An unknown old coin

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does anyone know with this coin is from or what coin it is ?

mayby france or german states ???
letter bavar

This may be a jeton produced with the image of Maximilian II Emmanuel on the obverse.  The reverse is NOT Maximilian's official monogram, and doesn't even seem to contain an "M", leading me to believe that the reverse is the monogram of the mint-master who produced the jeton.  It looks like the coin is dated somewhere around 1712.  If it is indeed a jeton or "rechenpfennig", I would assume it came from Nuernberg or Augsburg.

There are a few reasons I think it's a jeton rather than a coin -- first, it's not depicted or mentioned in Eklund's "Copper Coins of the German States", which I find to be exhaustive.  Second, although the german states did many coins of all varieties and depicting any manner of things, they always had some basic ground rules: first, you would always have the denomination fairly clearly displayed on the reverse.  This coin just couldn't have a denomination, and that violates that rule.*

*(There are some major exceptions -- some thalers, uniface coins, and the coins of quirky principalities like Isenburg's "Snipe Hellers"; Bavaria, to my knowledge, didn't produce copper coins without the value).

One more thing you might check -- the coins of the Spanish Netherlands (of which Max. II Emm. was governor), and those of Luxembourg (of which he was the Duke).  I don't have a good reference for either of those territories.
thanks for the information i've searched under the name maxililian II emmaluel and i did find the coin now
its a coin from the spanich netherlands  1 liard from 1712 namur maxililian of bavaria  

http://www.mcsearch.info/ext-record.html?id=551713
Ah!  I see the "M" now!  Glad I could at least point you in the right direction!  

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