Now that it seems Ben has finally the power and the will to get rid of scammers and sidetrackers; at the same time Xavier made some progress on development, and I have a meeting scheduled with him, let me summarize some suggestions to improve this site further.
It will be long and serious, please answer with caution and arguments!
1) Alternative Catalog Numbers
Besides the KM number, we shall have an alternative catalog number to help those local experts to whom the KM number is either vague or just that KM does not cover the years in the collection.(e.g. before 1600) This, I trust is an easy add-on and now that we have the referees (experts in a country) this would facilitate their jobs a lot. In addition to that, Ancient Greece and Rome could be boosted, where there is no one major overruling system, but 2 or more (e.g. RIC, SEAR at least)
2) Links on coin pages
It would be great to have the ability to link [internal] links to the actual coin pages, which could serve various purposes:
- coins in the same monetary system but different country could be linked for example these two: https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces4736.html AND https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces31958.html
- commemorative coins could be linked together and could be reached with an easy click
- slight differences could be easily described, (e.g. "like KM234[link] but without pearlring" - could be used in the observe description)
This feature would increase the wikipedia feel of easy usage. Of course, links should limit to pages ending numista.com not to outside sources...
3) Dashboard
Well, Numista uses the term dashboard for the map, however it could be extended into various statistics, which motivate people to collect or contribute. Sexy little things, which most people would love I am sure:
- A more correct map (or more versions)
- Total weight of my collection
- Metal breakdown of my collection (e.g. 34% silver, 12% bronze...) arranged in a nice diagram.
- average weight of a coin in my collection
- blabla... easily calculatable charts and statitistics, which enthuses people.
These would significantly increase Numista "user experience" and thus the Numista loyalty and contribution level. People are mostly motivated by progress, so seeing any statistics is a great motivator to grow their collection and contribution to Numista.
4) Communication and Motivation
Teammembers and referees need to get aligned more on communicating the changes and moving this Numista vision forward, so we need to work on that, but I'll cover that with Xavier, insha'Allah...
5) Strict forum moderation
I hope it is done, and I trust Ben now has the power and the means to act and guide this place to make sure it will become the number one online catalog!
Looking for your serious comments and arguments. I am always in for fun, but not on this one, please,
"5) Strict forum moderation
I hope it is done, and I trust Ben now has the power and the means to act and guide this place to make sure it will become the number one online catalog!"
I am sure you won't like this as you would be banned instantly because of your offensive words and insults.
Now I write what I wanted; thank you bam777. Imreh I like your suggestions. I still think they should move to a different forum selling and buying. And keep that in its own area.
yours daryl
100% agree with all your 5 suggestions!
2) Links were present in the very early version of Numista. I never implemented them back in the form which allows members to contribute to the catalogue, but this definitely should be done.
3) Yes, that's the role of the dashboard. Will do!
4) Still looking for your advice...
5) Hopefully this is achieved thanks to Bam. Walder Coins should join very soon. New instructions are to be very strict.
Quote: Xavier100% agree with all your 5 suggestions!
2) Links were present in the very early version of Numista. I never implemented them back in the form which allows members to contribute to the catalogue, but this definitely should be done.
3) Yes, that's the role of the dashboard. Will do!
4) Still looking for your advice...
5) Hopefully this is achieved thanks to Bam. Walder Coins should join very soon. New instructions are to be very strict.
Dear imreh
I like them all very much. It good you still care. On number 3 I would add something like a custom area. The world map and one in the area you are working on. Like say I collect world coins and the UK and its territories. You could have two or more maps on your dashboard. And click on the one you are working on.
Or I collect world coins and want to work on Africa coins this year. And a country finder. Type a countries name and have it shown where it is. Very helpful for the island countries.
On number 5 I think there should be a 24 hours cool down. If a moderator has to deal with the same person let's say 3 times in 24 hours. Ban them from the forum and PM's for 24 hours. Don't put on the forum who it is. Hopefully cooler heads will come out.
I hope this is still on topic. I would like to see Numisdoc have an area on mint marks, types, and what your countries coins look like. Go there, click on a countries name and you could see what is in their pocket. Of peolpe who live there.
yours daryl
Quote: ALLRED1950On number 5 I think there should be a 24 hours cool down. If a moderator has to deal with the same person let's say 3 times in 24 hours. Ban them from the forum and PM's for 24 hours. Don't put on the forum who it is. Hopefully cooler heads will come out.
Oh one more thing. I would like to see coin identification and valuation split in to two. Have a forum on just coin identifications.
For newbies is there any way to pair up with a Numista member? So they have someone to ask questions. Or just help using the site.
yours daryl
Map: instead of color based on the number of coins, I would like to suggest also color based on completeness (in %).
And even better(but probable harder to implement) choices to filter to coins of 20th century, or only circulation coins, or no gold, no commemoratives, no the ones I don't want, etc
Map: instead of color based on the number of coins, I would like to suggest also color based on completeness (in %).
Yes, in my personal vision that would be kind of a desired end result. Now, the problem is this a percentage of what?
#of owned types of coins / #total types of coins in a country ?
#of owned pieces of coins / #total pieces in a country? (e.g. years and mintmarks)
Even though both are probably an easy piece to program for Xavier, however these would give fake values, until we do not know the number of total types and generally the total coinage in a country. Fake values, like the Numista rarity index, which means not to much in reality.
Here is an example: there are 716 types of coins under Hungary. I have 555 different types in my collection. So my dashboard figure would be 555/716 = 77.5%. This is cool, but I know that there are approximately 2000 Hungarian coins not registered on Numista yet, so the true figure on my Hungarian collection would be closer to 555/2716 = 20%. Which is significantly different from the other one .
Still working on your suggestion, however what would be awesome is to measure Numista's level of completeness for a country. E.g. #total types on Numista / [estimated] #number of total coinage. In case of Hungary it would be around: 716 / 2800 = 25.5% If we could gather that number from referees or other sources, it would give us a true feedback on how complete Numista is, plus we could arrive to make your suggestion, mic-w-nl, feasible.
As a referee or jedi or what for Hungary, knowing that I have 75% of the job to do in front of me is quite motivating. I trust serious members will develop the same motivation, if we have a measure in front of them!
Disclaimer: the total #of Hungarian minted coin types is an estimate, but having said that, I will calculate them if I have some introvert moments (rare)
Quote: ALLRED1950On number 5 I think there should be a 24 hours cool down. If a moderator has to deal with the same person let's say 3 times in 24 hours. Ban them from the forum and PM's for 24 hours. Don't put on the forum who it is. Hopefully cooler heads will come out.
I think it is a great idea!
Ben, what do you think?
Is that implementable? I think it could make your life much easier when handling raging idiots like myself and others!
Quote: bam777Yeah! It is do-able. Should be necessary! But do-able. You can't lock PM usage but it is the Public Forum that needs protecting.
Go for it, then! Announce the new measures!
- on a personal note, I cannot commit to keep the rules all times, as certain behaviours will still drive me nuts, but I do commit not take it personally if you apply the rule to me, as long as it is consistently applied!
Quote: JedsadaSuch articles exist in the French Numisdoc.
- How to search a coin
- How to start a swap
- How to save my coins in "Your coins"
- and a lot more...
If somebody wants to translate them, he is welcome. Just send me a PM.
