300 countries club, the blog (outdated) [solved]

Did we lost a country again last week? I have the feeling(not 100% sure) that I went back from 321 to 320 countries?

Quote: "Myeackle"​
​2011 Benin 100 Franca # 1074 Of 2500
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​It smells good

Quote: "mic-w-nl"​Did we lost a country again last week? I have the feeling(not 100% sure) that I went back from 321 to 320 countries?

​Didn't notice anything yet. Maybe a coin move?

Number of countries is still the same.

Quote: "chomp-master"​

Quote: "mic-w-nl"​Did we lost a country again last week? I have the feeling(not 100% sure) that I went back from 321 to 320 countries?

​​Didn't notice anything yet. Maybe a coin move?

​is it possible when a Benin coin moved to tokens?

Probably. This would explain.

Oh yes, Benin! I found some duplicates from Exonumia there.

Are you sure this issuance to be unauthorized?

They have X references. I did not looked more deeply into the issue.

Most of the swiss shooting thalers have an x reference as well...

But those could have (at least theoretically) circulate.

True...

I just returned from 5 months on the lakeshore of Michigan's U.P. and no internet. It appears that in that time I have lost 3 countries and gained back 3.

Lost: Sharjah, 5 rupees X#1 to Exonumia (last coin I bought before I left)

Judea, 1pratah Porcius Festus to Roman Provinces

Persianate States, jital Khwarzem to Islamic states

Gained: Islamic states

1 kepand Malacca added back to Malay Penninsula

Phoenecian cities, dichalkos Arados (my submittal for a new coin was approved while I was gone)

Quote: "eug"​Lost: Sharjah, 5 rupees X#1 to Exonumia (last coin I bought before I left)
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​Judea, 1pratah Porcius Festus to Roman Provinces
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​Persianate States, jital Khwarzem to Islamic states
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​Gained: Islamic states
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​1 kepand Malacca added back to Malay Penninsula
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​Phoenecian cities, dichalkos Arados (my submittal for a new coin was approved while I was gone)
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​Sharjah: not a surprise as X# reference = Exonumia.
Judea: asked it myself as made under the name of a Roman procurator of Judea as part of the Empire.
Persianate/Islamic states: due to a merge made by simoneo.
Phoenicia: agreed and upgraded (also owning this)
Malacca: no idea

307 Livonia

308 Faroe Islands

You now have one more legitimate target - Darfur, a short-lived Sultanate.

Many fantasy coins on eBay dated 2008,
and one or two rare genuine coins like this 5 Piastres AH1311

Shouldn't we consider eBay as an open source supplier of picture for the Numista catalogue ?

Shouldn't we consider eBay as an open source supplier of picture for the Numista catalogue ? Sadly no, even though it could be tempting.

As you said, they're fantasy, mainly created due to local agitation.

Too bad we can't add it, unless they come from a seller reknown to be an authorized source elsewhere.

With all the respect I have for our honorable administrators, I just disagree.
There are multiple coin collector websites that display coins published on auctions like ebay or sixbid while publishing auction reference numbers. And that's very useful to find a picture when you are looking for a particular RIC reference.

A photo placed on these auction websites is deemed in the public domain and furthermore ebay does not protect pictures of items for sale.

Who could blame the use of these picture?
- the seller (who doesn't own the object anymore ?)
- the buyer (who didn't own this object at the time of publication on the auction website ?)
- ebay (which doesn't give a toss about ?)

I do think just adding the website reference and the auction number would protect Numista of any appeal.
until proven otherwise

I have received coins from these countries in the last week.

362. German Notgeld

363. Tannu Tuva

364. Ras Al Khaimah

365. Niger

Quote: "Frenchlover"​With all the respect I have for our honorable administrators, I just disagree.
​There are multiple coin collector websites that display coins published on auctions like ebay or sixbid while publishing auction reference numbers. And that's very useful to find a picture when you are looking for a particular RIC reference.
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​A photo placed on these auction websites is deemed in the public domain and furthermore ebay does not protect pictures of items for sale.
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​Who could blame the use of these picture?
​- the seller (who doesn't own the object anymore ?)
​- the buyer (who didn't own this object at the time of publication on the auction website ?)
​- ebay (which doesn't give a toss about ?)
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​I do think just adding the website reference and the auction number would protect Numista of any appeal.
​until proven otherwise
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​I took a look to their Terms and Conditions. Xavier would prefer not tu use it as he said us:

Quote: "Xavier"They claim they have all rights over the pictures, but I'm not sure all original owners of the pictures are really aware. I prefer not reusing those pictures, even if eBay ever agrees.
I don't like this kind of terms and conditions, so I don't want Numista benefits from them.

