" Unidentified Coinage Object "

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Hello,



I found this strange object with very pretty ornaments. Does anyone know what it is? A fake of a medal?
I found only this site that ranks it as an original of a private collection! Strange ... however the weight is different.

https://www.icollector.com/item.aspx?i=17293533

My medal:
weight g. 26.5
diameter mm. 39 * 2.5
metal, perhaps copper alloy

An opinion, if it were original?
Valuable coins are forged in China.
Yours looks like that.
The weight is not correct, so no doubt a copy
Did you try a magnet? (silver tests)
http://www.silvercoins.com/fake-silver-coins-14-ways-to-spot-counterfeits/

https://www.thesprucecrafts.com/chinese-coin-counterfeiting-ring-4071202
Non est totum quod splendet ut aurum
Rijkdom bestaat niet uit het hebben van veel bezittingen, maar in het hebben van weinig behoeften
I don't think the original is silver, the color is almost yellow.
After the specific gravity test in the water, I assume that my medal is of copper alloy.
The bust should be the last empress with powers of the 'heavenly empire'.
The serious problem is: can a numismatic society evaluate a non-governmental object, perhaps in a single original?
It is not even a coin. If there is only one item, then, mine could also be an original ...
I feel incredible having found this rare medal, and a site that sells the original.... difficult to identify.
<No one knows anything about the subject?
just accept it is a replica
If it is rare, the chance you find one is very small:`
Non est totum quod splendet ut aurum
Rijkdom bestaat niet uit het hebben van veel bezittingen, maar in het hebben van weinig behoeften
Taken from E. Kann Illustrated Catalog of Chinese Coins, 1966.
This is a fantasy piece from China shown on Plate 210 #B15; supposed to depict 1 tael of Shantung, 1900.

"While a forgery is an imitation of existing genuine coins, fantasy pieces are imaginary creations of unauthorized fabricators, senseless but not purposeless, for the manufacturers clearly aim at the gullibility of unwary collectors. Our rogue's gallery comprises 110 reproductions of such concoctions, a fairly large number, but merely a cross-section of existing stratagems." p446.
(The serious problem is: can a numismatic society evaluate a non-governmental object, perhaps in a single original?
It is not even a coin. )
Well, I was also sure about the absurdity of the piece. Thank you for your research.
Also a correction. The Kann first edition has the photo correct but the wrong number - it should be B-25, not B-15. That changes the label also to: Empress Tzu Hsi (Chekiang) (1835-1908).
Quote: "numisquare"​"While a forgery is an imitation of existing genuine coins, fantasy pieces are imaginary creations of unauthorized fabricators, senseless but not purposeless, for the manufacturers clearly aim at the gullibility of unwary collectors.
​Yes indeed, you are correct
Non est totum quod splendet ut aurum
Rijkdom bestaat niet uit het hebben van veel bezittingen, maar in het hebben van weinig behoeften

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