J.
I cannot volunteer for the translation (as my French vocabulary limits to "croissant"), but I will be happy to review, proofread and upgrade them, if needed, to make sure they are good "educational and motivational lessons"; after all, my job partially is to create courseware for training and education
6) Excel export
See further suggestions here: https://en.numista.com/forum/topic21923.html#p177219 I trust it is an issue frequently raised... and maybe an easy techy improvement, as well.
Thanks Prabhu for raising the issue, again!
7) Following people
I am not sure on this one [whether it is an easy fix or not], but for sure the greatest asset of facebook, twitter or LinkedIn is that you can identify people/companies in whose opinion you are interested in. I'd love to see that option here, as well. It is a pity that the first two people come to mind are gone voluntarily (pnightingale and radrick), but still there are a lot of lovely inputs, expert views or just fun, I would love to have an option to follow...
8) removal of old not used accounts.
People who are not active for let's say half a year, or maybe even a year, give them a reminder if they still want to use their accounts and delete after no reaction or at least make their doubles invisible.
9) improvement on start a swap by country
If I'm looking for a coin from for instances France, I have to scroll to 527 pages to find the right one. I guess everbody choose directly the filter "Hide other coins", but still you have to select that filter on every page. Why not using this filter for all the 527 pages which will be a huge increasement of the number of pages!
Second wish will be that as soon as you selected a country, it also would be nice to see how many coins each collector can offer me from the green dots, so I can start with the collector which can offer me the most coins.
And except hide all coins, other than green dots, it also would be great to see/filter only my red hearts/wishes(I would love to see this filter also on the country list, between in/out/both).
Quote: mic-w-nl8) removal of old not used accounts.
People who are not active for let's say half a year, or maybe even a year, give them a reminder if they still what to use there accounts and delete after no reaction or at least make there doubles unvisible.
In total agreement, although I think the limit to become "inactive" shall be around 3 months, so I am a bit stricter than you, but that is up to discussion
NUMBER 9: I do not really understand, can you elaborate, please? - or maybe others do, please, help!
I did propose this change earlier, but not sure if enough thought was given to it or if it was understood correctly. so here are go again.
When looking at someone's swap list I'd like to have a grade filter. Currently, we can either see a full swap list or hide those coins that we have, period. (With some other minor filters like "hearts" and "x-es").
It is easier to explain what I want with an example. Assume I have a coin in VG grade in my collection and I wouldn't mind upgrading it to a better one. While looking at someone's list I select a grade, e.g. F, and their list is filtered to include coins I don't have as well as coins I do have but with grades below F (my grades).
I know some people don't really use grades when cataloging their collection here and this feature may be useless for them but I'm sure there is a lot of people who may welcome this additional filtering.
Hope this makes sense. If it does not, please ask for clarification.
Explanation Number 9:
If you go to "start a swap" and choose in "coins to exchange by territory" the country "France" you see 527 pages. Under legend you see and can click on "hide other coins". That function works only for the pages you are in. For me the first 2 pages contain coins with green dots, which I don't have. Then there will be a few hunderd of pages, with coins with I have, so a hell of a job to find the next page with coins, which I don't have. It would be great if the filter "hide other coins" will work for all 527 pages and give me an overview from only about 20 pages with coins which I don't have and are available for trade.
Then back to the page "start a swap". This is the overview I use the most in Numista. It's good you can sort on the different column! Especially "coins that may interest you" (even in combination with "your wishes")
It would be nice if you select a wanted country and see a simular overview, but only of the country you select. So you can see which collector can offer you the most of you missing coins from that country.
I am not sure that I can fully represent this view with Xavier tomorrow, but I try my best. We might come back to you with further insights into the issue.
Imre
Thank you to Xavier and Bam for accepting my offer to help out.
I have been meaning to be in touch sooner but the last few days have been crazy.
I enjoyed reading some of the suggestions - there are some great ideas. On the subject of communication I think we need to create a culture where users inform moderators of things they feel are inappropriate rather than taking matters into their own hands.
I think this can be done by adding to the forum rules about how to deal with behaviour users feel is inappropriate. I think it should also be made quite clear to people when they sign up what is expected of them in terms of behaviour and they should be informed from the start how to deal with poor conduct.
I think if we comunicate our concerns better it will help disperse a lot of ill feeling. I am almost certain that in the past comments which have been made in humor without malicious intent have caused others to judge them inaccurately. I am guessing that resentment can grow and will eventually be released in quite a shocking way. But if these misconceptions can be explained away serious problems can be avoided before they occur.
Dear Walder Coins, [there must be a better way to call you ]
Welcome!
Nice intro into a world of serious numismatists and at the same time, some not so serious. I wish you great luck, and I will be of support in all cases, I can. In some cases, I will be not very supportive, but I think you already know that.
I hope your work will bring joy and happiness,
all the best,
Hello from Greece. I also have some suggestions to make:
1) A coin identifier in the Numisdoc section would be helpful especially for new collectors. Many of us use Krause catalogs and have come along with this one:
I think I can help with that and gather some images if needed.
2) Another feature Krause catalog offers is the number converter:
Of course the date converter is very useful, but this could be used in addition.
3) The feature "Open page in new tab" with a right click is disabled, both in Firefox and Chrome. I wonder if it could be work.
4) The rating of a swap could appear in the swap page and not only through the user's profile.
5) Just for leisure and fan... What about a daily trivia coin question or a coin identification question? Users submit questions that can be entered in a database and appear randomly every day. Then the user could have statistics about their percentage of correct answers.
Quote: nik_gr3) The feature "Open page in new tab" with a right click is disabled, both in Firefox and Chrome. I wonder if it could be work.
When a special Numista menu opens on right mouse click just select "Disable this special menu" or you can even disable it permanently in your settings - Permanently disable Numista special right-click menu (the very last option).
If you want to keep both - special Numista menu and opening links in a new tab, try clicking a link while keeping Ctrl button pressed.
Quote: nik_gr5) Just for leisure and fan... What about a daily trivia coin question or a coin identification question? Users submit questions that can be entered in a database and appear randomly every day. Then the user could have statistics about their percentage of correct answers.
Thanks,
Nikos
I think this is a particularly supportive thought. Any game or friendly competition increases the participation of the members.
I like all the ideas. I would also like to suggets the default page (the one you get to after signing in) to be something other than the Dashboard. This page has the most content and takes the longest to load up. Some of us still have slow and expensive internet.
Rick
Quote: ricksvanI like all the ideas. I would also like to suggets the default page (the one you get to after signing in) to be something other than the Dashboard. This page has the most content and takes the longest to load up. Some of us still have slow and expensive internet.
Rick
Hi ricksvan,
welcome to the forum and thanks for the input
Add the functionality "I don´t want this coin" for each entry.
For instance: https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces9489.html
There are 4 variations of 1989. I have one. I don´t "want" any of other variations.
It would be nice to tick and then it wouldn´t appear with the " ! " symbol when consulting a swap list of other members´ list. I have a lot of swapped coins with other members that when I get them, I realise that a) I made a mistake and the mintmark, thin, edge, type, whatever.. is different (which is mostly irrelevant for me).
I would like to have this option, as sometimes it doesn´t appear the "double tick" symbol (meaning that I have all coins of that KM#), while I´m only missing proof versions of the coin. This allows better customization of our "point-of-view" of the database, adapting it to our needs.