Already been three months since the last update.
Some new countries as Mauretania ancient, Darfur, German notgeld
and Persian satrapies owned by eug congrats!
Once again, auctionking65 got the greatest increase of the number of countries, still far from the Mexican emperor who would do well to beware of future pretenders ...

And to finish this review of these happy inhabitants of the new world,
we welcome a new member to the club: Pott
from the most fantasy country ...

I am quite curious how the new structure (which would lead to many new countries to be counted as such) will make impact here. Will you consider renaming?

imagination is limitless

310 Congo Free State

Quote: "Frenchlover"​imagination is limitless
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​I passed this card game on to my son some time ago, in the original box. We used to play this back in the early 60's.

I saw the update on the top of the thread GREAT JOB!!

I added #311
Lorraine
1727 Liard

Too bad the coin is hardly worn, but not surprising as found often in such bad condition

Quote: "chomp-master"​Too bad the coin is hardly worn, but not surprising as found often in such bad condition

​I agree it is a bummer that it's a bit worn but for $7 I figured it wouldn't hurt to add a new country and I can always upgrade it later on.

Matt

Two new countries:
Abkhazia
China (ancient)

East Timor, renamed as Timor Leste

Duplicate countries disappear:
Bourbon Island
Burma
Great Britain
Svalbard
Tanganyika

Please be informed that we partly dismantled Central Asia. This ragbag contained Ancient coinages which have been split in 2 new countries: Indo-Parthian Kingdom and Indo-Sasanian Kingdom.

Well I'm back down to 310 since my India ancient coin got combined with the states coins.

We have a newcomer - Duchy of Courland has become a country (under Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth)

We also held talks on country count future, but we haven't concluded much yet.

One of the main floating ideas though, is to make two counters. One for countries, and one for coin issuing entities. This could give us option to make your club more professional, (you really counted Seborga as a country? And not Bavaria?) while you will retain your count in coin issuing entities.

Any of the above-written ideas is subject to change.

I like the idea of being able to weed out those countries with only fantasy or non circulating coins like Niue ,Marshall islands etc

Quote: "Jarcek"​We have a newcomer - Duchy of Courland has become a country (under Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth)
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​We also held talks on country count future, but we haven't concluded much yet.
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​One of the main floating ideas though, is to make two counters. One for countries, and one for coin issuing entities. This could give us option to make your club more professional, (you really counted Seborga as a country? And not Bavaria?) while you will retain your count in coin issuing entities.
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​Any of the above-written ideas is subject to change.

​It would be a bit of a problem, though...

For countries - there are only 193 UN members (and some of them - I'm looking at you Micronesia - never made any actual coins, and/or only made really rare NCLT).
Even adding non UN members (like Vatican), partially recognized states (like Taiwan), unrecognized breakaway states (like Transnistria), ancient places (like Byzantium), currency unions (like the West African States), and some odd places like Central America and Rwanda-Burundi (and the infamous Iles de France et Bonaparte*, a country that only one Numista member has) that don't really fit well anywhere else, we might still be forced to count micronations like Seborga just to make 300 countries even mathematically possible (Erdvilla is likely to be the first to actually make it).

For coin issuing entities, to make 300, your best chance is probably to ignore anything from the last fifty years or so (except for the real easy countries like Russia) and focus on German states, Indian states, and/or assorted feudal principalities (maybe the ancient Greek cities too, but they're not very well represented on Numista). German states is probably the easiest (it might well be possible to make it to 300 from that alone - and that's not counting notgeld, which are probably even easier to get to 300).
OTOH, if you want to make it to 1000, there'd be a bit of a trade-off in that it's probably worth it to include the modern countries and the cheaper NCLT, because getting a new German or Indian state you didn't have yet becomes ever incrementally harder.

