Mainly need help with various states of corroded Chinese Cash and some others [solved]

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Ive gotten a as said a huge bunch of chinese cash from a relative of mine aswell as an roman and one french coin i think i need help identifying which it is on all and then some possible forensic work on some of the worse corroded examples

im not that avid an collector on any of these coin prefering more modern chinese coins to cash modern european to both old french and roman

cash coins underneat





Forensic work ahead, very badly corroded or used cash with one side or both sides unreadble

Diameter: 23.5mm
Weight: (Ill add on tomorow)


Diameter: 24mm
Weight: (-ll-)


Diameter: 22.55mm
Weight: (-ll-)


Diameter: 19.35mm
Weight: (-ll-)


Diameter: 19.2mm
Weight: (-ll-)


Diameter: 19.6mm
Weight: (-ll-)


Diameter: 24.6mm
Weight: (-ll-)


Diameter: 22.8mm
Weight: (-ll-)


Diameter 15.9mm
Weight: (-ll-)

any help with above is mighty appreciated!
french coin
One of these three (all 1642-1643), with the portrait facing left ...

https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces52938.html
https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces52949.html
https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces53040.html
Most likely the first link, with the position of obverse lettering.
Token collector [1600-1899] with some coins
All your cash coins are easily identifiable.
I recommend to read this short introduction to the Qing dynasty coinage :
An introduction and identification guide to Chinese Qing dynasty coins.pdf

And you can also read the Numista introduction to this coinage in Numisdoc.

You will be astonished to discover that you will easily identify your coins.
Lets try we'll correct if necessary :D
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Valens GLORIA ROMANORUM

found with the help of the
ROMAN COIN ATTRIBUTION TOOLKIT MENU
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1st cash im lead to believe is Qiánlóng
Boo Cuwan
2nd cash i cant read it good enough to get anything concrete on the emperor nor mint
3rd cash Qiánlóng but i cant make out the mint at all due to corroded back
4th cash Qiánlóng i cannot find the mint again
5th is way to corroded for me to make an educated guess
6th cash Dàoguang Boo Ciowan
7th cash Dàoguang Boo Ciowan
8th cash Xiánfeng Boo Ciowan
9th cash uncertain on the emperor and mint
10th cash Jiaqìng Boo Jy

This is what i believe them to be so far but i can be totally wrong.
Quote: "Frenchlover"​All your cash coins are easily identifiable.
​I recommend to read this short introduction to the Qing dynasty coinage :
An introduction and identification guide to Chinese Qing dynasty coins.pdf

​And you can also read the Numista introduction to this coinage in Numisdoc.

​You will be astonished to discover that you will easily identify your coins.
​Lets try we'll correct if necessary :D
​ive written what i believe them to be so far any input from your end?
Quote: "Terrazone"​1st cash im lead to believe is Qiánlóng
​Boo Cuwan
​2nd cash i cant read it good enough to get anything concrete on the emperor nor mint
​3rd cash Qiánlóng but i cant make out the mint at all due to corroded back
​4th cash Qiánlóng i cannot find the mint again
​5th is way to corroded for me to make an educated guess
​6th cash Dàoguang Boo Ciowan
​7th cash Dàoguang Boo Ciowan
​8th cash Xiánfeng Boo Ciowan
​9th cash uncertain on the emperor and mint
​10th cash Jiaqìng Boo Jy

​This is what i believe them to be so far but i can be totally wrong.
​1) Qianlong Boo Chiowan, the most usual of all chinese cash
2) Also Qianlong, you should be able to find the mint
3) The mint is difficult to read, probably Boo Yuun

4) You may browse the Numista catalog for Qianlong to find it
5) The bottom character 熙 is recognizable
6) OK
7) It's not the right mint
8) You didn't show this coin
9) (actually the 8th coin) You should be able to find it
10 (actually the 9th coin) OK
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Quote: "Frenchlover"
Quote: "Terrazone"​1st cash im lead to believe is Qiánlóng
​​Boo Cuwan
​​2nd cash i cant read it good enough to get anything concrete on the emperor nor mint
​​3rd cash Qiánlóng but i cant make out the mint at all due to corroded back
​​4th cash Qiánlóng i cannot find the mint again
​​5th is way to corroded for me to make an educated guess
​​6th cash Dàoguang Boo Ciowan
​​7th cash Dàoguang Boo Ciowan
​​8th cash Xiánfeng Boo Ciowan
​​9th cash uncertain on the emperor and mint
​​10th cash Jiaqìng Boo Jy
​​
​​This is what i believe them to be so far but i can be totally wrong.
​​1) Qianlong Boo Chiowan, the most usual of all chinese cash
​2) Also Qianlong, you should be able to find the mint
​3) The mint is difficult to read, probably Boo Yuun

​4) You may browse the Numista catalog for Qianlong to find it
​5) The bottom character 熙 is recognizable
​6) OK
​7) It's not the right mint
​8) You didn't show this coin
​9) (actually the 8th coin) You should be able to find it
​10 (actually the 9th coin) OK



