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Jarcek Numista team

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Posted: 8 Apr 2016, 23:11 #

Yes, just pretend we are talking about Cuman khanate in the 13th century.

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Posted: 8 Apr 2016, 23:15 #

Quote: "Dato Mikeladze"Harar?

Where are they referenced in Numista ?

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Dato Mikeladze

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Posted: 9 Apr 2016, 01:50 #

they are not referenced here. I opened several times a topic, but no answers.
These coins must be listed as separate country, or under Ethiopia. but someone must to create this or that..

Then we could add our coins !

addrr

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Posted: 11 Apr 2016, 19:47 #

Hello,

321 for me : United States - Pre-Federal coins

I just have a problem, I don't know which coins it is really in our numista list. Could you help me ?

The year is 1787, it's a connecticut cent, but there are a lot of possibilities.
I can read :
AUC... CONNEC
INDE ... IB 1787

Thank you very much !

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loran34

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Posted: 12 Apr 2016, 20:22 #

Hello,

3 other countries for me:

* Austrian States - Salzburg : https://fr.numista.com/catalogue/pieces60739.html
* Austria Habsburg : https://fr.numista.com/catalogue/pieces4847.html
* Russia Empire : https://fr.numista.com/catalogue/pieces4061.html

So, 326 coutries now.

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addrr

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Posted: 12 Apr 2016, 21:38 #

Thanx to Frenchlover for helping me, my coin is KM 3.1 Of Pre-Federal US.

https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces66820.html

GG Laurent !

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muzz0000

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Posted: 14 Apr 2016, 10:40 #

Made the big DOUBLE

300 countries
300 positive trades
next mission 400 Silver club (397-400) and 10000 coin collection (long way to go)---- already have 10000 coins to trade

The mission I have been thinking about though is how hard it would be to do perhaps 100 KM1,s- would that be possible -'------------just checked according to numista there is 239 in catalogue and I only have 61 so just a wild dream I guess

Murray

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Posted: 16 Apr 2016, 15:02 #

Thanks to Frenchlover to helping me for this coin:
https://fr.numista.com/vous/vos_pieces.php?pays=peninsule_malaise

And now 356 countries!!

SRV5490

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Posted: 16 Apr 2016, 23:28 #

321. Hejaz

chomp-master

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Posted: 17 Apr 2016, 18:44 #

Please be informed that Northern Mariana Islands will be removed as there is no proof they're at least NCLTs, according to Jarcek. So we consider them as fantasy coins for now unless we have a contrary proof.

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muzz0000

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Posted: 17 Apr 2016, 18:55 #

What does Nclt stand for guessing non circulating? Tokens

Jarcek Numista team

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Posted: 17 Apr 2016, 19:03 #

Taking Northern Mariana Islands as a country is like lying into your own pocket, I wonder how it managed to stay in the country list for so long.

Anyway, while not feeling sorry for anything, you will still be compensated by creating Duchy of Courland sometime in the future. (A real country this time!)

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Posted: 17 Apr 2016, 19:46 #

Real country ? Like I wrote in another post, Courland was part of Polish Lithuanian Commonwealth, so maybe lets make ALL fief the "real" countries ?
Look on the reverse of the coin, whose coat of arms appears there (Eagle and Pogoń)

And what about Teutonic Order ? There is Malta Order, so why not Teutonic Order ? They still exist untill now.

Jarcek Numista team

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Posted: 17 Apr 2016, 19:57 #

It is still an open issue. Point is that there are many cases like this, which were even less independent.
Estonia and Livonia and Siberia are great examples. But lets not polute this thread. We can discuss it elsewhere.

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chomp-master

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Posted: 17 Apr 2016, 20:25 #

Don't give us merging ideas...

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muzz0000

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Posted: 17 Apr 2016, 22:16 #

Quote: "chomp-master"Please be informed that Northern Mariana Islands will be removed as there is no proof they're at least NCLTs, according to Jarcek. So we consider them as fantasy coins for now unless we have a contrary proof.

That's good- now get rid of those other US "colonies" with token coins like Palau and Marshall islands and even American Samoa

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Posted: 18 Apr 2016, 07:22 #

We already stated, checking online Krause book of 2016, that US Samoa are considered as a local NCLT currency (by the Governor's proclamation) like did Andorra before having their own euro coinage. They won't be deleted.

Marshall Islands and Palau are US equivalents of Cook Islands for NZ, for example.

