Is it certain coins for Gibraltar or Isle of Man you refer to?
If so, they are mintmarks. Let me know the coin and year and I will tell you where the marks are, so you can enter them. Welcome to the site.
On the side with the bird - it is at the bottom.
That page you chose shows AA on there.
Actually the A and A are slightly divided - one either side of design.
Sometimes, but they are generally readable without. There is an image somewhere (will add it in a minute, from an earlier Topic) that shows the letters from A to H
They are not in the usual style of letters e.g. A is more stylised, so in a way does not look like the A that I typed. Will be clearer when you see the image.
Two links below, plus the image - click on it to make it bigger
Yes - if you want to send a Private Message to a member, just click on their name to see their page.
As you are in England, here is a Sets example - the UK twenty pence of 1986 date. If a collector starts from the first coin in 1982 and wants one for each year, and adds them to their collection from pocket change, there will always be a gap for 1986 in there.
The Royal Mint determined that for 1986 there were enough 20p coins around, and none were needed. They still made special sets for collectors though, and needed some (167,000) for those sets. Which is to say there is a slight possibility of getting one in change, but it would only be because someone (or their children - lol) had broken a set up and spent the coins.
I added more to my reply of five minutes ago.
A proof coin is unmistakable - see in that post I gave the link for. In there (near the end, on 28 April) is a picture I took of a Proof coin I kindly got from a member in a Swap recently. They are VERY shiny, and sometimes come in a plastic case too.
The letter to look for only applies to some countries, and most of the time there is none. So your Isle of Man coin is one of the few; that UK 50p does not have them. Also, in India there are not letters for mintmarks, but a diamond or a dot etcetera. In France there were markings, but not for the mint but the designer; there were owl or dolphin or bee and so on, and were called 'privy' marks. Same idea for the Netherlands. There were H for Heaton and KM for King's Norton on some earlier UK coins - such as the 1918 and 1919 pennies; they are both mints in Birmingham, and those two years they were used after the first World War, when the Royal Mint needed help. Some Victorian pennies also had H on them.
I also have some old foreign coins, like Japanese of some sort. I don't think I'd be able to find them on here, but I did spend hours a few months back trying to find them out, but lost the link for the ONE site that had pictures and info about them...I will get pictures up soon and you can check them out. Unusual that me 16 years ago at least found them in my car park, on a small part of grass that me and a friend were digging...
Also, in India there are not letters for mintmarks, but diamond or dots etcetera. In France there were markings, but not for the mint but the designer; there were owl or dolphin or bee, and were called 'privy' marks.
If you don't find any, you can always get them, in a Swap on here. I have made many (79 swaps to date), like when I got that Proof coin. So any spares or duplicates you have, rather than add them to the five lines on a coin page with the grades above them, put them on the right in the Exchange coins, so members can see what you have for a swap. Those 16 (now 45) coins you have already entered are in your Collection, and the ones you want to use for Swaps go in the Exchanges part.
As we are both in the UK then I can send you some, free of charge - like the coin below I have a 1966 with the owl mark on!
Well I'm going to keep adding them 'til I do them all; may take me a little while longer lol
Then I can see what I can exchange & you will be the 1st I come to, to say thanks for your help
I also have about 6 half penny's at my mum's that were hers, all ranging in different years which are a nice collection, but I'm sure they are not valuable lol
lol - well once I've got all mine uploaded and hunted around for some more that I have (somewhere),
I can check out coins that I could make a nice little collection, maybe I'll do the half penny coins from all years lol - everyone needs a starting point.
In fact, I could be wrong they maybe 2p grr - not sure now lol
Thanks - not wishing to overwhelm you on your first day, there are also the 'I wish to get this coin' or
'I don't wish to get this coin' options nowadays on here.
If you see a coin that you like, you can mark it so in a future swap it is easier to select those you want, or don't. It will either put a red heart or grey cross on a swap page. To do so, the choices are halfway down a coin page, below 'Manage you collection' - see that link I added 12 minutes ago.
