Chinese(?) coins/tokens [solved]

Hi,

I’ve got two coins/token that I can’t identify. I don’t even know if they’re real. Can anyone point me in the right direction?

The left one is 25mm and weighs 4.41 grams. The right one is 24mm and weighs 4.21 grams.

Thanks!

Hello
for
the first one
https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces27439.html
Hartill #16.249 common coin should be a real one
good size

second one
https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces19755.html
Hartill#22.250 common coin too

Wait for confirmation for the two coins

Quote: "gros"​second one
​https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces19755.html
​Hartill#22.250 common coin too
​
​Wait for confirmation for the two coins

​Wow, I'm very impressed! Thank you, I think these are the ones! :-)

Quote: "gros"​Hello
​for
​the first one
​https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces27439.html
​Hartill #16.249 common coin should be a real one
​good size
​

​For these two coins, it doesn't seem to be the same song
Look to these two coins with the same looking like copper allow although they are 700 years apart ...
Other exemples of "yuan feng tong bao" don't look like that. You could argue that it might come from cleaning or polishing but I hardly believe it, I only see poor casting quality with porosity.
A specialist is deemed necessary to determine if it's a genuine coin