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muzz0000

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Posted: 18 Apr 2016, 21:11 #

That's crazy comparing cook island to the U.S. Palau and Marshall the Cook islands have there own circulating coins The 2 USA territory nation's only have fantasy coins there lies the difference

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Posted: 19 Apr 2016, 00:00 #

Quote: "muzz0000"What does Nclt stand for guessing non circulating? Tokens

Non Circulating Legal Tender.
No "tokens" here, unfortunately.

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Posted: 19 Apr 2016, 00:02 #

Quote: "muzz0000"That's crazy comparing cook island to the U.S. Palau and Marshall the Cook islands have there own circulating coins The 2 USA territory nation's only have fantasy coins there lies the difference

If you are talking about Palau and the Marshall Islands (hard to tell because the punctuation seems to be missing), they are not territory nations. They are full nations who are in a Compact of Free Association with the United States.

muzz0000

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Posted: 19 Apr 2016, 05:54 #

Than why is Nth Marianna any different? Any nations that only produce fantasy tokens should.not be included in country list

muzz0000

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Posted: 19 Apr 2016, 06:01 #

Added the . Where it was not needed just to keep the jackal happy. compensates for the one I left out last time haha

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Posted: 19 Apr 2016, 06:09 #

Quote: "muzz0000"Added the . Where it was not needed just to keep the jackal happy. compensates for the one I left out last time haha

Ha ha, I had to smile when I saw that.

muzz0000

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Posted: 19 Apr 2016, 06:33 #

According to Google Nth Marianna is included in the same agreement as the other 2 , so why are we treating them differently . Remove all I reckon

Oklahoman Numista team

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Posted: 19 Apr 2016, 14:08 #

Chomp master you are incorrect. The tokens of American Samoa were issued outside of USLaw. There is no ambiguity here. They are not nclt. They are fantasy at best. They were made with no legal authority by a government that did not have that authority. Your opinion does not override the law if the United States.

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chomp-master

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Posted: 19 Apr 2016, 14:16 #

If they bypassed the federal law to create a local alternative currency by par with the legal one, this is not our problem. The important thing is: did the local government REALLY asked for them?

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Posted: 19 Apr 2016, 14:20 #

The territory quarter program of the US did not include a quarter for Marshall Islands or Palau because they are not territories of the US. A quarter was made with N. Marianna Islands because it is a territory of the US. Google is a search engine, not law.

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Posted: 19 Apr 2016, 17:14 #

I disagree chomp-master. The law must be more important than your opinion. Especially in this situation. The token issue of American Samoa is extra-legal. the token is there. The token was made. you can touch this token. But it has no supporting law. There is not even law that supports local issue of currency at par with a federal level in the USA. This issue is Fantasy. It is not in the published hard copy of Krause 2016 catalog, it is in the Krause fantasy catalog. For you to call this an nclt is disappointing. It could be the illustration of the word fantasy in a coin term dictionary.

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Jarcek Numista team

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Posted: 19 Apr 2016, 17:19 #

Ehm, why you did not said this earlier? If Krause 2016 did designate them as X already, and not KM, scan or photo us the page, and I will move them right away.

(I have 2014 edition - I know, shameful) and they still have KMs there.

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Oklahoman Numista team

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Posted: 19 Apr 2016, 18:07 #

let me verify this. I dont want to be dishonest. in anyway. I will contact you with the page number.

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jadejackal

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Posted: 19 Apr 2016, 18:12 #

Quote: "Oklahoman"Chomp master you are incorrect. The tokens of American Samoa were issued outside of US Law. There is no ambiguity here. They are not nclt. They are fantasy at best. They were made with no legal authority by a government that did not have that authority. Your opinion does not override the law if the United States.

That is not technically correct. The U.S. approved the American Samoa constitution, the constitution that was enacted at the time the coins were minted protects American Samoa Indigenous rights, way of life, etc. So since the coins were approved by the native governor of the islands, you can argue they are legit. It is similar to the way Native American tribes mint money on/for their reservations. Krause even has two of these tribes listed as a country in their most recent catalog.

I also just checked 2016 KM catalog and they are still listed on page 57.

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Posted: 19 Apr 2016, 18:18 #

And also in NGC World Coin Price Guide and Values. So American Samoa won't be removed. Debate closed for now.

