Difference between these two Belgian coins? [solved]

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Hello,

Recently I bought one of these coins:


But I noticed today that there are two Numista pages that fit the description for this coin, both with identical dimensions and designs (but different references). Are these the same coin, and if not which one is mine?
https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces38144.html
https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces67982.html
They are the same coin.

The 10 Centimes was struck in Copper or Bronze. It is listed in Krause under X# M8a (the first link you provide), and in Morin (Belgian catalogue) it is listed as M13 or Mor#13 (the second link), however the second link describes it as 5 Francs and this is incorrect because those were struck in silver.
But, the second link describes the known variants (number of sunbeams behind the column).

Both should be merged into one page...
You piqued my interest and there seems to be some confusion on several sites about this. I did see somewhere where the 5F is indeed 37mm but the 10C is 25mm. It also says 25g for the 10c though. Needs more detective work. I'll see if I can find more. https://collectgram.com/item/10-centimes-leopold-ii-50-years-of-belgium/belgium/token/5a20e89c0c4e8507bdd0c3ee
Quote: "Newtony"​They are the same coin.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/33702-BELGIUM-2-Francs-2-Frank-1880-KM-39-AU-50-53-Silver-10-01-/141357323339
​The 10 Centimes was struck in Copper or Bronze. It is listed in Krause under X# M8a (the first link you provide), and in Morin (Belgian catalogue) it is listed as M13 or Mor#13 (the second link), however the second link describes it as 5 Francs and this is incorrect because those were struck in silver.
​But, the second link describes the known variants (number of sunbeams behind the column).

​Both should be merged into one page...
​Yes, that makes sense. The 2F is also silver. https://www.ebay.com/itm/33702-BELGIUM-2-Francs-2-Frank-1880-KM-39-AU-50-53-Silver-10-01-/141357323339
This comes straight from the belgian catalogue:

Bronze or Copper medal - 37mm - Plain edge - 25g - Medal alignment. There is no counterpart as a real coin, but it circulated as 10 cent. The real 10 Cent was last minted in 1856 and was 32mm - 20g.

Silver medal - 37mm - Reeded edge - 25g .900 Ag - Coin alignment. This was the same as the 5 Franc coin.

Gold medal - 37mm - Reeded edge - 32,26g .900 Au - Coin alignment - Again there was no coin counterpart, but this was considered 100 Francs. Only a handful are known to exist.

@harryg - The 2F listed on eBay is a real coin and not a medal that circulated as a coin.
The 3 medals listed above were struck for the 50th Anniversary of Independence and do not bear any denomination.
Thank you both!

So, I will contact the referee for Belgium and ask him to look at this post. <:D
Status changed to Solved (CassTaylor, 15 Jul 2019, 17:33)

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