I'm still thinking the second one is as I said. But the first has me stumped...(which isn't that hard to do) but I'm sure I can see the number 5 in the middle of the coin?
Anyway, do you have a scanner? Can you give weights and diameters?
Ah I dunno.. These not very smart phones ! Lol, thanks for your input though as for the number I think it may be a 0 like the Arabic coins lol oh and I don't actually have a scanner, I just use my phone for everything these days my computer hasn't even been on since they developed iCloud ! Lol
Both coins are from the reign of Abdul Mejid. As far as I can see from these not very clear pictures, the billon coin is indeed a 10 para mint in Constantinople (Istanbul) in AH1255//3 (1841). The copper coin is 5 para of Egypt dated AH1255//15 (1852).
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