​also could i get the latinized names of the emperors or how to latinize them so i can search foe the cash on numista?
All is in Numisdoc - China
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Quote: "Frenchlover"​All is in Numisdoc - China
​still cant find number 4 i cannot id any mint

number 5 i cannot for the life of me get the mint i know its Kangxi tough

number 6 i cant find it on numista

number 7 is Dàoguang Boo yuwan and like number 6 cant find it on numista

i noticed i managed to put number 8 together out of 2 diffrent coins so for now ignore that one

im going to remove all thats done after this
4 - Qianlong Boo-Su DH#22.309


5 - Kangxi - Chang-Chang


6 :


7:
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Quote: "Frenchlover"​4 - Qianlong Boo-Su DH#22.309


​5 - Kangxi - Chang-Chang


​6 :


​7:
​as said ive now edited the post to only contain all ive yet to solve persay and all ive yet to shown including lots of badly corroded ones
Quote: "Frenchlover"​4 - Qianlong Boo-Su DH#22.309


​5 - Kangxi - Chang-Chang


​6 :


​7:
​Number 1 Jiaqìng Boo Ciowan

Number 2 Jiaqìng Boo jy or boo ji uncertain

Number 3 Qiánlóng Boo Ciowan or Boo Yuwan uncertain due to bad state its in

Number 4 i cant id the emperor i think the mint is Boo Je

Number 5 i think its an Qiánlóng no idea on mint

Number 6 no idea

Number 7 no idea

Number 8 Jiaqìng no idea on mint

Number 9 onwards no clue
Quote: "Frenchlover"​All your cash coins are easily identifiable.
​I recommend to read this short introduction to the Qing dynasty coinage :
An introduction and identification guide to Chinese Qing dynasty coins.pdf

​And you can also read the Numista introduction to this coinage in Numisdoc.

​You will be astonished to discover that you will easily identify your coins.
​Lets try we'll correct if necessary :D
​Thanks for the pdf Frenchlover
Really,

It's too easy, Terrazone learned what out of this?

Hints are better and then he would eventually have started to do his own research, which he'll need how to do in the future.

This was really, we'll give you the solution.

Nobody even asked about the measuremente of the coins, weight, diameter, thickness, alloy of the his coins.

So did you really help Terrazone to learn HOW TO?
Globetrotter
Coin varieties in French:
https://monnaiesetvarietes.numista.com
Quote: "Sjoelund"​It's too easy, Terrazone learned what out of this?
...​
​​So did you really help Terrazone to learn HOW TO?
​I gave him hints and he made his own search. You know, at the beginning it might look compex to decipher a chinese cash, so you can't request to find every thing only by yourself, at the risk of being disgusted by the magnitude task to be accomplished :D
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Quote: "Frenchlover"
Quote: "Sjoelund"​It's too easy, Terrazone learned what out of this?
​...​
​​​So did you really help Terrazone to learn HOW TO?
​​I gave him hints and he made his own search. You know, at the beginning it might look compex to decipher a chinese cash, so you can't request to find every thing only by yourself, at the risk of being disgusted by the magnitude task to be accomplished :D

​I see your point, but I don't agree with the amount of help (too much in my opinion) you gave him. At least I have other priorities than to help with I can't remember how many coins he asked help about. Normally ONE per mail we accept, but it should stop there, non?
Globetrotter
Coin varieties in French:
https://monnaiesetvarietes.numista.com
Quote: "Sjoelund"
Quote: "Frenchlover"

Quote: "Sjoelund"​It's too easy, Terrazone learned what out of this?
​​...​
​​​​So did you really help Terrazone to learn HOW TO?
​​​I gave him hints and he made his own search. You know, at the beginning it might look compex to decipher a chinese cash, so you can't request to find every thing only by yourself, at the risk of being disgusted by the magnitude task to be accomplished :D

​​I see your point, but I don't agree with the amount of help (too much in my opinion) you gave him. At least I have other priorities than to help with I can't remember how many coins he asked help about. Normally ONE per mail we accept, but it should stop there, non?
​you could ask me instead of beating around the bush, yes ive learnt alot the pdf given was a huge aid in this endeavour.

Now as for the rest i dont get your what point your making?

Why is helping someone bad? And if so then why help at all?

if thats how you see it.
Quote: "Terrazone"
Quote: "Sjoelund"

Quote: "Frenchlover"
​​

Quote: "Sjoelund"​It's too easy, Terrazone learned what out of this?
​​​...​
​​​​​So did you really help Terrazone to learn HOW TO?
​​​​I gave him hints and he made his own search. You know, at the beginning it might look compex to decipher a chinese cash, so you can't request to find every thing only by yourself, at the risk of being disgusted by the magnitude task to be accomplished :D
​​
​​
​​​I see your point, but I don't agree with the amount of help (too much in my opinion) you gave him. At least I have other priorities than to help with I can't remember how many coins he asked help about. Normally ONE per mail we accept, but it should stop there, non?
​​
​​you could ask me instead of beating around the bush, yes ive learnt alot the pdf given was a huge aid in this endeavour.

​Now as for the rest i dont get your what point your making?

​Why is helping someone bad? And if so then why help at all?

​if thats how you see it.
​I don't mind to help somebody to learn how to find a solution on his own, but NOT just to give the solution. There is a slight difference.
Globetrotter
Coin varieties in French:
https://monnaiesetvarietes.numista.com
Status changed to Solved (Terrazone, 31 Jul 2020, 17:36)

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