Of course neither is likely to be what is intended to happen. But if either of those scenarios happens - and I can't see why either of them wouldn't - the current 300 country club is likely to kiss itself goodbye (though in the former scenario a new 200 country club will have a very similar set of members).


One country that really shouldn't be there, though, is Mesopotamia (ancient) - only tokens listed (and most of the actual Mesopotamian coinage is rightly listed in Persian satrapies).

*) though they'd probably be joined with Iles de France et Bourbon - currently a section of Reunion - which is much more common, with two coins rated in the 80s

I am not sure I got the point. Currently, things are going in such way, that there will be actually more countries then are there now. To such extent that getting 300 countries might be actually so easy that this will become 400 country club or more.

Quote: "Jarcek"​I am not sure I got the point. Currently, things are going in such way, that there will be actually more countries then are there now. To such extent that getting 300 countries might be actually so easy that this will become 400 country club or more.

​Um, this is basically my second scenario (though I expect a much higher number than 400).

Me too. You can anticipate quite a surge once Xavier creates option to have more than two level country list. Also, this will probably go hand in hand with issuing new counters.

Quote: "January First-of-May"​One country that really shouldn't be there, though, is Mesopotamia (ancient) - only tokens listed (and most of the actual Mesopotamian coinage is rightly listed in Persian satrapies).

​Neo-Babylonian Empire = the last Mesopotamian nation as well.

I believe that my additions to the club are nearly at an end for a while. I have 382 countries now. I have coins coming from the Cocos (Keeling) Islands, India (Ancient) and Order of Malta. I am awaiting the pending verification of Hunnic Empire and Celtic Danube. I will probably wait until the new structure of countries and coin issuing entities becomes clearer before I buy anymore coins for my OFEC collection.

Most of us will lose countries to coin issuing entities such as the Micronations, Non UN States and other changes. There will, however, be a great opportunity as new countries (Jarcek est. 300+) are added.

Frenchlover, do you plan on continuing the 300 or possibly the 400 club?

Quote: "eug"​I believe that my additions to the club are nearly at an end for a while. I have 382 countries now. I have coins coming from the Cocos (Keeling) Islands, India (Ancient) and Order of Malta. I am awaiting the pending verification of Hunnic Empire and Celtic Danube. I will probably wait until the new structure of countries and coin issuing entities becomes clearer before I buy anymore coins for my OFEC collection.
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​Most of us will lose countries to coin issuing entities such as the Micronations, Non UN States and other changes. There will, however, be a great opportunity as new countries (Jarcek est. 300+) are added.
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​Frenchlover, do you plan on continuing the 300 or possibly the 400 club?
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​From my point of view, it wont be a lost at all as the goal is to have all country listed? in your case or many others... those "miss" countries will turn into a highly valuable swap coin, unless you will like to keep 2 or more coins per country...

Quote: "eug"​
​Frenchlover, do you plan on continuing the 300 or possibly the 400 club?
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​The goal of the club is to get an evaluation of the degree of difficulty to obtain certain countries, as long as some collectors see an interest, the concept of the club can evolve. At the moment, there are only minor changes.

I still have an interest and hope that you continue the club. I appreciate the work that you do to maintain it.

Hi,
This is my last country:
Frise:
But I don't fund it exactly on Numista

Prepare your self - I am asking to add Ancient Greek Massalia and Papal State Avignon. 2 more rare countries :)

