Plated Steel IOM Coins [solved]

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This message aims at: requesting the modification of a coin in the catalogue

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ceh2019
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Posted: 5 Jan 2020, 15:18 #
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We currently list Isle of Man 5 pence KM# 1255 and 10 pence KM# 1256 as single types with no sub-types. However, the World Coin Gallery (http://worldcoingallery.com/countries/Isleman.php) lists the 2013- dates as "magnetic", implying that these coins have the same composition as the UK 5 and 10 pence coins produced since 2011, i.e., nickel plated steel. I don't have any of the 5 pence pieces in my collection but I do have a 2014 10 pence which is certainly magnetic. Can anyone confirm what World Coin Gallery lists? If so, we can add the magnetic types to our catalogue and then wait for KM to catch up and provide a new number.
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Posted: 12 Jan 2020, 00:27 #
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We can also double check the new IOM catalog in a couple months. Then fix what is needed.
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ceh2019
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Posted: 26 Aug 2020, 14:02 #
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I'm entering into a swap involving a magnetic Manx 10p from 2015 and it reminded me that this issue still hasn't been resolved. Has the new IOM catalogue appeared yet?
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Posted: 26 Aug 2020, 15:36 #
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It wasnt helpful. It states that the coins of 5 and 10 pence were copper nickel until the the 2017 coins issued by the Tower Mint. But if you have magnetic issues, then that is interesting.
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ceh2019
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Posted: 26 Aug 2020, 15:49 #
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Specifically, I have a 2014 BB and a 2015 AB, both magnetic. I can supply images of them stuck to a magnet if that would help.
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ceh2019
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Posted: 30 Aug 2020, 13:16 #
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The 10p coin has now been added to the listings, https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces234406.html. Can I invite anyone who has an Isle of Man 5 pence KM#1255 or 10 pence KM#1256 to check them with a magnet and, if they're magnetic, add the details (for a 10p) or create a new page (for a 5p).
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Sjoelund
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Posted: 31 Aug 2020, 13:55 #
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None of the asked for coins in my collection are magnetic.
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ceh2019
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Posted: 31 Aug 2020, 14:37 #
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Quote: "Sjoelund"​None of the asked for coins in my collection are magnetic.
​Which dates do you have? World Coin Gallery (http://worldcoingallery.com/countries/Isleman.php) lists the magnetic types as starting in 2013. Can we say that's incorrect?
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Sjoelund
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Posted: 31 Aug 2020, 15:48 #
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Here is the list

Ole
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floyd1
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Posted: 31 Aug 2020, 16:00 #
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All IOM km#1255-km#1256 in my collection.

5 Pence km#1255 (Tower of Refuge)

2007 AA non-magnetic
2007 AB non-magnetic
2008 AA non-magnetic
2013 AA non-magnetic
2014 AB magnetic
2015 AB magnetic


10 Pence km#1256 (Lighthouse of Chicken Rock)

2008 AA non-magnetic
2009 AA non-magnetic
2010 AA non-magnetic
2014 AB magnetic
2014 BB magnetic
2014 BC magnetic
2014 BD magnetic
2015 AA magnetic
2015 AB magnetic
2016 AA magnetic
2016 AC magnetic

All the best
Lee
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ceh2019
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Posted: 31 Aug 2020, 16:04 #
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Many thanks to Ole and Lee. We now know there's a magnetic 5p. Lee - Do you want to create the page with a picture of one of your coins?
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Sjoelund
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Posted: 31 Aug 2020, 16:08 #
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and I think we also can deduce that they were introduced in 2014. Probably a clear cut 2013 from cu-ni to 2014 (clad steel)
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ceh2019
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Quote: "Sjoelund"​and I think we also can deduce that they were introduced in 2014. Probably a clear cut 2013 from cu-ni to 2014 (clad steel)
​I agree. When do we feel we can request the transfer of the later year lines to the new pages?
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Sjoelund
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Posted: 31 Aug 2020, 16:35 #
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Quote: "ceh2019"​
Quote: "Sjoelund"​and I think we also can deduce that they were introduced in 2014. Probably a clear cut 2013 from cu-ni to 2014 (clad steel)
​​I agree. When do we feel we can request the transfer of the later year lines to the new pages?
​Let a few days (3) pass and see if you get further support and then make the change request
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Posted: 5 Sep 2020, 23:25 #
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Empires were built on less. Feel free to create needed lines and I or some other master referee can then move the users. <:D
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ceh2019
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Posted: 6 Sep 2020, 14:54 #
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New dates for the 10p and a new page for the 5p have been requested. I don't have the 5p, so that's lacking images for now.
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floyd1
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Posted: 6 Sep 2020, 16:13 #
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ceh2019
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Posted: 6 Sep 2020, 17:20 #
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Thanks, I've added the images to the requested new page.
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Status changed to Started (Jarcek, 6 Sep 2020, 22:26)
Status changed to Done (Oklahoman, 13 Sep 2020, 08:44)
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Accepted edits.
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ceh2019
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Posted: 13 Sep 2020, 15:06 #
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Thanks for that. Are we ready to move the 2014-2016 dates from KM#1255 and KM#1256 to the new entries?
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Status changed to Started (Jarcek, 13 Sep 2020, 15:49)
iknw07554
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Posted: 16 Sep 2020, 19:42 #
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I’m puzzled , why are some coins magnetic and some not for the same coin.
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Posted: 16 Sep 2020, 20:12 #
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Metal composition changed. <:D
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iknw07554
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Posted: 17 Sep 2020, 10:39 #
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Thanks
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