Question about circulation of the coins in UK and other countries

Hello!

I have questions about the circulation of the coins:

• In UK, can you pay with other sterling pounds as the british pounds? I think at guernesey, jersey, isle of man, gibraltar, faklands islands... because these coins are the same, just the inscriptions and designs are different. And if you have found other coins as british coins in your purse, make a reply with the list of these coins.
  
  
• Same question with dollars, in pacific and oceania: Australia, New Zealand, Tuvalu, Cook, Fiji...
  
  
• And same question with USA and Canadian cents.
  

Thank you friends!

Good question!

Although these other currencies shouldn't really be used in the UK, it is quite common to find them in your change, especially Guernsey, Jersey, Isle of Man and Gibraltar coins. Shops take them as well, but that's more to do with the fact that they look very similar to the point that they are easily mistakable as commemoratives.

Following on from this in the UK: They are not supposed to be used on British Mainland (UK) and shouldn't be found in our change. BUT, they are. The coins may well have Queen Elizabeth II on them but they are not legal tender here.

People bring them back in their change and use them as the same currency, but although I like these coins, I see them as something completely different.

And 1 britih£ = 1 manx£ = 1 gibraltar...

I have not many coins of the bailiwicks and other, if you can find gibraltar and manx coins for me...  
And other countries of course! I collect all coins with EIIR

The Balliwicks all use the £. Gibraltar uses £G. The GBP is significant to 6 places, the GIP is significant to 4 places.

http://coinmill.com/GBP_GIP.html#GBP=70

So, 1 GBP = 1,0003 GIP

But you can use these coins in vending machines?

My guess would be yes... same size/weight. But I've never tried it (and never will)!

Haven't tried it but yes it works.

It's funny how all of the posts on this discussion are from the Team. Including me.

So hey, I dunno if you guys noticed, but many British territories use the exact same size as their homeland. For example, Australia's, Fiji's and New Zealand's old 5c, 10c, 20c, and 50c match the size of the -/6, 1/-, 2/-, and 2/6 respectively. You might also notice countries like Belize, Cyprus, and Bermuda use coins like 25c pieces that are the same size as 1/- and Zambia and the Gambia use 1 cent coins the same size as post-decimalization 1/2 pennies. Then, if you look at coins like the $5 from the Cook Islands, it's the same size as a 2/6.

Since a lot of my coins aren't in 2x2s yet, I've noticed coins from France, French Oceania, French West Africa, Tunisia, and several other territories use the same coin size as 4th Rep. coinage, like the 50c, 1, 2, and 5f.

I did a little study a while back where I would go almost on a daily basis to the post office and ask for £30 change in pound coins then I would search through the change looking for fakes. I found quite a few and not just fakes but coins from the isle of man Guernsey and jersey none of these are legal tender but I argue that any money given to me by the post office which is a state run and mostly state owned company is by default legal tender as if not the state is guilty of stealing from me through deception which is quite a serious crime. If I have the right to spend these coins then shop keepers have the right to hand them out as change and the recipients then have the right to spend or bank them this in turn means that all fake pound coins or coins from the British Isles are by default legal tender until the state stops putting them back into circulation.    

I suppose you are right...but if I were a shop keeper, which I was the son of one, until my Dad retired, I would not allow these coins; I believe shop keepers are in the right, strictly speaking, to decline these coins.

Here in the UK a number of coins slip through and are used commonly, but also sometimes the shop keeper keeps these coins apart: on top of the till. The one cents passed as pennies, the gibraltan 50 pences, the balliwick's coins, and some sneaky Swedish Kronor (similar to the 10 pence in size).

I think something needs to be done about it. I think the British Isles coinage should be made legal tender on the main land and main land coinage legal on the islands (wouldn't know weaver or not it is already) and I think the pound should be redesigned to make forging it hard. I would make the pound coin like the two pound, I would not have a brass wring around the outside but a brass plug in the centre and the wrest of the coin made of cupro nickel.   

A costly change but I think forgers are getting better.

I think most people are apathetic to the coins of the islands coming over here, in a lot of countries as we know it is illegal to send coins by mail from one place to another and it is also illegal to take some coins from  countries of Africa, but it happens. I do agree that something needs to be made simpler with the matter we are discussing.