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muzz0000

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Posted: 19 Apr 2016, 21:14 #

Debate will not be closed until resolved Oki is right, legal facts are more important than personnel opinion

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Posted: 19 Apr 2016, 22:04 #

It will remain closed until Krause would move it to eXonumia. There are other countries which currencies are/were considered illegal when minted, no matter why, so legality of this coinage can't count as a single argument.

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Jarcek Numista team

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Posted: 19 Apr 2016, 22:06 #

May I point you to the other thread: https://en.numista.com/forum/topic49411.html#dernier

It is resolved.

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Posted: 19 Apr 2016, 22:10 #

The debate is closed. When i checked my krause of 2016 and saw its inclusion i calledmy friend Tom Michael at Krause who has replaced George. He said it was reincluded because of research by Gunthor Schoen. So i spoke with the office of Amata Radewagon, the member at large from American Samoa to the US House of Representatives. They said that the 1988 issues are legal, but that coin right of territories are rescinded since then. So only the 1988 are legal. I use this occasion to sauce up and eat a healthy serving of crow. And yes. Some sovereign tribes have issued nclt, so there should be some new countries..Indian States perhaps?

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Posted: 19 Apr 2016, 22:14 #

Quote: "Oklahoman"The debate is closed. When i checked my krause of 2016 and saw its inclusion i calledmy friend Tom Michael at Krause who has replaced George. He said it was reincluded because of research by Gunthor Schoen. So i spoke with the office of Amata Radewagon, the member at large from American Samoa to the US House of Representatives. They said that the 1988 issues are legal, but that coin right of territories are rescinded since then. So only the 1988 are legal. I use this occasion to sauce up and eat a healthy serving of crow. And yes. Some sovereign tribes have issued nclt, so there should be some new countries..Indian States perhaps?

Thank you for chasing down the facts even when they didn't lead where you thought. Respect levels rise.

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Posted: 19 Apr 2016, 22:15 #

Quote: "jadejackal"

Quote: "Oklahoman"The debate is closed. When i checked my krause of 2016 and saw its inclusion i calledmy friend Tom Michael at Krause who has replaced George. He said it was reincluded because of research by Gunthor Schoen. So i spoke with the office of Amata Radewagon, the member at large from American Samoa to the US House of Representatives. They said that the 1988 issues are legal, but that coin right of territories are rescinded since then. So only the 1988 are legal. I use this occasion to sauce up and eat a healthy serving of crow. And yes. Some sovereign tribes have issued nclt, so there should be some new countries..Indian States perhaps?

Thank you for chasing down the facts even when they didn't lead where you though. Respect levels rise.

Thats for sure!

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muzz0000

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Posted: 19 Apr 2016, 22:23 #

Quote: "Jarcek"

Quote: "jadejackal that's good matter closed thankyou for your input OKI-- good to see someone is capable of doing proper research"

Quote: "Oklahoman"The debate is closed. When i checked my krause of 2016 and saw its inclusion i calledmy friend Tom Michael at Krause who has replaced George. He said it was reincluded because of research by Gunthor Schoen. So i spoke with the office of Amata Radewagon, the member at large from American Samoa to the US House of Representatives. They said that the 1988 issues are legal, but that coin right of territories are rescinded since then. So only the 1988 are legal. I use this occasion to sauce up and eat a healthy serving of crow. And yes. Some sovereign tribes have issued nclt, so there should be some new countries..Indian States perhaps?

Thank you for chasing down the facts even when they didn't lead where you though. Respect levels rise.

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Posted: 20 Apr 2016, 03:48 #

Quote: "Hamletmaschine"Would it be possible to reach 300 countries if you only collect silver? I think I'm at 76 countries right now, and could easily reach 100 if I spent some more money, but 300?

DO you guys think it is possible? I have over 250 countries, but only put my silver and gold into numista and those only add to 336 coins and 51 countries...

I collect anything: If it's Italian or Italian states i collect it even more!

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Posted: 21 Apr 2016, 09:44 #

Just an annoucement: *Exonumia* will show up in the country list, and also in the country count. It is already been reported to Xavier to erase it from country count as are tokens already. So please disregard it when counting countries.

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Posted: 21 Apr 2016, 10:15 #

Quote: "loruca"

Quote: "Hamletmaschine"Would it be possible to reach 300 countries if you only collect silver? I think I'm at 76 countries right now, and could easily reach 100 if I spent some more money, but 300?
DO you guys think it is possible? I have over 250 countries, but only put my silver and gold into numista and those only add to 336 coins and 51 countries...