Very interesting and welcome ideas, I'd really like to see changes made to the Dashboard and the Start A Swap page
I have another suggestion- Every coin has a story, why not have some comments section (like in YouTube, below the video or Wikipedia, in a separate tab on the same page) where people can add historical facts, opinions and details about the coin!
Quote: karanbhai2005I have another suggestion- Every coin has a story, why not have some comments section (like in YouTube, below the video or Wikipedia, in a separate tab on the same page) where people can add historical facts, opinions and details about the coin!
regards,
Karan
Really HAS to have a magnify function for the map when looking for some islands. Also any chance of having the mobile web app updated to get more features ? This is what I use the most!
A feature I would appreciate would be a better explanation of varieties- for example, the high and low seven 1977 Canadian nickel. I collect these coins by date, mint and common varieties, but I have to go "off Numista" to find the types, and how to tell them apart. It would be very handy to have a link available on the coin page that shows the difference.
Numista is the best coin site around right now, and I am looking forward to seeing some of these suggestions implemented to keep it #1!
Quote: karanbhai2005I have another suggestion- Every coin has a story, why not have some comments section (like in YouTube, below the video or Wikipedia, in a separate tab on the same page) where people can add historical facts, opinions and details about the coin!
regards,
Karan
Very cool Karan, it is already sent to Xavier to add a section before the obverse part of the coin, like: "General description" - most of us who modify are telling those stories now under the obverse heading, which is, yes, slightly misleading.
Thanks for reinforcing!
Imre
Quote: rhinoA feature I would appreciate would be a better explanation of varieties- for example, the high and low seven 1977 Canadian nickel.
Yes, technically it would be great to have - again in the "adding a new coin template" a repeatable section for description of varieties and the possibility to add pictures. It should be best to have it after the "edge" section. And only with alternatively opening window, otherwise we keep people demotivated by the complexity of the adding template.
Quote: imrehVery cool Karan, it is already sent to Xavier to add a section before the observe part of the coin, like: "General description" - most of us who modify are telling those stories now under the obverse heading, which is, yes, slightly misleading.
Thanks for reinforcing!
Imre
Wow, that's great! It would be really helpful, but on second thought, I think it would also need some supervision so if there's any disagreement, argument or wrong information, it can be controlled ?
Further I also liked the idea about modifying the dashboard - not everyone wants to have 1 coin from each country just to complete the dashboard, right? Maybe on the dashboard we can have a checklist or something and track the progress of how far we have reached. In the near future, I would like to start collecting coins of India's princely states. But not all the coins, so if there are, say 5000 coins of all of India's princely states but I only want to start with the 500 coins of the Rajputana region - Jaipur, Jodhpur, Alwar, Udaipur, Bikaner and so on. I can put those 500 on my checklist and measure my progress 100, 200, 300 and so on every time I log in. That would be really cool.
Quote: imrehVery cool Karan, it is already sent to Xavier to add a section before the observe part of the coin, like: "General description" - most of us who modify are telling those stories now under the obverse heading, which is, yes, slightly misleading.
Thanks for reinforcing!
Imre
Wow, that's great! It would be really helpful, but on second thought, i think it would also need some supervision so if there's any disagreement, argument or wrong information, it can be
Sounds like a good idea, I think this also could be the place for rhino's high and low 7.
And totally agree this should go through a moderator, so there won't be a proliferation of non info!
Namaste ve goodemiddag, (I feel like I said that before )...
I do not see what moderators can add to that, if you modify/add info about Willem Alexander or a Rajastan Raja, who is a moderator to tell whether you are right or not... untill an other expert in your local culture/history objects to what has been published.... so I think it just can go ahead as is (as a suggestion)
we need to respect and trust local expertise. Personally, I would be furious if a [foreign, non expert] moderator would question my own personal knowledge on Hungarian history/literature/ or anything the coin is about...
Cheers,
Imre
Well, you're the referee for Hungarian coins, so I think you're allowed to modify Hungarian coins, but I would like to suggest also to judge comment of other about Hugarian coins ...
Quote: mic-w-nlWell, you're the referee for Hungarian coins, so I think you're allowed to modify Hungarian coins, but I would like to suggest also to judge comment of other about Hugarian coins ...
Oh yes, yes, but I am also the referee for Ottomans, and if there would be a Turk giving a good sounding explanation on a coin, I would without any judgement verify that. Likewise, if you add some data on Willem Alexander, I think the refeeeeeki for Holland should do the same.
Anyways, I do not see this as a barrier in a normal case,
Imre
I have another improvement to propose as well (maybe it has been already discussed but I can't follow all the posts):
It would be useful after the confirmation of a swap, or even earlier if the user require so, the unchecked coins to disappear from the list. This is extremely helpful for large swaps.
Regards,
Nikos
I would like to filter all coins with that heart symbol which are marked in catalog as rare, it is very easy to do, just under "my wish list" add new field from db "Comment" that's all... and it will allow to find all rare, ultra rare, etc.
Also it would interesting to use different filters, lets say, I have three filters - silver - rare - pre-war etc and when I am looking to select swapper coins, I have option to use all predefined filters or just one/two of them.
If we believe in the vision, that we should make Numista the number one coin website (at least, this my vision, I hope Xavier buys into this ) then we should start to act like it today!
What does that mean?
1) We should visibly make the Numista Catalog number appear on the coin page (that is an extremely easy job to do, this coin: https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces1.html is 'Numista 1' this how it has started, this is: https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces48623.html 'Numista 48623' - just extract the page# and make it visible) - sounds like a stupid little idea, but it will start people referring to Numista number in their "outside of Numista" communication, as well, so it is an important step for building the brand.
2) We should step over the Krause heritage. We can follow the structure if it makes sense, but we shall be braver to make things differently and properly.Two examples for that:
- Why do we have 53 years of Proof German 1 pfennig coinage under the German 1 pfennig? Because Krause lists them so. Is it practical? Hell, not at all. I just read some posts that someone wants to collect them all, but only the normal circulation coins. That makes sense, if we leave the proofs(set only) coins in the list, the guy will never have the motivational "double tick" on his coinlist.
- Krause has a lot of mistakes. In my own expertise, I can say that there are a lot of "city and duke" issues listed under Hungary, which are not official Hungarian coinage, but belong to Hungarian States. Krause ignores this historic fact, and list them under Hungary, at the same time lists Hungarian territories under "Austrian States", which is a historic nonsense.
I am very happy that Xavier agreed to correct this historical ignorance and we have Hungarian States in Numista.
Same example for Ottomans: why Krause lists official Ottoman coins under nonexistent countries (at the time) like Tunis or Egypt? Just because the mint was there? Following that stupid logic, every German Mint is a country?
All in all, what I am saying is that it is very okay to overrule Krause traditions in the world's number one coin site!
3) We need to operate more like a real "company". We need a vision! ( I have offered one ) We need targets! e.g. Where do we want to go? for example, now we have 42664 coins in the catalog. Great! How many do we want to have by the end of the year? 50000? 60000? - both figures are realistic, but if we do not set targets, we do not know where we are heading.
I have my own targets: currently we have 716 coins from Hungary in the catalog. By the end of the year we will have at least 1500! - that means that Numista is covering the historic coinage of Hungary in about 60%. A first step to make Numista the world's number one coin site!
