Wojtaszek
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Posted: 19 Sep 2019, 20:45
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ZacUK
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Posted: 19 Sep 2019, 21:28
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Please add measurements. What is lettering on second small picture?
Please send again that picture - it is not enlargable like first picture.
Token collector [1600-1899] with some coins
ZacUK
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Posted: 19 Sep 2019, 21:35
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May be better.
Token collector [1600-1899] with some coins
ZacUK
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Posted: 19 Sep 2019, 21:46
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That is better - can make out a few letters now, maybe ...
So that is German lettering, then the 5 is 5 Pfennig denomination.
Token collector [1600-1899] with some coins
Frenchlover
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Posted: 19 Sep 2019, 21:51
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Edited: 19 Sep 2019, 22:05
5 HRAFT
LODZER
TURNVEREIN ?
Notgeld Lützel Turnverein ?
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Seeker55
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Posted: 19 Sep 2019, 23:42
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Edited: 19 Sep 2019, 23:52
Building on the helpful comments of ZacUK and Frenchlover, and translating from German, I think Lodzer means from the city of Lodz (Poland), turnverein means an athletic or gymnastic society, and I think the bottom word might be kraft, meaning force. Not sure what putting it all together means - maybe a Lodz 5-pfennig athletic society token. I wasn't able to locate this item on the internet.
Idolenz
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Posted: 20 Sep 2019, 00:43
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This is a Token from the sport/gym club "Kraft" and according to a library index the celebrated the 30th anniversary of the Turnverein "Kraft" in Lodz 07.11.1937. So it should have been est. 1907.
I just found football tables from the club and a Wiki page that mentions it:
http://www.claudionicoletti.eu/soccer-statistics/campionati-nazionali-in-europa/all-final-tables/poland-league-final-tables/pol-1910-20/
https://pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Towarzystwo_Mi%C5%82o%C5%9Bnik%C3%B3w_Rozwoju_Fizycznego
But nothing about the Token.
Frenchlover
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Posted: 20 Sep 2019, 00:49
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That looks good
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Seeker55
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Posted: 20 Sep 2019, 02:22
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I just wanted to say I think this is a great example of people working together, each solving a piece of the puzzle.
Wojtaszek
Joined: 5 Sep 2019
Posts: 7
Posted: 20 Sep 2019, 23:15
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thank you all for help in ID. Greetings to all
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