I should imagine that some of our older £1 coins will be starting to "disappear" from circulation as more of the newer style (with Queen's Standard) come through.

 i dont know ,but i would think getting jersey,guernsey,isle of man an gibraltar coins would be great that they have a lower mintage of their coins compared to the u.k. thats my humble thought

As a collector it is quite cool but either way it costs us a £1 or two!

a pound or two for what???

We have answer at the question for pounds, but for the dollars?


With dollars, in pacific and oceania: Australia, New Zealand, Tuvalu, Cook, Fiji...?

With USA and Canadian cents?

Quote: james wolfea pound or two for what???

To get these coins out of circulation...you have to pay face value for them!

thank you!!!

Yes, when I was little, 20 years ago, I got all my Canada coins found in circulation, I asked my bank about it and they do get a lot that way, but would not sell them to me.  I knew a guy who said it was Canada's trick to steal money from us here in the US, I thought (but did not say), you are a moron, Canada's coins are worth more than US coins.

  other than that there are no coins in circulation form other nations, too bad  

Here in New Zealand we used to regularly get Australian 5c, 10c and occasionally 20c coins in our change as they were the same size and weight as their Australian counterparts.  I'm sure it didn't help that they both bear the effigy of Elizabeth on the obverse. It was such a widespread and commonplace practice that I think most people thought they were legal tender and shopkeepers readily accepted them (after all the Australian dollar is worth more than the NZD)  Our lower value coinage was changed in 2006 so this doesn't happen anymore, however our current 10c coin has a striking resemblance to the British 1p coin and although I haven't found any in my change I'm sure I could pass a few pennies off as 10c coins if I wanted.

My sister recently took a trip to Melbourne and the first very coin she received in change was a Spanish 50 Eurocent coin instead of AUD$1.  I think it happened at the airport.  I guess that is the price they pay for putting out so many commemoratives!

New Zealand coins and banknotes circulate in the Cook Islands alongside the Cook Islands Dollar currency which is pegged to the NZD.  The Cook Islands has some really cool coins by the way, I just wish someone would take a trip there soon and bring me back another hoard...

a lot are in parity with the pound and dollar but they aren't equal in terms of value; the mother nation has a stronger value !

Thank you for the info

Looking at older coins,

A lot of coins based on size are at par with British mainland coins. For example, 20c, 10c, and 50m from Malaya, Australia, and Cyprus, respectively are the same size as a shilling or "new" 5p.

You guys probably figured that out already.

I both found and used USA cents, nickels, dimes and even quarters in Canada. Haven't tried it the other way around while travelling to States. Mostly because I'm there for business and use credit card so I get reimbursed without worrying about the exchange rate. Dollar coins would like get noticed.

Before the Euro introduction UK pound coinage frequently circulated in Ireland, despite the equivalence of our two currencies ending in the seventies. Even managed to come across a few Isle of Man (https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces7340.html), Jersey (https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces3480.html), and Guernsey (https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces8683.html) coins in my change never found anything from farther afield like Gibraltar or the Falklands unfortunately

The Channel Islands coins aren't that special over here, but Gibraltar although it's often found is a bit more special lol. I haven't had anything for years other than that IOM Christmas 50 pence, as I've mentioned before, though my absolute prize coin is the St. Helena & Ascension £1 I got - even Falklands money isn't really anything to that IMO - it's 2 tiny islands in the middle of nowhere !

In the olden days of the empire, coins were pretty much standard sizes but were still lesser value to the GBP for instance..

I recently just got that Bahamas penny, cool as it may be it's only the size of a British half penny.

I've had people handed me Canadian quarter in Seattle, and Canadian 5c in Detroit or around (both near the Canadian border). I've tried to put them into vending machines and they didn't work! Must have something to do with metal composition and size differences (very slightly).

And I am sure US Dollar is not accepted in Australia, New Zealand. The exchange rate is very far from 1:1.