What is your target with contributing to Numista?
4) We need projects! I would love to see a "Numista world" when all enthusiasts are working to clean up France or Rome or else, in collaboration and teamwork. For that, we need more guidance and leadership from the team.
I already hear the "opposition" saying: ... "But, this is a hobby site, we all are volunteers,..."
Yes.
What difference does that make?
You can work on your hobby in a dedicated, professional manner, and take it as a learning path. I am 47, consulting top managements of companies for living, and I learn things on Numista about cultures and lot more, every day. Not ashamed to say that.
People like Kenny (he already had that remark from me) is learning essential management, leadership, conflict handling skills and multicultural lessons every day he spends here at the age of 17, which he will (I am 200% sure) turn into a fatter salary check in about 6-7 years.(or higher profits, as an entrepreneur)
So long, fellows, I need to catch an airplane now, but before I stop by the Darphane (Turkish mint) to purchase some swap coins for you ,
Greetings from Istanbul, Imre
Yes imre, I agree with you. I don't collect year/mint-wise, but I know people who collect 1 coin for every year. I have quite frankly never come across anyone who collects by year and then by mint (I'm not saying there isn't anyone, but I haven't met anyone so far). But in this coin, there are different years, different mints, then different edges and then further variations, whereas in some other countries' coins it's just mentioned "varieties exist". Although I'd never want to go into this type of collection (it's me, I'm not so patient!). Such details should better be mentioned in "footnotes", one more reason to deflect from the K & M catalogs, and simplify Numista.
Also I'd like to agree with our friends here that it is the simplicity of this website that attracts us, and this should remain our priority while making changes.
Nice, constructive discussion, my compliments to everyone.
Sorry for any wrong words, English is my 3rd language and this is exactly how we speak here in India.
I am the nut who is trying to get a full set of German pfennig {1, 2, 5, and 10]. Some countrys I try to get all of them, some just one a year. I just started India. Just years and mints. I must be nuts.
Quote: ALLRED1950I am the nut who is trying to get a full set of German pfennig {1, 2, 5, and 10]. Some countrys I try to get all of them, some just one a year. I just started India. Just years and mints. I must be nuts.
Quote: karanbhai2005I don't collect year/mint-wise, but I know people who collect 1 coin for every year. I have quite frankly never come across anyone who collects by year and then by mint (I'm not saying there isn't anyone, but I haven't met anyone so far).
I think collecting by type/ date/ mint is a largely American phenomenon, encouraged by the popular Whitman (and other manufacturers) coin folders. These folders are what got me started collecting. I really enjoy working with them, and it is great when you find a tough mintmark to fill a hole in the album! I know the folders are not the most protected way to store coins, but I still like them- the way they fit on a bookshelf, and how they provide an easy way to see progress in your collection.
I liked #2 by Imreh the best. Karan also pointed out the things. I would love to see a link showing more info on the commemoration event of every commemorative coins. That way we can gain more knowledge at one place. Otherwise we have to search through Wikipedia or something to get more info on the event. So a 'comment' or 'info' link will be an awesome upgrade for Numista.
Again I would like to see a link to the side of every year/mint of a coin displaying the coin of that particular date/mint. I am not that serious about collecting coins date and mint-wise. But I love to keep anything I can get easily. Besides there are a lot of collectors who collect by different dates and mints seriously. This new system will help them see the coin of different dates and die varieties. Also there are some confusing coins with comments like large date/small date or large lettering/small lettering. For a newbie like me having only a single copy of the coin, it will be hard to know what kind of coin I have. But with a link to an image for every date/mint coins this problem will be solved.
And inactive members need to be deleted. I don't mean inactivity in forum ( That way I will be in the hit list too ) When I joined Numista I wanted to take the username ''akash'' only. But it was already taken. I never saw any kind of activity from that account (correct me if i am wrong).
Regards,
Akash
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I've got this coin in year 1315, or 1898. The search returned 4 results, and all 4 coins look alike. Why do we have 1 Numista entry for each KM# ? This coin has two types copper or brass and bronze, in two different entries and two different KM's where as the wheat penny has the composition change mentioned in the same entry. Why ?
Quote: imreh(...)
All in all, what I am saying is that it is very okay to overrule Krause traditions in the world's number one coin site!
(...)
I completely agree. Krause lives on his fame and should not be any more " the Bible of the numismatist ".
I am very happy that the Numista Numisdoc is in good hands, man! I'll contact you with some articles which clarifies the Krause myth, also, in some time.
Also, thanks for putting that library and downloadable library together with Monephil. I trust these are the first to break from the Krause cage. Merci.
If we believe in the vision, that we should make Numista the number one coin website (at least, this my vision, I hope Xavier buys into this ) then we should start to act like it today!
What does that mean?
1) We should visibly make the Numista Catalog number appear on the coin page (that is an extremely easy job to do, this coin: https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces1.html is 'Numista 1' this how it has started, this is: https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces48623.html 'Numista 48623' - just extract the page# and make it visible) - sounds like a stupid little idea, but it will start people referring to Numista number in their "outside of Numista" communication, as well, so it is an important step for building the brand.
I totally agree that you should let go of Krause, but my objection to the Numista ID is its randomness. If I sort my collection on Country + KM No I get a pretty well ordered list (exceptions confirm the rule of course, like Mexico; I don't know what Krause was thinking there...).
If you remove (or downgrade) the KM numbers you'll need some kind of other way to order the coins in a logical manner.
Other suggestions:
A) On the 'Start a swap' page you can see how many doubles you have for other members and how many they have for you. I'd like to see this information in the Profile page too. Before I ask a member for a swap I always check these numbers to prevent requesting a swap with someone you have nothing to offer.
B) I collect coins from 1810 to 2010, but I can't really enter that in the 'Your wishes' criteria. If I enter that I don't want coins earlier than 1810 or later than 2010, it also excludes coins that were minted from 2009 to 2012. Could we have two additional filter fields here? Earliest date and Latest date?
Quote: DappereDodoI totally agree that you should let go of Krause, but my objection to the Numista ID is its randomness. If I sort my collection on Country + KM No I get a pretty well ordered list (exceptions confirm the rule of course, like Mexico; I don't know what Krause was thinking there...).
If you remove (or downgrade) the KM numbers you'll need some kind of other way to order the coins in a logical manner.
Thanks for your comment. Let me elaborate on that: I suggest the Numista no. not to replace KM or RIC or any local cat. number, but to live together peacefully on the same site, so if you prefer Country+KM: fine. or Country+Funcke (german notgeld) fine, however you also will have the liberty to say Numista34152 and people will know how to find the item.
I am totally going for multiple cat. numbers!
Letting go of Krause to me means that we should not follow some of their historically ignorant mistakes in building a modern catalog. (btw, soon I will start a post KM mistakes, because there is a long list, and we should be aware!)
Just one concern Imreh, how would you cope with a situation where a coin has only 1 km number but different Funck numbers (for exanplemnfor different varieties).
Anyways, how did your meeting go? A lot of good suggestions were made, what will be build? Can we follow the process?
I've kind of lost track of all suggestions, them being listed in one thread. It would be great if we could follow each suggestion in some kind of bugtracking system.