Quote: "Frenchlover"​Lets see the list of unusual countries.
​No member of the "300 countries club" gets coins from countries in black
​Then in decreasing order of difficulty, colors switch down to the purple haze.
​Only one member doesn't own a purple country, so, they are easier to catch
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​Update October 24th
​407 countries ( 9 with no collector, 149 with at least one collector, 249 in common )
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​24 members
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​From July 29th to Oct. 24th:
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​309 -> 312 - 007mat (France)
​342 -> 343 - addrr (France)
​317 -> 318 - Al Louarn (Brittany)
​305 -> 314 - alamir (Germany)
​315 -> 327 - auctionking65 (USA)
​305 -> 314 - billymac11 (USA)
​312 - Chasinva69 (USA)
​387 - Erdvilla (Mexico)
​361 -> 369 - eug (USA)
​332 ->338 - Frenchlover (France)
​360 -> 361 - geraltttt82 (Poland)
​322 - jadejackal (USA)
​314 -> 315 - jelle (The Netherlands)
​334 -> 335 - loran34 (France)
​313 -> 323 - mic-w-nl (The Netherlands)
​304 -> 305 - muzz0000 (New Zealand)
​300 -> 310 - Myeackle (USA)
​358 -> 359 - NIGLO (France)
​300 - numis4 (Algeria)
​330 -> 331 - Numismaticroy (UK)
​336 - Pott (USA)
​328 -> 330 - SRV5490 (USA)
​319 -> 320 - sujit_kumar (USA)
​338 - Yorkie (UK)
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​En ce 11 Décembre 2016 Redgie est le:
Premier Canadien à faire partie du ``300 countries club``.
Premier membre à faire partie du ``300 countries club`` dans une période de moins d’un an.

Hey !
Nice ! welcome
When we see the Jacques Cartier bridge from your Harbour beach, we might think you're living in the tropics, uh .. maybe in other seasons.

Ah ... if there were not all these damned squirrels all around ...

Quote: "Frenchlover"​Hey !
​Nice ! welcome
​When we see the Jacques Cartier bridge from your Harbour beach, we might think you're living in the tropics, uh .. maybe in other seasons.
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​Ah ... if there were not all these damned squirrels all around ...
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​lol, that's a very nice picture of somethjng that doesn't look so nice , even in summer. I was in Montreal this August and my friend and I were wondering who's ever use something that looked so industrial. Sure enough , no one was even there lol

Quote: "Frenchlover"​Hey !
​Nice ! welcome
​When we see the Jacques Cartier bridge from your Harbour beach, we might think you're living in the tropics, uh .. maybe in other seasons.
​
​Ah ... if there were not all these damned squirrels all around ...
​

​Merci beaucoup amoureux français.
Redgie amoureux Québecois

Just received country #331, a U.S. Pre-Federal 1788 Connecticut copper.

Quote: "Myeackle"​I was so close that that this afternoon I went for a bit of a shopping spree on eBay and finally got my 300 Countries.
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​Congradulations
Join the club, i am at 304 countries today and after less than one year as member, i started with Canadian and American coins only.
Redgie

My 361 country:
Belgium Feudal

Quote: "Frenchlover"​Hey Well done !
​ Welcome to the new blissful member from the sunshine, shuttle, alligator, swing state
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​Merci beaucoup.

Quote: "NIGLO"​My 361 country:
​Belgium Feudal
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​BRAVO

Merci, I am waiting a new country Carthage

My Chismas's gift:
https://fr.numista.com/vous/vos_pieces.php?pays=carthage
https://fr.numista.com/catalogue/pieces77686.html

Congradulations to you, i am at 328 countries today, (in less than one year), i will have to improve that to reach you. Am i the first Canadian to join your 300 countries club ?
Merry Christmas and Happy New Year to all members.

Quote: "NIGLO"​My Chismas's gift:
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"Iles de France et Bonaparte"

​Bravo
It deserves to open a good bottle of Bourbon whiskey

Thank's, but it was very difficult, and I was very lucky!!!

WOW, that is an awesome acquisition. Congratulations. That is one country that is on my "Probably never going to get it" list.

Thank's, I am very happy with my last acquisitions:
Frise, Carthage, Belgique Féodale et Iles Bourbon et Bonaparte.
But, many time, perseverence,luck and a little money!!!
I am not still at 391 countries

Watch your Spanish states coin, it's currently downsizing.
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French-lover,

Can you give us any more info on what is going to happen to Spanish states and when?

I bet the referee considers the centralized state of Spain is achieved at the end of the Reconquista.

This past month I have added Indo-Parthian, Indo-Sasanian, Cocos (Keeling) Islands, Burgundian Netherlands, Hunnic Empire, and Celtic Danube to my collection. I now have 391 countries.

