Sweden ½ skilling 1803 [solved]

Hi all,

I found two references for this coin, with no obvious way to distinguish between them (unless I'm missing something):

https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces3953.html

https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces101227.html



How do I distinguish between Avesta and Stockholm mints please? Interestingly, I can see no evidence of an undertype on this coin.

Thanks, MBE

hi,
I am by no means an expert on Swedish coins but I think your coin is the coin in the 1st link( https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces3953.html )
The coin in the 2nd link you provided seems like it was stuck over an older coin and your coins looks like it's on a fresh planchet.

You might be right. I don't really understand why there are two entries for this anyway - it's the same catalogue number - KM#565.

good point
I did not that the were both KM#565

Yes, first link and Avesta mint as your coin does not look like an over struck coin that the Stockholm mint was performing over the 1 Ore coins of the time. Also, look at the very big difference where the G meets the A on the right side of the coin under the IV and the size of IV. Also look at the difference in the jewels of the crown.
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Nice one, thanks both. Think we'll call that solved then.

Not so fast, please?



On the second image I see "ghosts" and a different angle, which could be a sign of an overstrike! I manage to see two of crowns off-set to the right (around 20°)?



It's a very interesting find, indeed.

If this has anything to do with the mint as such I wouldn't know.

Quote: "Sjoelund"​Not so fast, please?
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​That's not my coin Ole, that's the Numista picture on the second link in my first post (Stockholm mint).

I can see no evidence of an undertype on my coin. I've checked in my copy of "Copper Coins of Sweden" by O.P. Eklund - he only lists Avesta as a mint for this type, but the book is not terribly detailed.

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​On the second image I see "ghosts" and a different angle, which could be a sign of an overstrike! I manage to see two of crowns off-set to the right (around 20°)

​I think we established exactly what you are trying to point out. The Stockholm mint is an overstrike of the 1 ORE coin while the Avesta mint is not.

Harryg,

sorry, I only saw the the last part of the posting, before answering.... should have started from the very beginning

I'll now have a look of my 1803 1/2 skilling, and see, if I find anything on it. If I do, I'll be back.

Edit 29/04/20: Had a look at it, but it's such a low grade coin, that I didn't find anything else than scratches

I found further confirmation here.