Here is what a swap page looks like - it shows the exchange coins of a member chosen at random ...
Just to the right of those symbols are others - green dot means you do not have that coin at all; grey tick means you have the coin and that particular year; blue exclamation mark means you have the coin but not that particular year.
Can't see any - your page (currently) shows 45 coins from 7 countries, but there is no View to the right of it; and there are none in your exchanges - yet (but View is there for those). I think in your Profile there is a box to tick to allow other members to look at your Collection.
On the left here go to 'Your account' then 'Settings' and amend if you wish to show. It is right down the end - 'Personal options' and the first of the seven tick boxes; I think it is automatically ticked to start with and has to be unticked to show.
Yes - can see them now
I was going to add something else earlier, but again not wanting to overload you so soon; at the top of these pages you can see 'Numisdoc' ...
Wherein there is a section on grading, plus a section on finding dates for some non-Western coins. I say that as you mentioned Japanese earlier - there is also Israel, Ethiopia, Persian, Islamic, Thai on there.
I missed your question earlier, and add the link for the 1998-2006 coins above. I see why it changed from KM# 91 to KM# 101 later - one is 2nd portrait, other is 4th portrait. I found it by clicking on Jersey on the top right of the coin on your first link, then typed 1998 after the country name in the 'Keywords' box, and that link I show was one of the results.
Yes - the Spanish Peseta right?
I know the date on the obverse (head side, usually) is sometimes not the mintage date, but is the design date. The actual mintage date is in a small star on the back/reverse. Was that going to be your question?!
Such as the 1 Peseta KM# 775 where the only dates on the front are 1947 or 1953 or 1963
Then a collector might think that those were the only three years for that coin, but on the back may be a 49 or 60 or 65 (for example) in a star. Not the full date there, just last two numbers. So on the page below, the entry 1963 65 means 1963 on the front and 65 on the back!
Again, assuming that was what you were going to ask.
Yeah, sometimes the star gets worn and no longer possible to see what the date was.
I have a few like that. Will add pictures later or tomorrow, to show those I have - the stars.
Talking of which; that coin you showed two pictures of earlier - did you already have the images on that site and just sent the links? As if you made them tonight, ideally you add them to a Reply by the 'Image' box above (top right) the Reply box.
Yes - that's it - on Numista the first of the two images is the obverse. So if that side is uppermost, then if you have to turn the coin over to read the edge lettering, then that is B orientation.
Just hoping they are correct on here; sometimes the 'heads' side does not have a head (like the one you chose) so is not as easy to decide which is which - lol.
They are not rare - either of them - it is random or 50/50 which way the lettering is.
Like I mentioned earlier about sending Private Messages, if you click on a member's name it then shows their Profile. In which is where they are from (if they provided that when they joined) and what their Collection is or what coins are in their Exchange list, and also what coins they are looking for, and so on. So you are in Sheffield and have 45 coins in your Collection, and I am in Bedford with 4,830 coins in my Exchange section !!
Quote: Lindsey-Jshame its not rare that would of made my day lol
You never know when a rarity will turn up though. Last year I bought a general bag of coins from somewhere, and used Numista to check all of them, and found one that was not on here. Luckily I was observant though, and when I quickly looked at the back I saw it was from the country you mentioned earlier; Spain. Made to commemorate the Espana '82 football tounament - I guess the same football one as that which is on currently. In the little star I mentioned earlier is 80 so I saw from on here that it was KM# 817 as link below. BUT that page said on the front should be the date 1980 - whereas mine had 1975 on it!! The second link shows my Topic and the Replies and pictures (middle picture in the row of three shows the 80 star down the bottom). Oh, and I am more than twice your age.
The edge lettering is indeed random - there are some Topics about it on here somewhere. The other day I got a coin that shows it; admittedly it is bi-metal, so for that the first process is joining the disc and ring togther. After that it is the same for other coins, which have edge lettering ...
