tony.c
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Hello.
I found this coin (?), but I can't identify it. Can anybody please help me?
17mm and 0.71grams.
A big thank you!

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nobody
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Posted: 19 Mar 2023, 23:23
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It's definitely a bird.
My first thought was something like this: N#48334
Frenchlover
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Camerinvs
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Posted: 20 Mar 2023, 02:50
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A medieval counter or token rather than a coin.
At first sight I thought it was lead, but the reddish tones here and there suggest copper.
₱o$₮ag€ $₮am₱$ a₹€ mo₹€ £€₲i₮ima₮€ a$ a ƒo₹m oƒ ¢u₹₹€nc¥ ₮ha₦ ₮h€ €₦₮i₹€ "¢oi₦" ₱₹odu¢₮io₦ oƒ ₦au₹u o₹ ₦iu€. ••• £€$ ₮im฿₹€$-₱o$₮€ $o₦₮ ₱£u$ £é₲i₮im€$ €₦ ₮a₦t qu'o฿j€₮$ mo₦é₮ai₹€$ qu€ £a ₱₹odu¢₮io₦ €₦₮iè₹€ d€ «mo₦₦ai€$» d€ ₦au₹u ou d€ ₦iu€.
nobody
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Posted: 20 Mar 2023, 02:52
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Camerinvs
A medieval counter or token rather than a coin.
At first sight I thought it was lead, but the reddish tones here and there suggest copper.
good lead.
https://forums.collectors.com/discussion/985962/were-these-england-s-first-trade-tokens
Camerinvs
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Nicely done, “nobody”.
So, it's pewter, which fits the general appearance.
₱o$₮ag€ $₮am₱$ a₹€ mo₹€ £€₲i₮ima₮€ a$ a ƒo₹m oƒ ¢u₹₹€nc¥ ₮ha₦ ₮h€ €₦₮i₹€ "¢oi₦" ₱₹odu¢₮io₦ oƒ ₦au₹u o₹ ₦iu€. ••• £€$ ₮im฿₹€$-₱o$₮€ $o₦₮ ₱£u$ £é₲i₮im€$ €₦ ₮a₦t qu'o฿j€₮$ mo₦é₮ai₹€$ qu€ £a ₱₹odu¢₮io₦ €₦₮iè₹€ d€ «mo₦₦ai€$» d€ ₦au₹u ou d€ ₦iu€.
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Posted: 21 Mar 2023, 21:06
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interesting piece. his goose is facing left the one in the article faces right. Could it be a fake or a variant?
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ThePoet
interesting piece. his goose is facing left the one in the article faces right. Could it be a fake or a variant?
Most definitely a variant.
See here:
http://irisharchaeology.ie/2015/03/beer-money-13th-century-tokens-from-winetavern-street-dublin/
They seem to be rather rare.
tony.c
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Posted: 22 Mar 2023, 14:23
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Thank you all for the input!
Considering the age and possible rarity, what would be a fair selling price?
Regards,
Tony
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Posted: 22 Mar 2023, 15:12
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