Quote: DappereDodoJust one concern Imreh, how would you cope with a situation where a coin has only 1 km number but different Funck numbers (for exanplemnfor different varieties).
Honestly? I have no clue , but I am sure there is a way. I have already encountered the challenge with 16-17. century Hungarian coins, under one KM there might be 3-4 EH numbers...
Quote: DappereDodoAnyways, how did your meeting go? A lot of good suggestions were made, what will be build? Can we follow the process?
Very constructive. For one we have agreed that Xavier will browse through the list above and react in a systematic manner. (still to come )
He also agreed that he shall communicate more transparently on what he is doing, what is on the to-do-list etc.
We also had other agreements, which he shall communicate, and partially he already did.
Quote: DappereDodoI've kind of lost track of all suggestions, them being listed in one thread. It would be great if we could follow each suggestion in some kind of bugtracking system.
... or if we would have an action plan with milestones and achievements, like in the real world, that would be awesome!
Thank you all for your suggestions. I have summarized the ideas of this topic. Some are very good and will be implemented as soon as possible. Other need more thoughts before I can make a decision. At last there are some ideas that I don't like and I explain why.
Here are the ideas I have added to my TODO list:
Alternative Catalog Numbers
Links between coin pages
Improved dashboard (various and funny stats)
More pictures per page to show variations
Type a country's name and have it shown where it is on the map
Improved Excel export (not a priority for me though)
24 hours cool down
Rating of a swap displayed on the swap page
Specify you are not interested in the other years/variations of coin, so that it shows like you already have all the years/variations.
More features included in the mobile version
Hashtags for coins
External links on coin pages (Wikipedia, forum discussions, etc)
Number of potential exchangeable coins shown also on the profile
Here are the ideas which need more thoughts
Follow other members (what does that mean exactly?)
Improvement of the filters in the list of coins to swap by country
Take grades into account for swaps (e.g. I already have this coins but I would like to have it in better grade)
Free comments on coin pages
General description section on coin pages
Numista coin numbering
Better display of proof issues
Targets / projects for Numista catalogue
Improvements management system on Numista
Here are the ideas I don't like:
Degree of completeness of one's collection for each country (I don't see any way to define how many coins were struck on a given territory along the history)
Remove old accounts (inactive accounts should not be viewable in double lists, but they should not be deleted either. There is no need for this and it could lead to some accounts closed although there owner want to come back)
Not show the dashboard on log in.
Remove unchecked coins from swap pages (although I appreciate it can clutters the swap page, it helps understanding the negotiation)
Filter on rare coins (we don't have the data to tell whether a coin is rare or not. Besides this notion is very subjective)
Here are the problems I won't consider:
Any Numisdoc or forum activities are up to the members!
Wish list can already include time periods like "1810-2010" just type it in the date field!
Quote: XavierHere are the ideas I have added to my TODO list:
Alternative Catalog Numbers
Links between coin pages
Improved dashboard (various and funny stats)
More pictures per page to show variations
Type a country's name and have it shown where it is on the map
Improved Excel export (not a priority for me though)
24 hours cool down
Rating of a swap displayed on the swap page
Specify you are not interested in the other years/variations of coin, so that it shows like you already have all the years/variations.
More features included in the mobile version
Hashtags for coins
External links on coin pages (Wikipedia, forum discussions, etc)
Number of potential exchangeable coins shown also on the profile
Thanks Xavier, that is already an ambitious plan!
Let us know if you need specific ideas or suggestion, there are a lot of brilliant brains out there!
Some further thoughts on what you wish some elaboration on (I only comment on those I can relate to)
Quote: XavierHere are the ideas which need more thoughts
Follow other members (what does that mean exactly?)
- It is like on LinkedIn or Twitter (although I don't use Twitter) that you can mark certain people on the forum, whose opinion counts to you or otherwise important to you, then you got a notification message, if that person posted something. That makes easier to follow opinion leaders or just funny guys, or whoever you wish - If it is not easy to do, I don't think it is a priority!
Quote: Xavier
Free comments on coin pages
General description section on coin pages
- We tend to describe general stories of the coin in the OBVERSE section, as there is no other place to do that, if you look at this coin: https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces47971.html it has 3 paragraphs under the "subtitle" obverse, of which the first two is about the coin and the story behind in general. I think a "general description" section would encourage people to add the stories of the coin, plus it would be not a nightmare for the referees to replace the old text under the new subtitle.
Quote: Xavier
Targets / projects for Numista catalogue
Improvements management system on Numista
-We'll work on that, Xavier, hopefully!
Quote: XavierHere are the ideas I don't like:
Degree of completeness of one's collection for each country (I don't see any way to define how many coins were struck on a given territory along the history)
Hmmm, it is a pity, you do not like it.
That is only thing, I really like from your "don't like" list, so let me do some more convincing:
Currently this is what we see in the country list:
Czechoslovakia 166 coins
I think it would be awesome to see something like this:
It gives a true picture on our website completeness status
It gives members a feeling of progress and pride how their countries are documented on Numista
It gives motivation to the referees and teammembers to work on a certain country
It gradually increases the financial value of Numista (your business interest)
It starts a healthy competition between countries (e.g. I might be proud of having 785 Hungarian coins on Numista (beaten only by France, Canada and UK, if we count proper countries , as a referee, but Bulgaria is much more complete with 238 coins documented!!! )
It gives guidance to younger/less experienced collectors. Someone could wow today to see that Ancient Romans minted 507 types of coins, ... and the poor soul is totally mislead, because the Ancient Romans minted 35000+ types of coins!
It can guide people for collecting some countries: "God, I can have an almost complete Czechoslovakian collection, because the country will not issue more coins!"
Most importantly: it gives a valid feedback to collectors on "how complete is my Slovenian collection?"
Quote: XavierI don't see any way to define how many coins were struck on a given territory along the history)
True. Very difficult for some countries,
however:
1) Leave it to the referees! They shall have their local sources to count or estimate (+/- 10%) - I do for my countries, plus as you see Czechoslovakia - referees can also review their countries, like yearly to add new commemoratives and else...
2) We do not need extremely precise figures, just good enough, well-founded estimates
3) About 2/3 of the countries it can be given in a precise manner, because the country is either very young (e.g. US, Romania, Bulgaria, Turkey, Serbia, Kazakhistan, etc... ) or has a definite term in history (e.g. Sowietunion, Czechoslovakia, Germany (empire), German Democratic Rep., Yugoslavia, Ajman or Mombasa...)
4) Even is we have no-one has no clue on some countries, the rest can still adapt the new measure...
Well, if you read so far, I get you a beer, next time in your town, just send me a PM! A good Tsingtao, would do
Can we have further inputs to support Xavier in this massive job, guys?
Quote: XavierHere are the ideas I have added to my TODO list:
Improved Excel export (not a priority for me though)
This is for me my number one wish!
At least 2 improvements needed:
- Export of wishes; I've not seen coinmarkets with wifi yet, I would love to have a printed (and up-to-date) overview of my wishes always available in my pocket!!!
- export of grades; that will help me a lot for my insurance! Then I don't need to maintain a second list of my collection!
I hope this can get a little more priority!
Skipping the merging of the country fields and placing the country for each coins, will help a lot for more easy filtering on the output in Excel.
