he indicates that the number 76 must have been reversed during engraving and hence the engraver must have meant 1667, but got the order wrong.

We frequently encounter this in several Indian coins. The verbiage I included in my original post is an abbreviated version of:

Flower with 4 petals around a circle, the petals themselves ending in small circles. In between are signs or numbers which can be read as 7 and 6. This coin belongs to the last minted lead coins under Frederik III, so the numbers may be reversed 67 and may indicate the year 1667.

We may never know for sure, but that is the predominate theory as records for Tranquebar are scant during this period. You can find some more information, in Danish, at:

http://www.danskmoent.dk/artikler/ubjf3bly.htm

Regards,

Ram

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Posted: 1 May 2015, 18:03 #

Very informative. Have added this site to my reference material. Thanks,
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eitan190

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Posted: 3 May 2015, 15:16 #

Can't post until 1663

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Posted: 5 May 2015, 16:07 #

Since this is such a great thread and to remove any "controversy", I decided to post the following coin as a follow-up to the 1667 entry. Even though majority of the Tranquebar collectors think it is a reversed 1667 coin, I will post this other 1667 Tranquebar cash. Unfortunately, there is some corrosion on the reverse of the coin and hence the Norse lion is a bit gone

. I, definitely, need to replace this coin with a better specimen in the future...

Danish India, Tranquebar: Frederik III (1648-1670) AE Cash (UBJ-142; Gray-106; KM#111)

Obv: Crowned F3 monogram in half circle, ANO 1667 below
Rev: Norse lion on battle axe to left in beaded circle

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Posted: 6 May 2015, 18:15 #

i can do 1663

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Posted: 6 May 2015, 23:10 #

Quote: jimpopi can do 1663

same here.

dabarre

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Posted: 22 May 2015, 20:05 #

Any idea as to how long we can keep this up? I have a lovely coin from about 410 BC.

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Posted: 22 May 2015, 20:22 #

Impossible to keep it consecutively with the current rules that have been posted...It needs to be relaxed at some point. We will never make it past the 1500s...

Rules:

    No skipping dates
    You must own this coin (exception for 2014)
    It must be dated
    Three years per day, one post per user per day.

Fluke

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Posted: 23 May 2015, 00:19 #

Maybe set a rule where if a year is not posted within 96 hours/ 4 Days then it can be moved onto the next consecutive year if a member has it ready. Just throwing an idea out there to keep the thread well alive.

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Posted: 23 May 2015, 01:11 #

It must be relaxed otherwise this thread will die as there are no known coins for some years. In other years, there are only one or two known coins in the world. While the intentions are good and it lasted this long, this thread will die after a period of time unless we implement some type of relaxation of the rules...

numismaticroy

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Posted: 23 May 2015, 20:14 #

Hi Fluke
I saw one like this on ebay but left it too late to bid for it.

Well done
Roy

I'm going to scan a 1664 1 Szeląg koronny - Johann Casimir
to keep the thread goins

numismaticroy

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Posted: 23 May 2015, 20:46 #

I have managed to scan the coin in but I am not sure of its identity. I think it is a1 Szeląg litewski - Jan Kazimierz from Polish–Lithuanian Commonwealth
Years
1660-1668
Roy

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Posted: 23 May 2015, 21:48 #

Quote: Quant.GeekIt must be relaxed otherwise this thread will die as there are no known coins for some years.

If the thread dies then so be it.
That's the only goal for this thread, read the name of the thread: "How far back CAN we go?"
It doesn't have to go on forever, it was simply a fun thing to pass the time but not many people collect such old coins so its only natural that it slows down or even stops.
If you want this to go on forever make a new thread with such rules or search this "How far back can we go" thread on other coin forum sites, where wealthy Americans who invest thousands upon thousands of dollars in single coins participate. I think they are in the 1400s.

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Posted: 25 May 2015, 03:44 #

Quote: numismaticroyI have managed to scan the coin in but I am not sure of its identity. I think it is a1 Szeląg litewski - Jan Kazimierz from Polish–Lithuanian Commonwealth
Years
1660-1668
Roy

That is correct. Specifically:

Poland-Lithuania: Jan Kazimierz (1609–1672) 1 Szeląg, Vilnius mint (Какареко-388; KM#50)

Obv: Laureate head of Jan Kazimierz right; Legend around - IOAN CAS•REX T•L•B•
Rev: Vytis on horseback left, date in legend around - SOLI•MAG•DVC•LIT•1664

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Posted: 14 Jun 2015, 04:55 #

1663!!!!

Livonia 1663 Solidus Km# 55

I have a 1662 on the way and have a 1661.

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Posted: 14 Jun 2015, 05:24 #

and here is 1662...another Livonia Solidus

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Posted: 14 Jun 2015, 13:26 #

and for 1661 a nice Johann Casimir Solidus/Szelag Koronny

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Posted: 14 Jun 2015, 16:27 #

@muygrandeoso could you also add the sides of the coins with dates on it?