Quote: lbillowsHere in New Zealand we used to regularly get Australian 5c, 10c and occasionally 20c coins in our change as they were the same size and weight as their Australian counterparts.  I'm sure it didn't help that they both bear the effigy of Elizabeth on the obverse. It was such a widespread and commonplace practice that I think most people thought they were legal tender and shopkeepers readily accepted them (after all the Australian dollar is worth more than the NZD)  Our lower value coinage was changed in 2006 so this doesn't happen anymore, however our current 10c coin has a striking resemblance to the British 1p coin and although I haven't found any in my change I'm sure I could pass a few pennies off as 10c coins if I wanted.

My sister recently took a trip to Melbourne and the first very coin she received in change was a Spanish 50 Eurocent coin instead of AUD$1.  I think it happened at the airport.  I guess that is the price they pay for putting out so many commemoratives!

New Zealand coins and banknotes circulate in the Cook Islands alongside the Cook Islands Dollar currency which is pegged to the NZD.  The Cook Islands has some really cool coins by the way, I just wish someone would take a trip there soon and bring me back another hoard...

Hi buddy, I'm going to the cooks in December.  I'm also from NZ so I can bring back a whole lot if you want.  Send me a message to let me know what you're after.

Would you get me some cooks and ill buy em from ya ? I'm really lacking in the cooks "/

Sure, If we get there (haven't fully decided whether to spend our 10th wedding anniversary in the Cooks or Samoa)  I'll bring back a pile of coins.  Send me a PM to let me know what sort of coins you're after.

Great ! Even Samoa, with it being part of the commonwealth I like too have coins from them all I have one  coin from there a crown sized coin commemorating the commonwealth games it may be a 1 sisqo or something ? :S

the next time any of you are in new zealand, ask for foreign currency, I got numerous pound coins, a 2 dollar triangular cooks islands piece and many more.

common foreign circ in canada include: 5 romanian bani, american (dollar and half not included), ive seen 2 euro coins circulate... trinidad and tobago 25 cent, 10 centavos cuba, saudi 10 fils, euro cents, and philipine 1 pisos...

ive once received 2 phillipine 1 piso coins in america, coin dealers also told me that this was common because 1 piso doesnt equal a quarter and is lower, therefore ppl bring em back from the philis and use em as qurters.

BTW, anyone know if 5 euro coins are able to circulate in the eurozone?

eg. french euro - 5 euros 2008 la semeuse

I want a triangle 2 dolla!

Quote: 15turtlesBTW, anyone know if 5 euro coins are able to circulate in the eurozone?

eg. french euro - 5 euros 2008 la semeuse

Coins that are more than 2€ are avilable in their countries only.
In france you can pay with coins from 5€ to 5000€ (but from 100€ to 5000€ it's gold coins   )

https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces5914.mobile.html#

I got this in my change twice recently..

recently found two separate Panama 10 cent in change in the US.

Quote: 15turtlesthe next time any of you are in new zealand, ask for foreign currency, I got numerous pound coins, a 2 dollar triangular cooks islands piece and many more.

common foreign circ in canada include: 5 romanian bani, american (dollar and half not included), ive seen 2 euro coins circulate... trinidad and tobago 25 cent, 10 centavos cuba, saudi 10 fils, euro cents, and philipine 1 pisos...

ive once received 2 phillipine 1 piso coins in america, coin dealers also told me that this was common because 1 piso doesnt equal a quarter and is lower, therefore ppl bring em back from the philis and use em as qurters.

Where from?  At the bank?

Bank and McDonalds hate the meals but love the coins.

Quote: alastairI did a little study a while back where I would go almost on a daily basis to the post office and ask for £30 change in pound coins then I would search through the change looking for fakes. I found quite a few and not just fakes but coins from the isle of man Guernsey and jersey none of these are legal tender but I argue that any money given to me by the post office which is a state run and mostly state owned company is by default legal tender as if not the state is guilty of stealing from me through deception which is quite a serious crime. If I have the right to spend these coins then shop keepers have the right to hand them out as change and the recipients then have the right to spend or bank them this in turn means that all fake pound coins or coins from the British Isles are by default legal tender until the state stops putting them back into circulation.

Old post above, but interesting. In Scotland, the only legal tender is the £1 and the £2 coins. The rest of the UK coinage used is not legal tender, neither is any of the multitude of banknotes that Royal bank of Scotland, Bank of Scotland of Clydesdale bank issues. Neither are English bank notes, but they are quite a rare sight in Scotland.

Even so the economy somehow functions without problems.