tinomillennium
Joined: 9 Dec 2018
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Posted: 28 Jun 2019, 14:40
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Posted: 28 Jun 2019, 14:40
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Hello everybody,
Can anybody help me with the identification of this coin?
Weight: 3.4 g
Diameter 13.7 mm
It is also quite thick (3-4mm I'd say)
Thanks for your help!
Bruno
Seeker55
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Posts: 1792
Posted: 28 Jun 2019, 15:58
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Posted: 28 Jun 2019, 15:58
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This coin appears similar in style to some jitals of the Sultans of Sind, such as
https://www.zeno.ru/showphoto.php?photo=222763
and
https://www.zeno.ru/showphoto.php?photo=128753
However, it's not a match for either of these.
Cropping photos would make it easier to see details.
tinomillennium
Joined: 9 Dec 2018
Posts: 58
Posted: 28 Jun 2019, 18:36
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Posted: 28 Jun 2019, 18:36
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Hello,
thank you for your help
I am from the phone so I'll try...
Bruno
tinomillennium
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Posted: 6 Jul 2019, 22:58
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Posted: 6 Jul 2019, 22:58
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Quote: "Seeker55" This coin appears similar in style to some jitals of the Sultans of Sind, such as
https://www.zeno.ru/showphoto.php?photo=222763
and
https://www.zeno.ru/showphoto.php?photo=128753
However, it's not a match for either of these.
Cropping photos would make it easier to see details. Hi! Is the crop of any help?
thanks! Bruno
Seeker55
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Posts: 1792
Posted: 6 Jul 2019, 23:13
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Edited: 6 Jul 2019, 23:18
Posted: 6 Jul 2019, 23:13
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Edited: 6 Jul 2019, 23:18
Yes, the cropping certainly helps, though the details are still slightly blurry, as is normal for small coins. I checked in Zeno again and still didn't notice a match. I do have a suggestion. Many of the coins similar in weight and design to yours are "bull and horseman" types (which include many jitals of Sind). I recommend that you examine the coin in hand closely under magnification and see if it could possibly be a match for one of the many varieties of this type. There are several good threads for this if you search around.
tinomillennium
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Posted: 6 Jul 2019, 23:24
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Posted: 6 Jul 2019, 23:24
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Thanks, much appreciated. I'll search around.
Bruno
Seeker55
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Posted: 7 Jul 2019, 04:03
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Posted: 7 Jul 2019, 04:03
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You're very welcome. Here's one good thread on bull & horseman coins
https://www.coincommunity.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=267786
Parimal
Joined: 22 Sep 2012
Posts: 2162
Posted: 7 Jul 2019, 08:03
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Edited: 7 Jul 2019, 08:14
Posted: 7 Jul 2019, 08:03
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Edited: 7 Jul 2019, 08:14
The inscription above the bull only shows the ending part of 'Samanta Deva'. The image of the side with horseman is not very clear to attribute it to a certain type/ruler. Maybe its anonymous type jital.
Here is the link to pdf of main type catalog from Robert Tye's book - Jitals
https://www.academia.edu/356700/Jitals
The book is the best catalog for these coin types
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tinomillennium
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Posted: 7 Jul 2019, 09:08
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Posted: 7 Jul 2019, 09:08
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Thank you Parimal and thank you again, Seeker55!
Have a nice rest of the weekend.
Bruno
tinomillennium
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Posted: 10 Jan 2026, 14:35
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Posted: 10 Jan 2026, 14:35
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…reopening this old thread I'm fairly sure that on one side there's an elephant heading left. The other side is a mystery still. Any ideas?
Trying to attach some better pics
SGreg85
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Posted: 10 Jan 2026, 14:57
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Posted: 10 Jan 2026, 14:57
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There is no elephant involved, that is just the back of a bull.
tinomillennium
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Posted: 10 Jan 2026, 15:00
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Posted: 10 Jan 2026, 15:00
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SGreg85
There is no elephant involved, that is just the back of a bull.
A-ah! Thanks for the clarification
SGreg85
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Posted: 10 Jan 2026, 15:06
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Posted: 10 Jan 2026, 15:06
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I agree with the previuos assesment. It's clearly a bull and horseman Samanta Deva, but it was a quite popular design: https://en.numista.com/catalogue/index.php?r=samanta+deva&st=1-2&cat=y&im1=&im2=&ru=&ie=&ca=3&no=&v=&a=&dg=&i=&b=&m=p&f=&t=&t2=&w=3.2-3.6&mt=&u=&g=&c=&wi=&sw=
You need the text on the horseman side to further pinpoint things, but the lettering on that side is off the flan.
Geison
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Posted: 10 Jan 2026, 17:22
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tinomillennium
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Posted: 13 Jan 2026, 16:19
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Posted: 13 Jan 2026, 16:19
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Thanks both for the help!
Status changed to Solved
(tinomillennium , 13 Jan 2026, 16:19)
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