Simply edit your posts that would be sufficient, thanks!

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Posted: 14 Jun 2015, 17:30 #

Quote: Idolenz@muygrandeoso could you also add the sides of the coins with dates on it?
Simply edit your posts that would be sufficient, thanks!

Hi Idolenz,

Thanks for your guidance.

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Posted: 14 Jun 2015, 17:32 #

1660 Bristol town Farthing

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Posted: 14 Jun 2015, 22:03 #

1659 Mughal Empire 1 Rupee Km# 272.1

or

India Independent Kingdom - Golkonda 1659 Km# 18.4

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Posted: 14 Jun 2015, 22:13 #

Sorry. Obverse of Golkonda was turned180 degrees.

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Posted: 15 Jun 2015, 00:13 #

Back in the game

I have 1 for 1652

Cheers Don

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Posted: 15 Jun 2015, 17:06 #

How about a Solidus of Karl X from Riga (occupation by Sweden) for 1658

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Posted: 23 Jun 2015, 02:36 #

1657, Swiss Cantons – Schaffhausen, 15 Kreuzer (with counterstamp); KM#55

Glad to see this thread moving again!

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Posted: 23 Jun 2015, 20:42 #

1656K https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces3317.html

France 1 Liard - Louis XIV

After that I only have a 1612 coin left to add.

Token collector [1600-1899] with some coins

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Posted: 24 Jun 2015, 00:48 #

1655 - Livonia: 1 Solidus - Carl X Gustav (Swedish Occupation)

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Posted: 27 Jun 2015, 21:51 #

1654, Swiss Cantons - Geneva, 12 Sols; KM#45

https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces29668.html

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Posted: 27 Jun 2015, 22:27 #

Nothing till 1635 and 1617

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Posted: 27 Jun 2015, 23:26 #

Mughal AH 1064 (AD 1653) Shah Jahan Rupee, Daulatabad Mint. KM#235.10

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Posted: 27 Jun 2015, 23:31 #

oppps
tomorrow I will put up a 1652

Cheers Don

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Posted: 28 Jun 2015, 23:52 #

Yaaaa 1652 Bristol

Cheers Don

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Posted: 29 Jun 2015, 02:47 #

Been away for about five weeks and now I am back. So, here is another entry for 1652:

Danish India, Tranquebar: Frederik III (1648-1670) Pb Cash (UBJ-135, KM#59)

Obv: Crowned F3 monogram
Rev: D:B: above 1652 (D:B: stands for Dansborg)

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Posted: 30 Jun 2015, 18:37 #

Could someone start a new Slow thread? the old one has apparently stalled, and I, as a latecomer would like to get into the game, but at a more leisurely pace. Thanks in advance.

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Posted: 1 Jul 2015, 01:04 #

Hi! I hope you don't think this thread is finished. It may go several weeks or maybe a couple months before we get the next coin in line. As we go further back in time it is harder to acquire a coin with a date on it. Most coins in these later periods were manufactured without dates or with a set date and were in use for decades.

I don't know what the rule is for starting another line of coins going back, but I do know that this is the second I have seen on this site. You may want to ask the moderator what the rule is for starting another.

In the meantime, I hope you enjoy the list of coins the group has put together up to the last date listed. Some are very unique and rare pieces.

dabarre

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Posted: 1 Jul 2015, 07:08 #

No, I don't- I was just asking someone to start another slow thread

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Posted: 22 Aug 2015, 00:10 #

Here we go ... 1651 German States Paderborn 6 Pfenning Km# 65 Copper

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Posted: 22 Aug 2015, 02:28 #

Glad we got past the impasse. So, on with 1650...

Danish India, Tranquebar: Frederik III (1648-1670) AE Cash (UBJ-133a; Gray-64; KM#52)

Obv: Crowned F3 monogram
Rev: S/PP/50 in three lines, for the ship Sankt Peder og Sankt Poul

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Posted: 22 Aug 2015, 06:05 #

Livonia 1649 Solidus Km#2

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Posted: 22 Aug 2015, 13:14 #

I should take a better picture of this coin

Danish India, Tranquebar: Christian IV (1620-1648) Pb Cash (UBJ-81; KM#44)

Obv: Crowned monogram C4 (retrograde 4)
Rev: D:B:/1648. 'D B' abbreviation for Dansborg

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Posted: 29 Aug 2015, 17:23 #

1647, Swiss Cantons - Luzern, Schilling; KM#25

https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces41999.html

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Posted: 29 Aug 2015, 19:17 #

Indo-Dutch Cash (1646) KM# 35.1

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Posted: 31 Aug 2015, 20:05 #

Quote: "sujit_kumar"Indo-Dutch Cash (1646) KM# 35.1

I would have posted this particular coin (actually, several coins), but unfortunately, they are undated. Hence, it would violate one of the rules (Rule #3: It must be dated). Personally, I don't really care as it is a one year type. But, I don't make the rules

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Posted: 31 Aug 2015, 20:41 #

I interpret it as: "the coin should be dateable" and a one-year-type has one specific date ergo is dateable.