Congradulations eug's you are the top champion.
My first year gift is 330 countries, target realise.
Today i am at 346 countries.
20 Janvier 2017
My target was 350 countries and i am proud after 13 months to realise that target.
Now i am going to make and other project with other target.
Redgie

Quote: "eug"​French-lover,
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​Can you give us any more info on what is going to happen to Spanish states and when?

​I recovered Spanish States but with a much older coin

Dinero. ALFONSO I DE ARAGÓN. TOLEDO.
Obv: ANFVS REX. Efigie a izquierda
Rev.: TOLLETA. Cruz patada con estrellas en 1er y 4º espacios. Ve. (Pequeña grieta)

J'ai certainement oublié quelqu'un, inscrivez-vous.
Get your name there if you are close to this target.

TARGET :
292 Countries(Pays)

Eug : 274 Countries(Pays)
Colorado Springs/ co, United States (view)
LanguagesEnglish
Member since27-Mar-2015
Collection721 coins • 274 countries • 407 issuers (view)

Erdvilla : 270 Countries(Pays)
Mexico (view)
LanguagesEnglish Spanish Latin
Member since10-Oct-2013
Collection8482 coins • 270 countries • 404 issuers

Redgie : 261 Countries(Pays)
St-Hubert, Longueuil,P.Q., Canada (voir)
Langues parléesfrançais anglais
Membre depuis05-01-2016
Collection2792 pièces • 261 pays • 360 émetteurs (voir)

geraltttt82 : 260 Countries(Pays)

Torun, Pologne (voir)
Langues parléesanglais polonais
Membre depuis02-09-2015
Collection4576 pièces • 260 pays • 415 émetteurs (voir)

Numista says I currently have 262 countries, but this includes a couple dozen questionable countries that issue only NCLT coins (such as British Antarctic Territory, American Samoa, etc.).

Has this thread been replaced by a newer version?

TARGET :
292 Countries(Pays)

Eug : 274 Countries(Pays)
Colorado Springs/ co, United States (view)
LanguagesEnglish
Member since27-Mar-2015
Collection721 coins • 274 countries • 407 issuers (view)

Erdvilla : 270 Countries(Pays)
Mexico (view)
LanguagesEnglish Spanish Latin
Member since10-Oct-2013
Collection8482 coins • 270 countries • 404 issuers

phfoticus's : 262 Countries(Pays)
PlaceUpstate NY, United States (view)
LanguagesEnglish
Member since26-May-2017
Collection1143 coins • 262 countries • 428 issuers (view)

Redgie : 261 Countries(Pays)

St-Hubert, Longueuil,P.Q., Canada (voir)
Langues parléesfrançais anglais
Membre depuis05-01-2016
Collection2792 pièces • 261 pays • 360 émetteurs (voir)

geraltttt82: 260 Countries(Pays)

Torun, Pologne (voir)
Langues parléesanglais polonais
Membre depuis02-09-2015
Collection4576 pièces • 260 pays • 415 émetteurs (voir)

Quote: "phfoticus"​Numista says I currently have 262 countries, but this includes a couple dozen questionable countries that issue only NCLT coins (such as British Antarctic Territory, American Samoa, etc.).
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​Has this thread been replaced by a newer version?

I think there is the other thread which also hasn't been updated in awhile.

On a side note, I recently have hit 300 coins and currently sit at 303.

Ghawk97's profile
PlaceCleveland, Ohio, United States (view)
Languages English Dutch
Member since27-Aug-2013
Collection1201 coins • 229 countries • 303 issuers (view)

J'ai certainement oublié quelqu'un, inscrivez-vous.
Get your name there, if you are close to this target.

