1953 different dates [solved]

The year 1953 seems has 2 different spaces between 5 and 3

closer together:

and furter apart:

rest looks the same

Sympathetic observation, the mother die probably had “195” on it and whenever a child die needed to be made, the last number was punched in by hand, hence the distance. On American coins, such distance “problems” are not taken into consideration for variants, you should see the crazy amount of different placements of their mint marks!

About error coins from the US: https://coins.thefuntimesguide.com/rare-error-pennies-list/

Is it mentioned in your catalog? 

Here is mine, near 3?

I was wrong, I just found one of my old documentations:

which has been accepted here: N#3137

Shall I document it for you?

Maybe your first assumption is correct. Three with three different spacing and distance from the shield.

The three coins are not well aligned. Try to get them into a proper military order…..😑

Haha…I thought I did!  But I agree, it can be deceiving if not the exact same scale and not lined up exactly. I'll try a different approach.

OK, maybe just two different spacings.

Sjoelund

Is it mentioned in your catalog? 

Not mentioned in any catalog, something i found on some old forums and decided to look at.

while looking at it, the mintmark on reverse also very slightly changed position.

am new to referee so wanted to discuss if its in the scope of numista or not.

As I mentioned earlier, mint mark positions is also a gray zone, since they were often hand stamped, but I think there is an example of a French coin with a “C” mint mark, which got its own line. I'll take a look and see if I can find it.

As I mentioned earlier, mint mark positions is also a gray zone, since they were often hand stamped, but I think there is an example of a French coin with a “C” mint mark, which got its own line. I'll take a look and see if I can find it.

found it:

So in some cases it's accepted, I suppose it depends on the specific country catalogs ☺️

Since the Norway coins in the time period were all made by the same mint I thought it would make sense to add the mint mark to the master die (unlike the US where dies where shipped out the the three main mints that added their particular letter to them) but then found this:

N#298

I am wrong, it didn't get its own year line!

I am thinking should it at least be mentioned in the comments like most similar variants are?

I agree with you.

Here as well (not from me)

N#740

and here

N#4031

Is this good enough comment or should I make it different?

In such a case you use the shortest of the red lines (same thickness, please) and copy that. Delete the red line with the longest distance and insert the copied short line, that way you easily see the difference.

If possible measure the two distances with a digital caliper, and write the found lengths in x.xx mm.

Take a look at how I did it, if you think it helps.

More like this?

that's it, do you have a caliper?

Yes, but dont know how to properly messure this.

Mine is 0.19 mm, let's say 0.20, so your wide one would be around 0.35 I reckon?

Elvi75

Yes, but dont know how to properly messure this.

Use a magnifying glass and slide the caliper.

You can also ask @Risirian1, how to do it with Adobe Acrobat, since I'm not good at that! He's a genius with that tool. Really.

Ha! Already on it while you were typing that!

Thanks for your proactivity😉

rsirian1

 

 

can i copy these pics and add to comments?

Yes, of course. I also measured the two that I found and got 0.24mm and 0.63mm so the same within measurement error.

thank you, should updated now.

Don't try to overkill.

When you see this picture your mind says: wow, what a big difference.

When you start measuring your ratio takes over and says: pfff, the difference is only ⅓ mm, is that worth it?

A variety must be seen by the naked eye or a magnifying glass, practically no one will use a caliper to check it. Your picture above is more than enough to show the difference. Despite the great measuring method of rsirian1 I would omit his pictures.

It's to show, that there is an OBJECTIVE difference, which is the way to prove anything?

Here another one taken into account for year lines N#516. I stop here, since it's all just to show, that the guidelines are whatever a given referee interprets🙃