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Posted: 31 Aug 2015, 20:56 #

I just looked this coin up in the catalog. It reads: "ND(1646- )" This is not a one year only type coin! What this means is the first year of issue is 1646 and it is not known when the last year of issue took place.

Therefore, this coin cannot be listed and we need another 1646!

dabarre

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Posted: 31 Aug 2015, 22:28 #

Quote: "dabarre"I just looked this coin up in the catalog. It reads: "ND(1646- )" This is not a one year only type coin!

You are correct. I thought it was a one-year type. Should have checked my sources before relying on my memory

.

So are we saying one-year types that are NOT physically dated are fine? I held back on several one-year types that weren't dated...

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Posted: 31 Aug 2015, 23:02 #

A bit embarrassed to post this one, but its a legit 1646 coin

. I'll see if I can take a better picture of this one:

Danish India, Tranquebar: Christian IV (1620-1648) Pb Cash (KM#40)

Obv: Crowned C4 Monogram
Rev: SPSP/1646DB (4 and D retrograde)

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Posted: 31 Aug 2015, 23:31 #

Arakan: Thado (1645-1652) AR Tanka, broad flan (Mitchiner-358; Phayre: plate I, 8; KM#12.2)

Same inscription on both sides of the coin. The coin has a frozen date of BE1007 = 1645, the year of ascension for Thado. Phayre's verbatim transliteration / translation follows:

1007 Cheng ni Sakheng Cheng phyu Sakheng Sado Meng Tara (BE1007 Lord of the red elephant, lord of the white elephant, Sa-do Meng Tara (Illustrious King of Justice))

Burmese inscription follows:

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Posted: 1 Sep 2015, 02:30 #

How about -

Barcelona 1644 1/2 Seizan Km# 35 Louis XIV French Occupation from the Catalan Revolt

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Ecapoe

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Posted: 4 Sep 2015, 19:34 #

For 1643, a Double Tournois with Louis XIII from France.

https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces52949.html
It is the 1643 E
Available for swap

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Posted: 4 Sep 2015, 19:59 #

Damn it !

I was waiting for the 1643 one and I missed it !

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Posted: 5 Sep 2015, 04:27 #

This is a bit worn. I have trouble seeing the date with a glass and only if I tip it the right way under the light.

France - States - Nevers & Rethel Km#50 Double Tournois 1642 Charles II

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Posted: 5 Sep 2015, 09:01 #

I'm not able to post in this topic anymore, but I saw 2 issues:

1950 photo is still missing.

1827 photo is broken.

Administrateur du catalogue, référent de nombreuses nations antiques et de la Lorraine.
Catalogue administrator, numerous Antique nations and Lorraine referee.

dabarre

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Posts: 57

Posted: 7 Oct 2015, 02:19 #

No 1641 yet? I wonder how long we will go without this time?

dabarre

Ecapoe

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Posted: 7 Oct 2015, 08:09 #

Only 1639 ...

If someone has a 1724, it could restart the french post

https://fr.numista.com/forum/topic26147.html

André

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ZacUK Numista team

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Posted: 7 Oct 2015, 21:24 #

Quote: "Ecapoe"
If someone has a 1724, it could restart the french post
https://fr.numista.com/forum/topic26147.html

Someone just now added a 1724, so I added 1723 as well. Now they seek 1722 ...
Here on the English side, I only have 1612 left to add.

Token collector [1600-1899] with some coins

dabarre

Joined: 21 Dec 2012
Posts: 57

Posted: 5 Dec 2015, 01:39 #

In the 1600's I still have: 1638, 1626, 1624, and 1608-D. Also have a number of 1500 and 1400's and then it gets spotty for me to 440BC.

dabarre

sujit_kumar Catalogue referee

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Posted: 5 Dec 2015, 03:47 #

Nepal: Siddhi Narasimha, NS 761 (AD 1641) Mohar. KM#301

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Ecapoe

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Posted: 5 Dec 2015, 07:45 #

Thanks Sujit, some move !
Beautifull mohar.
Mine is Tyrol 1640:

3 Kreuzer Ferdinand Carol, from the time of the regency of his mother Claudia de Medicis

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Ecapoe

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Posted: 6 Dec 2015, 08:33 #

For 1639, and Austrian Groschen of Ferdinand III minted in Glatz

Glatz is currently in South Western Poland, Lower Silesia.
It was part of Bohemia until the Habsburg got entitled as King of Bohemia and it became part of the Habsburg area. It went to the Kingdom of Prussia in 1742 at the end of the first Silesian war.

For some reason, whereas Breslau coinage is set in German States/Silesia by KM, Glatz coinage remained in Austria.

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dabarre

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Posted: 6 Dec 2015, 19:56 #