MINIMUM: 250 TO 292

TARGET :
292 Countries(Pays)

eug : 274 Countries(Pays)

PlaceColorado Springs/ co, United States (view)
LanguagesEnglish
Member since27-Mar-2015
Collection721 coins • 274 countries • 407 issuers (view)

Erdvilla : 270 Countries(Pays)

PlaceMexico (view)
LanguagesEnglish Spanish Latin
Member since10-Oct-2013
Collection8482 coins • 270 countries • 404 issuers

phfoticus's : 262 Countries(Pays)

PlaceUpstate NY, United States (view)
LanguagesEnglish
Member since26-May-2017
Collection1143 coins • 262 countries • 428 issuers (view)

Redgie : 261 Countries(Pays)

PlaceSt-Hubert, Longueuil,P.Q., Canada (voir)
Langues parléesfrançais anglais
Membre depuis05-01-2016
Collection2792 pièces • 261 pays • 360 émetteurs (voir)

geraltttt82 : 260 Countries(Pays)

PlaceTorun, Pologne (voir)
Langues parléesanglais polonais
Membre depuis02-09-2015
Collection4576 pièces • 260 pays • 415 émetteurs (voir)

I wonder if this should be in a new (shorter) thread, perhaps something like

"The (tentative) 250-country club"

Cette exercise bénévole nous permettra peut-être de connaître quels sont les membres qui possèdent le plus grand nombre de pays.
This voluntary exercise may allow us to know which members have the greatest number of countries.

This discussion is closed.
Its successor is moribund

J'ai certainement oublié quelqu'un, inscrivez-vous.
Get your name there, if you are close to this target.
MINIMUM: 260
TARGET : 292 Countries(Pays)
alema66: 275 Countries(Pays)
PLACE: Montevideo, Uruguay
Collection: 9689 pièces • 275 pays • 467 émetteurs
eug : 274 Countries(Pays)
Place: Colorado Springs/ co, United States
Collection: 721 coins • 274 countries • 407 issuers
Erdvilla : 270 Countries(Pays)
Place: Mexico (view)
Collection: 8482 coins • 270 countries • 404 issuers
phfoticus's : 262 Countries(Pays)
Place: Upstate NY, United States (view)
Collection: 1143 coins • 262 countries • 428 issuers
Redgie : 261 Countries(Pays)
Place: St-Hubert, Longueuil,P.Q., Canada (voir)
Collection: 2792 pièces • 261 pays • 360 émetteurs
geraltttt82 : 260 Countries(Pays)
Place: Torun, Pologne (voir)
Collection: 4576 pièces • 260 pays • 415 émetteurs

Shouldn't this discussion be moved over to it's own (new) thread?

Would you Show me how to do it please.

I've never started a thread myself, but it looks like you'd go back to the main page for the "Free discussion" forum, and press the "New Topic" button (towards the top left).

It looks like you'd need to enter something like "Working towards a 250-country club" or something like that in the subject box.

I suppose you'd have to cut and paste the existing text from this thread to the message box in the new thread.

There was a new topic for 2017 here
But the switch from "countries" to "issuers" made this discussion useless. What community of interest can we find between a collector who gets more than two hundred German states and another who tries to get a coin from every country in the world? Moreover, there were several criticisms about this holy quest for more and more expensive countries, and when you start to have more than 300 countries, you start to look for countries that are not real issuers of coins like certain pacific islands. The 300 countries club was fun but I think it's closed

109 878 pièces • 292 pays • 1140 émetteurs
Since the recent changes in NUMISTA the maximum is 292 Countries
260 Club
J'ai certainement oublié quelqu'un, inscrivez-vous.
Get your name there, if you are close to this target.

MINIMUM: 260
TARGET : 292 Countries(Pays)

alema66: 275
PLACE: Montevideo, Uruguay
Collection: 9689 pièces • 275 pays • 467 émetteurs
eug : 274
Place: Colorado Springs/ co, United States (view)
Collection: 721 coins • 274 countries • 407 issuers
Erdvilla : 270
Place: Mexico (view)
Collection: 8482 coins • 270 countries • 404 issuers
phfoticus's : 262
Place: Upstate NY, United States (view)
Collection: 1143 coins • 262 countries • 428 issuers
Redgie : 262
Place: St-Hubert, Longueuil,P.Q., Canada (voir)
2798 coins • 262 countries • 362 issuers (view)
geraltttt82 : 260
Place: Torun, Pologne (voir)
Collection: 4576 pièces • 260 pays • 415 émetteurs

Quote: "Redgie"​109 878 pièces • 292 pays • 1140 émetteurs
​Since the recent changes in NUMISTA the maximum is 292 Countries

​lol, then i guess this thread is officially outdated..