1 The lettering around the edge is put on
2 If there is milling/reeding as well, that is next
3 Finally the obverse and reverse are stamped, at the same time
Though my coin only got as far as the lettering - it has no milling and no obverse/reverse on it!
Which also shows how to add images to a Reply - lol.
It could have been either of those in the two links, I guess. Once the lettering is on, it is thrown into a holding bin, to later on get the other processes done, so like I said it is random which way up evetually the obverse and reverse are struck.
Quote: Lindsey-Jhow can you tell if a coin was proof but has been in circulation and looks used?
does it matter if it is proof but looks like a normal one?
When a coin comes to you, usually the previous owner would have known it was proof and tried to keep it that way. So you can normally still tell i.e. it is kept in a holder of some sort, or is like in my picture. Even shiny new coins do not really look like proof; once you get a proof they are memorable.
Well, it is 99 years old, and I will add a link in a minute to show values. But as you know, value is dependent on condition. Rarity Index only relates to Numista - it is a general indication of how many members own one. From 100 to nobody having one, then it goes down to 97 when one member has it, and so on down, by increasingly smaller amounts. There is a Topic on here I think that tells how it is worked out. There is a Search on the top right for within Topics, as opposed the the Search on the left for coins (or tokens etc).
That is the start page, where you fill in Country, Region, Denomination - the other parts if you know them; like I typed 42 in Catalog Number (as your link says it is KM# 42).
I am rubbish at grading coins, but yours looks pretty good, so between XF40 and MS60 on that page above. Also I see it was 'Struck at Birmingham, England' and presumably in one of those places I mentioned before.
Quote: Lindsey-Jso does that mean its not worth much? lol
I think the lower the number the less likely it is to be rare. Shame that page does not give a mintage.
Maybe - it is in good condition, I think. I don't collect those, but you might. Which reminds me - there is a Topic 'Snap of your Dashboard' where you can post a picture of your world map on here, and see how far, or little, you have to go in getting all countries coloured in. So it would help towards that at least!
The 'Dashboard' is on the left here, in 'Your account' section. Good luck trying to get a Greenland coin - haha. Only kidding.
Anyway - that will do from me for tonight. This has been a good Topic, and would be useful for new members to read, as it has a lot of good questions asked, all in one place. Thanks - and on a personal note it has made my Forum Posts shoot up even closer to the magical 1,000 total; only 18 to go now.
I am only here for a minute, then off out for a few hours. Thought I would add a picture of the last two entries above - to show the numbers of Posts (before they change). Not only for my 982 but also for your 38 so far; all in your first day! Must be a record on here; and all in one Topic too.
Another reason for the screen picture is to ask do you have a picture (avatar) to put below your name - if you'd like one there? Here is the Topic which I show further down it (7 Feb) how it is done ...
Hi everyone! I am new to this site and to coin collecting. I am trying to generate my catalogue and when trying to add my coins there are some letters appearing after the year, i.e. 1969 D, 1969 F, 1969 G, 1969 J, there are many other examples. Does anybody know what does this mean??
Quote: juliandelag... there are some letters appearing after the year ...
Here for example is a 1950 D coin - the date is one side and D mintmark on the other (at the top) ...
Some countries (like Germany, India, Russia, U.S.A. etc.) are so big that one mint cannot handle producing coins for the country in just one place, so there are several mints, each with its own letter or symbol. So on mine the D means it was minted at Munich. Welcome to the site.
Quote: Mark240590One hell of a thread it would be ideal for all newbies !
Oh and at 26 you're not young on here some of the Americans and Canadians are 16 and younger I'm even part of the mature party at 23
Yeah, I remember seing a couple of them claiming to be 12, although you have to wonder sometimes. With the internet I could claim to be an 18 year old supermodel looking for a sugar-daddy.