New proposed issuer: Serbia, Despotate of

Having just entered a coin from the Serbian Despotate into the catalog, I noticed that the current position of the Serbian Despotate as part of the Kingdom of Serbia does not seem particularly appropriate.
However, it does not quite fit into the Serbian Empire either.

As such, I believe that it would be appropriate to add "Serbia, Despotate of" as a new issuer.

So, this would be a time after Empire fell and before Ottoman conquest, right?

Quote: "Jarcek"​So, this would be a time after Empire fell and before Ottoman conquest, right?

​Well... kind of?
(Note: the below information is mostly from Wikipedia.)

When the Serbian Empire fell, it fragmented into multiple states, not all of them in what we would call Serbia today (though some of them were).
Probably the largest and most significant of them was the so-called Moravian Serbia; there is one coin from that place (without pictures, alas) listed on Numista (again under Kingdom of Serbia).

Eventually, in 1402, the ruler of Moravian Serbia obtained the title of "despot" from the Byzantines; this would normally signify a vassal relationship, but in 1402 the remnant Byzantine Empire was too weak to confer any actual vassalship, and Moravian Serbia had already been a vassal of the Ottomans since 1390 anyway, so the ruler in question, Stefan Lazarević, decided that "despot" was their new monarchical title, and declared the Serbian Despotate.

Still an Ottoman vassal, also a Byzantine vassal (until 1453, when that empire ceased to exist - and yes, this meant they had to help both sides in the Ottoman conquest of Byzantium), and since 1404 also a Hungarian vassal, the Serbian Despotate held on until 1459 (with a brief interruption in 1442-4), and kind of survived further as a government in exile in Hungary until at least 1537 (though I do not believe that any of its exiled rulers issued any coins).

Hello,

Thank you for the request.

I would like to merge this thread to this one:
https://en.numista.com/forum/topic109498.html

As this new one has a more generic view of the entire region

Quote: "stratocaster"​Hello,
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​Thank you for the request.
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​I would like to merge this thread to this one:
​https://en.numista.com/forum/topic109498.html
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​As this new one has a more generic view of the entire region
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​...is the thread you linked supposed to be inaccessible? I missed your response until today, but cannot see the thread it is supposedly merged into.

Sorry, it's from the referees forum. This is the structure that I've started to implement:

- Serbia
----- Serbia
----- Serbia (medieval)
---------- Branković, District of (example coin)
--------- Dejanović Domain (example coin)
---------- Serbia (medieval) (kingdom+empire+despotate)

- Montenegro
------ Montenegro (mediaeval)
---------- Antivari, City of
---------- Cattaro, City of
---------- Dulcigno, City of
---------- Svač, City of
---------- Ulcinj, City of (example coin)
---------- Zeta, Principality of (for these coins, which are not civic issues)
----- Montenegro

- North Macedonia
---------- North Macedonia
---------- Prilep, Lordship of (example coin)

would anyone know informal some information about the coins of Despotate of serbia?