I think it is, but I think it'll be really expensive between NCLTs, Antique & Medievals,...

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Posted: 21 Apr 2016, 22:07 #

322. Byzantine Empire

Hamletmaschine

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Posted: 22 Apr 2016, 08:23 #

Quote: "chomp-master"

Quote: "loruca"

Quote: "Hamletmaschine"Would it be possible to reach 300 countries if you only collect silver? I think I'm at 76 countries right now, and could easily reach 100 if I spent some more money, but 300?
DO you guys think it is possible? I have over 250 countries, but only put my silver and gold into numista and those only add to 336 coins and 51 countries...

I think it is, but I think it'll be really expensive between NCLTs, Antique & Medievals,...

Modern NCLT is usually no problem, it's more expensive to get hold of pre-ww2 silver coins from Albania, Danzig etc. But how many countries are there that never issued any silver coins at all?

addrr

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Posted: 22 Apr 2016, 18:48 #

Hello all,

I was on vacation this week in Barcelona, and I took the opportunity to get 2 other "countries" in my collection :

1 and 2 Pesetas Euzkadi (Spain - Civil War) :
https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces4210.html
https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces11801.html

Cornado - Alfonso XI 1st portrait
https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces86487.html

324 Countries !

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muzz0000

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Posted: 22 Apr 2016, 23:38 #

Quote: "addrr Very nice-- I am jealous of you European guys- I have to hop on a plane or boat to go to another country and very expensive"Hello all,

I was on vacation this week in Barcelona, and I took the opportunity to get 2 other "countries" in my collection :

1 and 2 Pesetas Euzkadi (Spain - Civil War) :
https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces4210.html
https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces11801.html

Cornado - Alfonso XI 1st portrait
https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces86487.html

324 Countries !

addrr

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Posted: 23 Apr 2016, 11:44 #

Hello , you're right to be jealous of us. It is much easier for us to go " to the source" to find what we seek . And everything is close! It is not for nothing that Europe is nicknamed " the old continent " ( A majority of countries we collect is of European origin )

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loran34

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Posted: 23 Apr 2016, 19:13 #

328. Benin

https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces55321.html

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Posted: 23 Apr 2016, 19:53 #

Quote: "Hamletmaschine"

Quote: "chomp-master"

Quote: "loruca"

Quote: "Hamletmaschine"Would it be possible to reach 300 countries if you only collect silver? I think I'm at 76 countries right now, and could easily reach 100 if I spent some more money, but 300?
DO you guys think it is possible? I have over 250 countries, but only put my silver and gold into numista and those only add to 336 coins and 51 countries...

I think it is, but I think it'll be really expensive between NCLTs, Antique & Medievals,...
Modern NCLT is usually no problem, it's more expensive to get hold of pre-ww2 silver coins from Albania, Danzig etc. But how many countries are there that never issued any silver coins at all?

Most of the old countries issued at least some circulating silver (though much of it would be quite rare and expensive). Most of the modern countries issued at least some silver NCLT (though, again, in many cases it is quite rare and expensive, and it might be hard to distinguish authentic NCLT from fantasy issues).

The problematic countries (that didn't make any silver) would mostly be those that existed briefly in the 20th century; there shouldn't be too many of those to make a 300 country set impossible in theory. (Though, as already mentioned, it would be extremely hard and expensive in practice!) I didn't check the entire list, but Bohemia and Moravia is the first such example alphabetically.

Incidentally, I just reached 100 countries in the entered part of my collection (though I mainly collect very cheap coins, so I have very little silver).

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Posted: 23 Apr 2016, 23:14 #

323. Moldavia & Wallachia (no fantasy or NCLT coins in this count)

muzz0000

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Posted: 25 Apr 2016, 06:40 #

well done- i have about 5-6 to replace to have a pure 300 collection (no tokens, NCLT,or fantasy coins) Does anyone want to trade Fantasy /NCLT coins against countries i need---

I have to quit

Belarus km298
nuie x3 5 dollars
Tokelae $1 coin
St helena km9

in exchange for countries i do not have

can the referee for the Pacific islands check status of TOKELAE 1 dollar coins, i am sure they are only NCLT

muzz0000

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Posted: 25 Apr 2016, 08:41 #

just grabbed nice LIvonia coin off ebay double whammy (new country and 1 more silver) 302 in country collection and 399 in silver for less than $6.00 us inc postage-- I am happy ----------any more affordable countries I am missing??????

