UK 1864 Penny (Not listed on Numista)

Hello,

I was given a Great Britain Penny from 1864 from my relatives, I did some research and found the page of this coin here: https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces5501.html as a proof.

But I realised Queen Victorias head is smaller and searched Numista for this page: https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces4721.html . But it doesn’t show 1864 on the list.

There is this website that shows the young victoria head as 1864: http://aboutfarthings.co.uk/catalogue/uk-farthings/victoria-1838-1901/victoria-young-head-1838-1859/1864-farthing-specimen/

it is fairly worn and the photo is not in good focus, but perhaps the date actually is 1854..?

One link is of a penny the other is of a farthing but unless you have giant ass hands (or this picture is distorted) this is not a penny (please give dimentions in a identification request)... so I would second Midnights opinion about it being a '54.

Yes - confusing - the title and second link are 1 Penny.
The first and third link are 1/4 Penny - which is it??! Hopefully not a 1/2 Penny.
From those two Numista links though, there are quite a lot of differences
between the coins - these are on the reverse ...
REG has no colon on Penny, has a colon on Farthing.
The trident is more closer to the edge on the Penny.
The helmet plume is more fancy on the Penny.
The shamrock/rose/ thistle in exergue is smaller on the Penny. *

* From that last one it looks like a penny the member has.



And yes in the 18?4 date the ? number has a flat top so must be a 5 not a 6 number.

Looking at the two obverses, the VICTORIA lettering starts with the V in a
similar place but the rest of it is stretched out, and on the Penny the A stops
at the forehead, whereas on the 1/4 Penny it goes further round to the headband.
The Penny has a smaller portrait, and it has closer together date numbers.

So again from the two pictures it still, to me, looks like a Penny.



Given that portrait size difference, maybe the member has a Penny,
but was looking at a 1/4 Penny page - especially as both links were given.

Lastly, yes it would have been so much easier if - as already mentioned -
the diameter was given of the coin in question.

https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces5501.html 1/4 Penny [22.0mm]
https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces4721.html 1 Penny [34.0mm]