Degree of completeness of one's collection for each country (I don't see any way to define how many coins were struck on a given territory along the history)
There's one I think easy solution, completeness, based on the coins in Numista. This gives already a good impression and would be nice to use in the "funny stats" on the dashboard: I'm much more intersted if I have a country almost complete as that I have 2 or 200 coins of that country, the more red in the map, the more I have (almost) completed!
One step further would be the completeness of all coins after 1900, or all without non-circulating commemoratives, or without all "don't want this coin"s
Quote: Xavier
Remove old accounts (inactive accounts should not be viewable in double lists, but they should not be deleted either. There is no need for this and it could lead to some accounts closed although there owner want to come back)
As soon as the doubles of inactive accounts are not visible, I agree, but if I look for a single coin or start a swap by country, I see I think the doubles of inactive accounts, try to make swaps and never get answers ...
Quote: XavierHere are the ideas which need more thoughts
Improvement of the filters in the list of coins to swap by country
I gave already some detail explanation of the issues I have with this overview.
Quote: mic-w-nlExplanation Number 9:
If you go to "start a swap" and choose in "coins to exchange by territory" the country "France" you see 527 pages. Under legend you see and can click on "hide other coins". That function works only for the pages you are in. For me the first 2 pages contain coins with green dots, which I don't have. Then there will be a few hunderd of pages, with coins with I have, so a hell of a job to find the next page with coins, which I don't have. It would be great if the filter "hide other coins" will work for all 527 pages and give me an overview from only about 20 pages with coins which I don't have and are available for trade.
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There are more suggestions for improvement of this session, but I think if you change the "hide other coins" for all pages, this will be the best and most helpful improvement for this page!! Other (but less nice) option is to show more coins on each page, or make this adjustable (50-100-200-500-1000 lines a page).
The completeness could be a factor of improve and social interaction and personal hobby achievement, whatever.
Taking the previous Imreh example: Czechoslovakia
166 total coins listed
BUT...
I don´t collect gold, palladium and non-circulated coins (119 I guess - the ones marked with the "X" of my "do not want" criteria list)
So, this leads to 47 total coins. (total coins listed (minus) - total not wanted coins)
From these, I have 41 out of 47. So Czechoslovakia 41/47
I think this would be an easy thing to implement, as basically is an equation [total number of green checks] / [total coins listed (minus) - total not wanted coins]
I took my example, but this goes for those who only collect coins from a period 1800-2000 - AND have already inserted their personal criteria - so those coins that are not in this period in their "completeness rating" or whatever it may be called.
PS: Doing this exercise, I would also ask if it would be possible a "check" for not showing/hide "do not wanted" coins.
Ohhh.. and of course, I forgot to say thank you Xavier for this exciting and so lovely website that is a step ahead on coin collecting and motivating for this hobby and for the numismatics!
Quote: XavierThank you all for your suggestions. I have summarized the ideas of this topic. Some are very good and will be implemented as soon as possible. Other need more thoughts before I can make a decision. At last there are some ideas that I don't like and I explain why.
Thank you Xavier. At the risk of exaggeration, this is possibly the most exciting development that I have experienced since I joined Numista two and a half years ago. To receive such a commitment from the Site Administrator to improve the site both in the short term and in the long term deserves a big thank you to Xavier and a huge vote of thanks both to Imre and to the many members who have spent time to submit their visions of a better Numista, not just on a whim but with structured arguments and reasoning.
From my own personal point of view, I don't really have any grand ideas of all sorts of fancy features that I would like to see because the functionality of the site works quite well for what I want to get out of it. What I am quite interested in is the fundamental structure and indexing of the site and recognising the shortcomings and limitations of the Krause catalogue system. Whilst I understand that the structure of Numista closely follows the that of Krause and indeed we have to have an established catalogue format for the site to work and to achieve the full functionality and indexing/searching that we need, but at the same time we should recognise that Krause at best has some inconsistencies and at worst can be misleading or downright wrong.
What I am trying to say is I think we should retain the Krause format as the basic structure for the site (someone had a good idea to publish or highlight inaccuracies in the Krause data) but I also think we should, wherever possible, add cross-referenced catalogue numbers (from Spink, Funck, Herns, or wherever) although this may prove quite a formidable challenge. By employing this flexibility in the system we can start to overcome some of the shortcomings of Krause and perhaps serve to appease the "anti-Krause" members.
Just one other quick observation with regard to following the Krause format. There are several places in the Numista catalog, specifically I can think of South African sterling issues, where two or more Krause sub-types, e.g. xx.1, xx.2, xx.3, etc., have been combined into one Numista listing for the sake of reducing numbers of pages in the catalogue. For someone that collects by type this can be quite confusing because if I have one sub-type but need, say a couple more, then that coin will have both a green tick and a red heart and I then have to go back in to the listing to remind myself which one I already have,etc. Just my own personal point of view and I understand that others may have differing opinions, but if we are going to express our personal preferences the I would like to see these listings un-combined and restored to the original Krause format.
Thanks again for everyone's hard work and valued input and let's all continue to support the Numista team members, the country referees and the catalogue contributors who are all working to keep this site at the top of the heap
Just because you can't see it ... doesn't mean it isn't there - Anon.
Quote: XavierHere are the ideas which need more thoughts
Take grades into account for swaps (e.g. I already have this coins but I would like to have it in better grade)
Xavier, this is an interpretation of my suggestion, if I'm not mistaken. Please feel free to ping me if you need any clarifications of what I meant. And thanks for considering this improvement.
Hi, I have another Numista catalog improvement suggestion and I hope that other Numista members will support me )) I think that the following improvement will add more comfort and be more user-friendly:
when you browse through various coin types in Advanced Search mode with the option [Fast input: show - hide] being set to HIDE, it would also be very handy to display the options [I wish to get this coin] and [I don't wish to get this coin] to the right of each coin type entry in the same way they are displayed when the option is set to SHOW, something like this:
I have asked before but can not remember the answer - can we have large pages split into smaller ones?
• Coins per page: 10 - 20 - 50 - 100 •
That is on the page of any country, so why not also on Messages and the Forum? The technology or whatever it is called is obviously there to be able to put coin pages on the choice of four sizes.
I ask for the reason of slow page loading, and I am on broadband, so goodness knows how non-broadband members (or those on mobiles) can cope? I have about a thousand Messages in Inbox, so would only want say the first 50 to show and the rest on nineteen other pages.
There are a few popular Topics that have over 100 replies, especially those with a lot of pictures - they should be say 50 replies per page.
As Messages show newest at the top, why not the same on the Forum - thus eliminating the need for the link » Quick access to the last post
Finally can the member have the option to moves swaps around on the Swap monitor page? There are some members who take ages with swaps and on more than one occasion their swaps have disappeared into Old swaps without me knowing. So a tickbox is required; or at least increase the time they are automatically moved.
Quote: gebikiHi, I have another Numista catalog improvement suggestion and I hope that other Numista members will support me )) I think that the following improvement will add more comfort and be more user-friendly:
when you browse through various coin types in Advanced Search mode with the option [Fast input: show - hide] being set to HIDE, it would also be very handy to display the options [I wish to get this coin] and [I don't wish to get this coin] to the right of each coin type entry in the same way they are displayed when the option is set to SHOW, something like this:
Actually, I don't agree. To make the decision Want or Do not want, it seems logical to me that you need to see your collection. The two seem intertwined to me.