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Posted: 25 Apr 2016, 20:54 #

Quote: "muzz0000"any more affordable countries I am missing??????

Livonia isn't an affordable country

Please send us the link !

You might be interested by these easy to catch countries:

Islamic states (Muwahhid Almohade Dynasty)
Lorraine
Mexico - Revolutionary (ask Erdvilla

)
Ruanda-Burundi
Spanish Netherlands
Yemen - People's Democratic Republic
Yemenite states

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chomp-master

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Posted: 25 Apr 2016, 20:57 #

You're right, Lorraine is quite easy to catch, particularly billon coinage (billon = low silver amount)

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Posted: 25 Apr 2016, 22:49 #

324. India - Mughal

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Posted: 25 Apr 2016, 22:50 #

Quote: "SRV5490"324. India - Mughal

Just being curious - how do you do that? Getting new country every two days?

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Posted: 26 Apr 2016, 02:33 #

Quote: "Frenchlover"

Quote: "muzz0000"any more affordable countries I am missing??????

Livonia isn't an affordable country
Please send us the link !

You might be interested by these easy to catch countries:

Islamic states (Muwahhid Almohade Dynasty)
Lorraine
Mexico - Revolutionary (ask Erdvilla )
Ruanda-Burundi
Spanish Netherlands
Yemen - People's Democratic Republic
Yemenite states

Gee I hope I got it right--------------http://www.ebay.com/itm/262387437131?_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT

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Posted: 26 Apr 2016, 02:57 #

Quote: "muzz0000"

Quote: "Frenchlover"

Quote: "muzz0000"any more affordable countries I am missing??????

Livonia isn't an affordable country
Please send us the link !

You might be interested by these easy to catch countries:

Islamic states (Muwahhid Almohade Dynasty)
Lorraine
Mexico - Revolutionary (ask Erdvilla )
Ruanda-Burundi
Spanish Netherlands
Yemen - People's Democratic Republic
Yemenite states

Gee I hope I got it right--------------http://www.ebay.com/itm/262387437131?_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT

As you're using ebay.com, try this one from Lorraine as Frenchlover suggested: http://www.ebay.com/itm/France-Lorraine-15-XV-deniers-en-argent-Leopold-Ier-1690-1729-/351712073122?hash=item51e3ac55a2:g:ZAMAAOSwXj5XFnLl

If he sends to Australia, he may do the same to NZ, that's close enough.

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SRV5490

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Posted: 26 Apr 2016, 04:00 #

Quote: "Jarcek"

Quote: "SRV5490"324. India - Mughal
Just being curious - how do you do that? Getting new country every two days?

I usually have 10 or more winning bids per week on eBay and these new countries are part of the process. Things will be slowing down as the coins are starting to get more expensive. I won't add the NCLT or fantasy issuing countries to my total. As of today I have only 49 or so countries that I will seek and half of them are considered ancient.

muzz0000

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Posted: 26 Apr 2016, 04:48 #

Quote: "chomp-master Thanks guys- have bid on that Lorraine coin- 5.50 euro was next bid"

Quote: "muzz0000"

Quote: "Frenchlover"

Quote: "muzz0000"any more affordable countries I am missing??????

Livonia isn't an affordable country
Please send us the link !

You might be interested by these easy to catch countries:

Islamic states (Muwahhid Almohade Dynasty)
Lorraine
Mexico - Revolutionary (ask Erdvilla )
Ruanda-Burundi
Spanish Netherlands
Yemen - People's Democratic Republic
Yemenite states

Gee I hope I got it right--------------http://www.ebay.com/itm/262387437131?_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT

As you're using ebay.com, try this one from Lorraine as Frenchlover suggested: http://www.ebay.com/itm/France-Lorraine-15-XV-deniers-en-argent-Leopold-Ier-1690-1729-/351712073122?hash=item51e3ac55a2:g:ZAMAAOSwXj5XFnLl

If he sends to Australia, he may do the same to NZ, that's close enough.

muzz0000

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Posted: 26 Apr 2016, 22:34 #

won the Lorraine coin-just waiting for price of postagen -Thanks for your help guys - is this km74 and WHAT GRADE do you consider- I thought maybe F because great detail but chunks missing

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Posted: 26 Apr 2016, 22:45 #

This coin

Now you should get for us coins for each of your countries

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chomp-master

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Posted: 26 Apr 2016, 22:50 #

I think F is a maximum you can consider for this.

