Especially for German notgeld collectors

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Hi there!
I'm a new member here and want to help other notgeld collectors with their collections and notgeld questions.
Here is a lovely scare piece from Hamm. It is a 'pattern'piece.

Welcome to Numista!

While I don't consider Notgeld to be currency (at least not the notes from the 1920s), some are truly works of miniature art.
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The whole scope of notgeld in Germany, go from 1914-1923/4. The serienscheine pieces which I think you refer are mainly 1921 issues. Although these were predominantly issued to meet the demand from the collectors of the early 1920's, they still have a valid place and many, many of these pieces did go into circulation and were used as currency.
Some are on a par with commemorative coins or stamps - issued but not really intended to go into general circulation, but to be kept by collectors. Leather, linen and silk pieces and several more unusual materials - they are an Aladdin's cave for a collector.
Some banknote collectors don't accept notgeld as banknotes, but that is very nieve and I bet they don't fully know everything they should before they make that judgement. I see them all as items of history that all tell a story of economics, town and city coffers and a demand for them from collectors of those times.......which continues today. Some were issued by banks so they are banknotes. I think a few people don't say that they only collect banknotes issued by the national bank. Each to their own preferences. I have never met a collector who collects exactly the same way as another. The best thing about notgeld is that you can build up a collection on how you want.
Happy collecting. What do you specialise in? It's good to chat. TG-M
I like collecting German Notgeld banknotes. As there are actually so many to collect, and a lot of them are almost impossible to find, you have to basically swap with other collectors, just to get extras.

I like the different styles, stories and themes. I have nearly 2,000 now.

There also strange denominations, like 99 Pfennig, 199 Pfennig and 299 Pfennig which makes them even more interesting
I'm just a collector of coins, not a slave to it, unless I am in a coin shop.
For all you banknote collectors. Link to my swap list.
https://colnect.com/en/banknotes/list/swap_list/COINMAN1
I agree. All the differences and unusual things one can find with notgeld, can't be found with other banknote issues. After having collected notgeld actively for over 46 years now, I am still stumbling on 'new' things I was previously unaware of about them. The small card 'coin' pieces bridge the 2 very separate collecting areas of the usual metallic coinage and paper banknotes. They are catalogued as paper money. There are stamplike pieces too which bridge stamp collecting and notes. It's all fascinating and the hobby of notgeld collecting keeps giving....:wiz:
Interesting. I didn't know some of the 1920s ones had actually circulated.

I have very few, but got my first one two years ago in the Berlin Sunday market at Bernauerstraße (of this type, which is not yet in the Numista catalogue).
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Your piece is from a set of 20 pieces, issued in Berlin. You can see the complete set on my notgeld.com site
This Notgeld was issued by Berlin. There are 20 different ones in the set. The front, (obverse) as shown, is the same for each one. The back, (reserve) have different scenes and are numbered from 1-20 on the left hand side.

Catalogue numbers GrM:0092.1-01/20 up to GrM:0092.1-20/20. They make a nice set
I'm just a collector of coins, not a slave to it, unless I am in a coin shop.
For all you banknote collectors. Link to my swap list.
https://colnect.com/en/banknotes/list/swap_list/COINMAN1
Oh! I see. And that explain why I saw them at times sold in lots.

Mine is no. 8 which shows Spandau around 1800 on the back.

I'm adding a link to your interesting website, notgeldman.
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No. 2 has a variant, as per the catalogues - so there are 2 different year dates to look out for. These 'anolmalies' make notgeld collecting exciting. There are hundreds and hundreds of these variant pieces for the different issues. The Berlin note is fairly common but some variants are quite scarce.
Thanks @Camerinvs :wiz:
There is an awful lot of info held there for anyone who is passionate about their notgeld and who wants to learn more about them and the things to look out for 😉
Here is a very interesting piece of 'wertbestaendige' notgeld:


The time of issue is at the height of the hyper-inflation period (very late 1923) so the face value tries to stabilise its 'worth'. It is worth/could purchase 3 x 1lb packets of artificial honey!
Here is an interesting piece:

Issued in Loebau and undated, but dating from 1920, it is in the form of a 'coin' but made of card, so it is paper money. A nice collectable piece of German verkehrsausgaben notgeld
Notgeld notes are perfectly legitimate numismatic items, as they were used to fill in due to a coin shortage.

I regard them not as banknotes as such, but as community & complementary currency items though.

Aidan.
I see them as banknotes, most issued in emergency times and where there was a necessity for them, issued by local businesses and banks, but not the State bank.
They are small historical documents of a time and state of an economy.
They are an excellent topic for any collector and bring much joy to a lot of people.
What are your main collecting areas? 😃

Can you tell me if this is notgeld, or just a token?

2.30g and 20mm. 

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Rob

Someone else here will hopefully have more info about this coin/token? I never specialised in metal items and never collected them…..

Rkwitmer

Can you tell me if this is notgeld, or just a token?

2.30g and 20mm. 

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Menzel catalog # 5929.1 brass

My opinion is that most people will say this is a token, because it does not have a Funck catalog #.

There are several Crefeld (aka Krefeld) tokens in the catalogue, though not this one.

 

As you know it's a token of the Telegram Office (Telegraphenamt) in that German city. I suppose this doesn't qualify as Notgeld, as gyoschak pointed out.

 

By the style I suppose it goes back to the Republic of Weimar era.

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Here is a very interesting piece from Muenster. If you hold it to the light, Kaiser Wilhelm II appears!

Thank you gyoschak & Camerinvs! The seller had it labeled as ~1919, and notgeld, but what you say makes more sense. I'll add it to Numista.  

Rob

Hey, welcome to numista 🙂 I try to collect notgelds also, I think they show a slice of the history and traditions of the issuer..although I collect only notgeld coins. (I tried to start  collecting notgeld notes also, but later l didn't want to share my attention.) 

Check my collection: https://www.instagram.com/coinsmaniac/?hl=hu

Yes, I see the notgeld issues as historical documents of a bygone era. For me, I call them ‘German Gems’. So much of the imagery and graphics tell us of the hardships the German people felt and the resentment to the Allied countries, just after WWI especially with reference to the Treaty of Versailles and Woodrow Wilson's ‘14 point’ plan.

I learn something new about them almost every day.

Please have a look at my https://notgeld.com website, as it has lots and lots of notgeld information for the avid and passionate notgeld collector. (Hope that is OK to post that here). I am only trying to help collectors, as I see too often, many dealers and sellers ‘ripping off’ the unwary or ‘beginner’ notgeld collector.

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