Quote: ZacUKAs Messages show newest at the top, why not the same on the Forum - thus eliminating the need for the link » Quick access to the last post
Personally, I do not know of any forum that displays its posts in this way. Doing this might create a lot of confusion.
Quote: radrick007Thank you Xavier. At the risk of exaggeration, this is possibly the most exciting development that I have experienced since I joined Numista two and a half years ago. To receive such a commitment from the Site Administrator to improve the site both in the short term and in the long term deserves a big thank you to Xavier and a huge vote of thanks both to Imre and to the many members who have spent time to submit their visions of a better Numista, not just on a whim but with structured arguments and reasoning.
Well, thanks to you Radrick for your mature return. I know how it feels, as I went through the same sh*t in February, and I do appreciate and value your choice. A wholehearted welcome back!
RE: SMOKED CARAMEL
I hope Xavier will get in touch and you guys come to a suitable agreement!
RE: gebiki
I have to admit these hearts and "I wish to have/ I don't wish to have" issue was never close to my heart, but I understand it might be important, plus your suggestion does not seem like like a major techy pain for Xavier, so as far I understand I support it!
I have to admit I cannot comment on the rest, that does not mean that I do not like them, I just have no experience. So, if you want us to elaborate on those with Xavier, please elaborate on your reasoning here!
oops, before I got caught as non-supportive, I mean, that please, show benefits of your suggestions, so Xavier can take pros and cons to act or not.
I hope it is okay,
Thanks a lot and keep your creative channels open!
Imre
Back again to the improvement suggestion I raised earlier in my post in regards to addition of the options [I wish to get this coin] and [I don't wish to get this coin] to the collapsed coin types browse view.
Quote: DappereDodoActually, I don't agree. To make the decision Want or Do not want, it seems logical to me that you need to see your collection. The two seem intertwined to me.
Well, it DOES make sense if you collect coins by general coin types only and say only circulating issues. If you use Fast input option set to SHOW to make use of the options [I wish to get this coin] and [I don't wish to get this coin] to mark the coin types you need - some year listings are so long that you cannot actually see the difference between the two adjoining Numista types (and I do not want to include all Numista types into my collection as I have a specific approach to coin types) as you have to constantly scroll up and down to compare them due to the limitation of the screen size (browser window even if maximized). I am not interested in coin dates at all, for me the blessing of Numista is to have all my coin types which I include into my collection being chronologically and logically listed as Numista does. So if my suggestion is implemented, everyone wll benefit, either User will browse coins in full date and mintmark listing or just in "abridged" version when only Numista coin types are displayed - in either way the User will have an option to mark any particular coin as "wish" or not "wish". Besides, as Imreh points out it is likely not a very difficult tech feature to implement for Xavier and as a QA Software Engineer I can fully confirm this. Well, Numista target audience is all numismatists of all kinds )) generalists and coin-type collectors or just simply special-theme collectors and alike - so we must work out an approach which will make Numista a comfprtable place to be for ALL. Of course, back to my suggestion - the layout which I proposed in my earlier post in the dummy screenshot is debatable but the functionality I do beleive will make Numista even more user-friendly and richer in terms of fans )) Thank you!!!
And another suggestion or let me say it is more of a bug which must be resolved.
If User sets a date period in [Gregorian date] filter, e.g. 1900-2013 and also specifies a particular country and coin denomination - in case the country has the so-called "non-dated" coin types as e.g. Algeria does - then the returned result based on the applied filters is totally incorrect, i.e. some coin types are just NOT displayed at all!!!
Just see the two screenshots I made and compare the search result without date period and with it and the issue I'm describing here will become crystal-clear to you.
1) without date period = CORRECT
2) with date period = INCORRECT, i.e. two coin types are gone
Thank you and it will be amazing if Xavier fixes it!!!
And by the way we have another issue with such coin types which are in let us say "pending" status, i.e. such coin types for which some data is in UNKNOWN status (see a screenshot to understand what I mean)
So when Numista User makes a search of a coin (coins) using numerous filters (like in Advanced Search) - some search results turn out to be not 100% true )) Say e.g. User collects only circulating issues and is not interested in non-circulating and tokens, if he makes a search and checks in to show him only circulating issues - it is obvious that he will also be shown some coin types with UNKNOWN status which e.g. are in reality non-circulating ones and for which the UNKNOWN status is currently set. So we need to do something with this issue, too. I cannot propose any particular way-out here - let's discuss. Maybe we could add another filter(s) to deal with the issue, e.g. [Unknown] and if User sets e.g. [circulating] and [unknown] filter at the same time - the seach result will display both all 100% circulating issues and those with status unknown (also some kind of an icon is to be displayed for UNKNOWN for each coin type which has it in the same way as HEARTS are displayed) and it will facilitate the User to make the correct decision on whether to include the coin type as his "wish" or not. This additional filter must work altogether with any other available filter like [tokens], [trial stikes], etc. in group or individually only with a single additional filter and yield results based on the logic of the filter(s) applied with it. Such an approach will also make Numista benefit in another way. All Numista members will be more actively involved in the contribution work of Numista catalog correctness and completeness and having selected [unknown] filter will make everyone contribute to the Numista knowledge base, it will become an incentive to find out the missing info about already listed coins in Numista and add it (as if User sees that he knows that this coin is 100% circulating and it shows up in [unknown] filter - then he will make a request to correct it as circulating and this way Numista catalog will become more accurate and correct).
I think on Dashboard it could be best, if we place it on the base of " Number of coins the country has vs Number of coins you have from that area."
I have 136 Indian coins. So, it Red in colour. Most the of the others area blue. So, on this theory I can never make Azerbaijan Red. But, if we do it by above theory, Someone can make it Red. I think, this will help many persons. If this theory being applied. Your Dashboard will show you, you need to collect more coins from that area.
What you think?
Quote: bideshI think on Dashboard it could be best, if we place it on the base of " Number of coins the country has vs Number of coins you have from that area."
Or we could simply have two options for the User to choose from on his fancy, interest and wish: 1) on country basis 2) on Continent basis (Africa, South America, etc.) with the option for User to freely switch between the two at his own choice
I don't know if is possible, but this would be a very useful addition:
To add extra pics of variant of coins or details.
Some types show for same year "wide date" and "narrow date". If I only have 1 of those coins (or several, but all the same variant), how could I know if is wide or narrow (unless it is very wide or too narrow)?
Same for many other variants like "fine / "bold"; "high" / "low", and a lot more of small differences that are not easy to know based only on descriptions.
I suggest the pics added for those details should be small, being limited only to the part of the coin related to it.
Hope this would be a very good addition, if is possible to to do.
Just 10 options: you understand binary, or you don't.
Catalog Referee Coins, Banknotes & Exonumia: Uruguay, Cuba, Bolivia, Brazil, Chile, Colombia, Mexico, Peru, Paraguay, Costa Rica, Venezuela, Panama, Ecuador, Zamunda, Parva Domus and more.
Quote: adanieluyTo add extra pics of variant of coins or details.
I do agree as well, some useful info on coin varieties we could take from here if Xavier aquires permission to use it or make it by ourselves taking it as an example
You either have read my mind, or have read my posting ... lol
Thank you for your link to that site, while this addition is being added to Numista, we can check our coins there.