Congratulations for your 1st Lorraine coin. Particularly knowing this coin was made during the de jure independance period of Lorraine.

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muzz0000

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Posted: 26 Apr 2016, 23:08 #

Quote: "Frenchlover not silver--------------- dissapointing"Ar

Murray

chomp-master

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Posted: 26 Apr 2016, 23:21 #

It contains silver, but a low amount (in that case: 1/6th), that's why we name this Billon

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muzz0000

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Posted: 27 Apr 2016, 02:36 #

Quote: "Frenchlover"This coin

Now you should get for us coins for each of your countries

no I will leave to the europe guys to play with there fantasy coins- we actually do have one here in NZ called Riviera that has produced coins and banknotes- and I do not have any

Want my collection to be pure

muzz0000

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Posted: 27 Apr 2016, 02:37 #

so are all silver coins of less than 50% Billion

chomp-master

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Posted: 27 Apr 2016, 08:02 #

There is no real limit to say when a coin with few silver becomes billon. For me, it would be like you, aka. less than a half. But some others may say less.

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Frenchlover Catalogue referee

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Posted: 27 Apr 2016, 08:26 #

Each gets its own milestones ... no more white spots on board

Referee of south atlantic islands

Andy289

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Posted: 27 Apr 2016, 09:55 #

Northern Mariana and Micronesia seems to be grayed.

Jarcek Numista team

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Posted: 27 Apr 2016, 10:12 #

Just an announcement: Nepal (Ancient) showed up. We are still dealing with it. Will answer the question whether it stays or not in the future.

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chomp-master

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Posted: 27 Apr 2016, 11:04 #

Maybe both Nepal and India (ancient) referees had a talk to split Nepal coinage from India. Even no news, I'm just making this supposition.

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Frenchlover Catalogue referee

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Posted: 27 Apr 2016, 13:27 #

Quote: "Andy289"Northern Mariana and Micronesia seems to be grayed.

you've got very sharp eyes

These two nations have been recently tokenized

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chomp-master

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Posted: 27 Apr 2016, 13:36 #

If you really want to have them colourized, ask Xavier to merge these territories as part of USA, since its tokenization removed the territories from the catalog, unless they would come back as not simple tokens.

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muzz0000

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Posted: 28 Apr 2016, 06:16 #

Quote: "Frenchlover story of my life- won a LIvonia on ebay this morning and received a job lot containing over 20 this afternoon-- so far several km9 and km2 and alot to investigate!!! work work work"

Quote: "muzz0000"any more affordable countries I am missing??????

Livonia isn't an affordable country
Please send us the link !

You might be interested by these easy to catch countries:

Islamic states (Muwahhid Almohade Dynasty)
Lorraine
Mexico - Revolutionary (ask Erdvilla )
Ruanda-Burundi
Spanish Netherlands
Yemen - People's Democratic Republic
Yemenite states

Frenchlover Catalogue referee

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Posted: 1 May 2016, 12:30 #

And now, we welcome our first African member

, numis4.
Who is living in a beautiful Algerian coastal city full of history and art, mixing Berber, Almohad, Spanish, French and Arabic influences.

And what was new on April ?

Creation of ** Exonumia **

eug got Numidia

jadejacka got Nepal (ancient)

a new country!

disappearance of Northern Mariana Islands

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eug

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Posted: 2 May 2016, 18:37 #

I just got my coin from Hispania (Ancient) validated, so another of the "black" countries is gone.

addrr

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Posts: 436

Posted: 3 May 2016, 17:22 #

Good Game !

For me 3 new countries :

2 Pounds - Elizabeth II First Commemorative - British Indian Ocean Territory :
https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces13470.html

200 Francs Acanthopholis - Bénin :
https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces51942.html

1 Kreuzer - Johann Ernst von Thun - Austrian states (Salzburg) :
https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces24731.html

326 countries

- Adrien - Membre du "300 countries club"
Mes Billets à échanger

loran34

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Posted: 8 May 2016, 15:09 #

329. Order of Malta:

https://fr.numista.com/catalogue/pieces23771.html

Engage le jeu que je le gagne.
Visitez mon site:
http://monnaiesdumonde.jimdo.com/

addrr

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Posts: 436

Posted: 9 May 2016, 13:44 #

Nice Laurent :D

- Adrien - Membre du "300 countries club"
Mes Billets à échanger

addrr

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Posted: 12 May 2016, 20:55 #

For me 3 new other countries !

1 Shilling - George V - New Guinea
https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces13418.html

A big, big, big thank you to muzz0000, my new friend from New-Zealand, who send me this coin.

2 Lepta - Ionian Islands
https://fr.numista.com/catalogue/pieces5456.html

2 Pounds - Elizabeth II Reign; Silver Proof Issue - Alderney
https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces60591.html

329 countries

- Adrien - Membre du "300 countries club"
Mes Billets à échanger

jelle

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Posted: 12 May 2016, 21:49 #

Maybe the 300 country club members should get a badge on their profile :p, if they proof they have 300 countrys

Pleae check my own shop:

https://www.lastdodo.nl/nl/shops/Jelle097

World wide shipping for the real shipping price!

007mat

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Posts: 946

Posted: 16 May 2016, 12:30 #

3 new countries for me : 302 -> 305

303 - Crimea

304 - China - Japanese puppet states (Manchoukuo)

305 - French Guiana

312 pays dans ma collection
Billets à l'échange sur colnect

SRV5490

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Posted: 17 May 2016, 01:11 #

Country #325. German New Guinea (two coins, a 2 and a 5 mark coin).

addrr

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Posted: 23 May 2016, 21:57 #

Quote: "jelle"Maybe the 300 country club members should get a badge on their profile :p, if they proof they have 300 countrys

Very good idea !

Nice SRV5490, I'm jealous !

2 new countries :

20 Para - Husayn - Hejaz :
https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces14209.html

1 Dollar - Elizabeth II Sopwith Camel & Supermarine Spitfire - Nauru
https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces70234.html

Akce - Mengli I Giray Crimean Khanate - Crimea
https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces80827.html

Thank you 007mat for your help to find this coin

332 countries

- Adrien - Membre du "300 countries club"
Mes Billets à échanger

SRV5490

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Posted: 25 May 2016, 04:21 #

Quote: "jelle"Maybe the 300 country club members should get a badge on their profile :p, if they proof they have 300 countrys

I'm at a loss, how would anyone actually prove what they have? Whether it be 300 countries, 10,000 coins, 300 silver coins. Photos would not prove anything, they can be faked along with the catalog entries. I'm sure that most people on this site report what they have because they are honest people. Besides, why does anyone really care what someone else has.

muzz0000

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Posts: 836

Posted: 25 May 2016, 04:52 #

Quote: "SRV5490"

Quote: "jelle"Maybe the 300 country club members should get a badge on their profile :p, if they proof they have 300 countrys
I'm at a loss, how would anyone actually prove what they have? Whether it be 300 countries, 10,000 coins, 300 silver coins. Photos would not prove anything, they can be faked along with the catalog entries. I'm sure that most people on this site report what they have because they are honest people. Besides, why does anyone really care what someone else has.

Because it makes life interesting setting yourself goals i.e 300 country club- 400 silver club-300 trades ( this can be proved by checking profile)) - maybe we should check with members partners, they will always complain about how much we are spending
I have been lucky as being only one of a handful of traders from NZ, many people have traded and want to trade with me---and our standard postage is so cheap- less than $2.00 us for 200gms anywhere So i have built up a very nice world wide collection for very little outlay- made alot of friends and a couple that are not i guess---just a whole lot of fun

SRV5490

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Posted: 25 May 2016, 05:01 #

Quote: "muzz0000"

Quote: "SRV5490"

Quote: "jelle"Maybe the 300 country club members should get a badge on their profile :p, if they proof they have 300 countrys
I'm at a loss, how would anyone actually prove what they have? Whether it be 300 countries, 10,000 coins, 300 silver coins. Photos would not prove anything, they can be faked along with the catalog entries. I'm sure that most people on this site report what they have because they are honest people. Besides, why does anyone really care what someone else has.