Regards,
Daniel,
Uruguay.
Just 10 options: you understand binary, or you don't.
Catalog Referee Coins, Banknotes & Exonumia: Uruguay, Cuba, Bolivia, Brazil, Chile, Colombia, Mexico, Peru, Paraguay, Costa Rica, Venezuela, Panama, Ecuador, Zamunda, Parva Domus and more.
Have the default value of the textbox not be "-" when entering the quantity of a particular grade of a particular coin.
I am fairly new and have been busy entering my collection for the past few months and I've got to say that I have entered "-1" or "1-", receiving the message and popup window "An error occurred. Please try again." probably several hundreds of times.
I'm all for having this error if the user enters something dumb, but I feel like I wouldn't get this error message if the default wasn't "-".
Can the default in the textbox be "" (nothingness?)
I don't know if is possible, but this would be a very useful addition:
To add extra pics of variant of coins or details.
Some types show for same year "wide date" and "narrow date". If I only have 1 of those coins (or several, but all the same variant), how could I know if is wide or narrow (unless it is very wide or too narrow)?
Same for many other variants like "fine / "bold"; "high" / "low", and a lot more of small differences that are not easy to know based only on descriptions.
I suggest the pics added for those details should be small, being limited only to the part of the coin related to it.
Hope this would be a very good addition, if is possible to to do.
The suggestion to add additional pictures for variations was already suggested and Xavier has already added it to his ToDo list :-)
Quote: DappereDodoThe suggestion to add additional pictures for variations was already suggested and Xavier has already added it to his ToDo list :-)
Woohoo!!! really cool! I will be waiting for this new feature to know what coins I really have
Just 10 options: you understand binary, or you don't.
Catalog Referee Coins, Banknotes & Exonumia: Uruguay, Cuba, Bolivia, Brazil, Chile, Colombia, Mexico, Peru, Paraguay, Costa Rica, Venezuela, Panama, Ecuador, Zamunda, Parva Domus and more.
I'd have to agree, there has been a considerable amount of good ideas fledged in this discussion. So much so, it has encouraged me to add my thoughts.
Regardless of how many features, functions and/or attributes the site contains, if it does not have a standard format throughout the entire database, it can be aggravating at minimum.
My background is logistics. Mainly concentrating in warehouse management, inventory control, MRPs and CMMSs. The absolute, one most important aspect of computerized inventory control is "FORMAT". Format is everything when more than one item is entered into a database.
The Numista database needs to have standardization and have it applied across the board. This would encompass not only the information per item, but also the countries listed for searches. (e.g. If one country has multiple entities, like France, Germany, Netherlands and the UK; if one of the countries entities is well detailed, they all should be). I could expound further, but I think you get the idea.
My suggestion would be to concentrate initial time and efforts in giving the database a solid format foundation, then any enhancements, niceties, functions or whatever, will be more functional, easier to implement and provide immense user satisfaction.
To help with the results of searches, in addition to the overall formatting, would be to make more of the fields on the ‘coin addition form’ as required fields. There are a some fields that are not pertinent to all coins, such as weight. (e.g. the weight of a Notgeld coin is almost useless, as the weight of the same ØUNC coin can differ from another.) There have been many incidences with my searches that I would have to find it in one of the publicized sources before I could find it in Numista. This being due to incomplete data entry of the coin in question.
As a last note, I would like to extend my appreciation and most extensive heartfelt THANKS for the work that Xavier and the Numista team members have put into NUMISTA…… From my own personal experience working with inventory databases, I know the hours and mental/physical stress envolved.
Kind regards
Fred….
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Do not argue with ignorant people .. !! They will drag you down to their level, then pulverize you with experience ...
Another thought )) I think it would be very reasonable to make Numista more customizable as to User collecting preferences. It could be a fully customizable approach via User Profile in the form of settings. Say the User collects coins by major coin types only and only circulating issues and is not interested in non-circulating coinage, proofs of business strikes and tokens, so he just checks in the appropriate options in his User profile, saves the changes and voila )) Numista becomes fully customized to his collecting needs. Whenever he makes a search of the coin - he will be shown the filtered version of Numista in all catalog locations, i.e. based on his preference filters. Just a general description of the idea and it needs to be worked out in detail. We could have the following set of filters for example (the filters must work separately and in any combination):
- show only Numista coin types without date entries
- show only circulating issues
- show only non-circulating issues
- show only commemorative coins
- show only tokens
- show only NCLT issues
- show only Proofs of business strikes
- show only In Sets of business strikes
- show only varieties of circulating issues
- show only animal coins
- show only ship coins, etc.
Again it is just an idea and it needs to be detailed and discussed. Probably the filters could be invented based on a thorough analysis of types of Collectors, coinage type and Collector's preferences
P.S.: with the system we now have in Numista the User will never end up finishing, say all dates of a particular circulating coin because Proofs and In Sets only and numerous scarce varieties are included in the type - so even if he collects all circulating dates within the type - he will also need to add Proofs/In Sets only/varieties to have the type display the two green ticks - and if he is not interested in them but only in circulating issues by date - then he will be frustrated as a result!!! Everyone is happy to be concentrated on the goal and completeness!!! So we need full customization of Numista )) even within date lists of every coin type.
Ladies and Gentlemen,
My apologies to everyone for giving you hopes that this site can improve.
I was exchaning mails with Xavier trying all my best and worst coaching, persuasing and communication skills, all my 20 years of leadership consulting experience,... I have been talking to him on skype, where I have received all the commitments and promises, which later have been confirmed in writing... in vain.
I have to say clearly and straitforwardly: I have been fooled! - as you obviously have experienced, nothing has happened of the promises and the commitments, and the only thing which has moved forward is that He is now celebrating Himself on a token. We have been fooled!
C'est la vie - so is life, my friend...
I have to apologize from all of you who have contributed time and effort type down the ideas in hope for a better change.
I think it would be very helpfull to have an Export your wish list to excel in the dashboard along with the pre-existing .
Export your collection to Excel
Export your swap list to Excel
Quote: FlippywhaleI think it would be very helpfull to have an Export your wish list to excel in the dashboard along with the pre-existing .
Export your collection to Excel
Export your swap list to Excel
I agree this will be very helpful and I think not that difficult to do, come on X, give us some hope!
OK, this has likely been mentioned before, but I have a couple map improvements.
- Select how many "degrees" of colour I want for completeness: It is not so hard to generate a fine gradient, correct? I have over 100 coins from the UK (thanks to a few visits and many junk bins), and under 10 from many/most other countries. This means that most of my map is shaded in one or two colours... I would like a subtle difference, so is it possible to make a customizable number of different completeness colours?
- A map "era" - maybe difficult to do too far back, but I have no coins from Kazakhstan. However, I do have coins from the USSR. So Kazakhstan is filled in on my map, giving me a false sense of superiority. My plan: include a toggle-able function that makes all coins from defunct nations not appear on the map.
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That would be really cool.
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, however that pfennig was just an example 
) When I joined Numista I wanted to take the username ''akash'' only. But it was already taken. I never saw any kind of activity from that account (correct me if i am wrong).
, as a referee, but Bulgaria is much more complete with 238 coins documented!!! )
- referees can also review their countries, like yearly to add new commemoratives and else...
I support it!