Because it makes life interesting setting yourself goals i.e 300 country club- 400 silver club-300 trades ( this can be proved by checking profile)) - maybe we should check with members partners, they will always complain about how much we are spending
I have been lucky as being only one of a handful of traders from NZ, many people have traded and want to trade with me---and our standard postage is so cheap- less than $2.00 us for 200gms anywhere So i have built up a very nice world wide collection for very little outlay- made alot of friends and a couple that are not i guess---just a whole lot of fun

What I meant about "why does anyone care" did not mean one's self but why would someone else care what you have and why would they want proof of a claim. Your profile does not actually prove anything, we take you at your word.

muzz0000

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Posted: 25 May 2016, 05:05 #

Quote: "SRV5490"

Quote: "muzz0000 messed up badly cutting and pasting"

Quote: "SRV5490"

Quote: "jelle"Maybe the 300 country club members should get a badge on their profile :p, if they proof they have 300 countrys
I'm at a loss, how would anyone actually prove what they have? Whether it be 300 countries, 10,000 coins, 300 silver coins. Photos would not prove anything, they can be faked along with the catalog entries. I'm sure that most people on this site report what they have because they are honest people. Besides, why does anyone really care what someone else has.

Because it makes life interesting setting yourself goals i.e 300 country club- 400 silver club-300 trades ( this can be proved by checking profile)) - maybe we should check with members partners, they will always complain about how much we are spending
I have been lucky as being only one of a handful of traders from NZ, many people have traded and want to trade with me---and our standard postage is so cheap- less than $2.00 us for 200gms anywhere So i have built up a very nice world wide collection for very little outlay- made alot of friends and a couple that are not i guess---just a whole lot of fun

SRV5490

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Posts: 827

Posted: 25 May 2016, 05:14 #

Quote: "muzz0000"

Quote: "SRV5490"

Quote: "muzz0000 messed up badly cutting and pasting"

Quote: "SRV5490"

Quote: "jelle"Maybe the 300 country club members should get a badge on their profile :p, if they proof they have 300 countrys
I'm at a loss, how would anyone actually prove what they have? Whether it be 300 countries, 10,000 coins, 300 silver coins. Photos would not prove anything, they can be faked along with the catalog entries. I'm sure that most people on this site report what they have because they are honest people. Besides, why does anyone really care what someone else has.

Because it makes life interesting setting yourself goals i.e 300 country club- 400 silver club-300 trades ( this can be proved by checking profile)) - maybe we should check with members partners, they will always complain about how much we are spending
I have been lucky as being only one of a handful of traders from NZ, many people have traded and want to trade with me---and our standard postage is so cheap- less than $2.00 us for 200gms anywhere So i have built up a very nice world wide collection for very little outlay- made alot of friends and a couple that are not i guess---just a whole lot of fun

I repeat, how would anyone actually prove what they have? Your profile is not proof of anything.

neilithic

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Posted: 25 May 2016, 05:24 #

Why would they need to prove what they have? The club was set up for fun and as a place for people with similar goals to chat and compare notes. There's no financial or material benefit to being a member, there's no increase in power or prestige by being a member. Why would someone lie to be included, necessitating the need to prove that they have 300 countries?

SRV5490

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Posted: 25 May 2016, 05:32 #

Thanks neilithic, that's pretty much what I thought I was trying to get across but I guess I messed up. Crossing borders can be tough....or interesting.

neilithic

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Posted: 25 May 2016, 05:36 #

It might actually be a pretty cool idea to have a section on your profile where you can add images of badges to show what you collect and to mark when you pass milestones e.g. 50 countries, 100 countries, 200 countries, 300 countries, 1000 coins, 2500 coins, 5000 coins, 7500 coins, African coin collector, British coin collector, Euro coin collector, USA coin collector, etc

SRV5490

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Posted: 25 May 2016, 05:49 #

That would be great. Over 40 years ago I belonged to a couple of SWLing or DXing clubs (shortwave listening or long distance listening) using a shortwave/AM communications receiver. They would have achievment awards for the number of countries, stations, countries within a certain continent, etc. It made the hobby a lot of fun.

muzz0000

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Posted: 25 May 2016, 06:12 #

Quote: "SRV5490"That would be great. Over 40 years ago I belonged to a couple of SWLing or DXing clubs (shortwave listening or long distance listening) using a shortwave/AM communications receiver. They would have achievment awards for the number of countries, stations, countries within a certain continent, etc. It made the hobby a lot of fun.

I think the numista club idea would be the same. Make it all a lot of fun establish goals.recognise achievements. And build up trust between traders

geraltttt82 Catalogue referee

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Posted: 26 May 2016, 09:46 #