The first 2019 additions to my collection have arrived too, and looks like I'm starting the year off on the right foot:
1932 R San Marino 20 Lire https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces24563.html
Pro tip, always befriend your coin dealers; I paid an extremely reasonable price, of well under 50 euro, for this lovely coin! This type was struck on the same unusual planchets their contemporary "Littore" 20 lire coins of Italy are also struck on, and it has a mintage of only 10,000 too.
Also a few military medals, the silver one, issued for French troops in the Second War of Italian Unification (1859), is missing its ribbon (I've ordered a replacement on Ebay), while the other one is the Italian WWI Inter-Allied Victory Medal; I already had the French and British medals, and I've decided to look for the rest of them now.
And finally an old Italian 10 Lire note dating from 1892; again gotten for an outrageously low price, less than 20 euro:
I'm very happy today cause I just received a long-wanted type. I purchased it last year... well 4 days ago.
I've been looking forward to find one in a decent condition that fits into my budget for more than a year and here it is. The legends are fully readable, the mint (Bruxelles, angel's head) and date readable, the planchet is quite regular for the type, the lion looks good and it has some eye-appeal. These escalins are common but often struck poorly and partially readable. It's obviously not the ideal specimen, but I believe the price (25€ including shipping) was fair regarding its condition (i'd say a good F?).
First, this 1936 10 Lire "Imperatore":
This new design was launched in 1936 as part of a re-design of all Italian coins after Mussolini's conquest of Ethiopia the same year; the title "Imperatore" (Emperor [of Ethiopia]) was added to VEIII's titles on the obverse. Still looking for the "Familia" 5 Lire to complete the fascist-era circulating silver types!
Another interwar 10 Lire, this one from the Vatican- nothing too special.
My favourite coin acquisition this week; this is a 2 lire issued in Florence in 1860, in the midst of the Risorgimento. At the time Florence (Tuscany) and the surrounding regions had just been annexed via plebiscite to Sardinia-Piedmont in the aftermath of the Second War of Italian Independence, so this coin, minted for the newly annexed provinces, bears the title "Re Eletto".
At just 19 euro, not bad (even if it did once have a solder on the edge that I only noticed when I went to inspect and purchase the coin in person at Moruzzi) at all! This coin has a 89 NRI, and a R2 rating in the Gigante catalogue, and I am nonetheless proud to have it in my collection.
And also some Italian banknotes:
5 Lire from 1874, the first issue of government banknotes from a unified Italy. Dealer gave it away for free because it was torn into two, but a bit of tape and I still have a nice old banknote.
Also this set of January 1918 provisional banknotes from 5 centesimi to 20 lire (Missing the rarer 100 and 1000 lire notes!), that were issued during the Austro-Hungarian occupation of northern Veneto after Italy's retreat at the Battle of Caporetto in late 1917.
And finally, two giant Italian banknotes (both around 240x125mm!), the 5000 and 10,000 Lire "Repubbliche Marinare" notes, issued in 1955 and 1949 respectively. Normally prohibitively expensive, but I got this shabbier pair for only 30 euro each from a friend, and added to my collection two of the most beautiful Italian banknote issues ever. The reclining personifications are of Venice (left) and Genoa (right), hence the name of the series.
Last but not least, two more Italian military medals from WWI:
(that I was inspired to get by visiting the Museo del Risorgimento in the Vittoriano yesterday)
I went to the flea market at the Porta Portese yesterday; most of the stalls were selling second hand clothes, shoes (bought a new pair of trainers for 20 euro!), etc. but there were a few shops selling coins. Not more than four or five out of about 150 though, so I wouldn't say this place is worth visiting if you're after coins (there's only one dealer who had any silver at all) but I still got some nice things:
Two silvers only; but at an unbeatable price, the silver rupee has been polished to hell and back but I got it for literally melt value (5 euro), while the José Marti Peso is pretty common, but hard to find one that isn't overpriced (I saw many being sold around 30-45 euro, while I got mine for less than 20).
I have officially begun collecting pre-WWII Vatican City coins as well, after getting a few nickel 1930s Pius XI coins today (I also got a regular issue 50 centesimi, in addition to the 1933 Jubilee type posted above).
And finally, one more Italian military medal from WWI:
Most historians today agree the Risorgimento ended in 1870 with the capture of Rome, but the reverse of the medal showcases the perspective of Italian nationalists of the time, some of whom viewed Italy's participation in WWI against Austria-Hungary in the Alps as the "Fourth" War of Italian Unification.
My medal came with a certificate of issue too, dated 21 Luglio (July) 1922:
Quote: "CassTaylor"The first 2019 additions to my collection have arrived too, and looks like I'm starting the year off on the right foot:
1932 R San Marino 20 Lire
https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces24563.html
Pro tip, always befriend your coin dealers; I paid an extremely reasonable price, of well under 50 euro, for this lovely coin! This type was struck on the same unusual planchets their contemporary "Littore" 20 lire coins of Italy are also struck on, and it has a mintage of only 10,000 too.
Also a few military medals, the silver one, issued for French troops in the Second War of Italian Unification (1859), is missing its ribbon (I've ordered a replacement on Ebay), while the other one is the Italian WWI Inter-Allied Victory Medal; I already had the French and British medals, and I've decided to look for the rest of them now.
And finally an old Italian 10 Lire note dating from 1892; again gotten for an outrageously low price, less than 20 euro:
WOOO-WEEE?
UNDER 50 euros?
Wow! And it looks like an excellent coin!
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I collect anything: If it's Italian or Italian states i collect it even more!
I thought you'd be more interested in the price I got for my 1860 2 Lire!
Yeah, I keep an eye out for good prices, and I seize one when I see one. I'm very proud of some of the prices I was given/found/haggled my way to this time in Italy- guess you could call it the art of the deal.
P.S. Something I've been meaning to ask you, do you collect Italian banknotes as well as coins?
Quote: "CassTaylor"I thought you'd be more interested in the price I got for my 1860 2 Lire!
Yeah, I keep an eye out for good prices, and I seize one when I see one. I'm very proud of some of the prices I was given/found/haggled my way to this time in Italy- guess you could call it the art of the deal.
P.S. Something I've been meaning to ask you, do you collect Italian banknotes as well as coins?
I'm more impressed by the price-condition ratio of the 20 lire, for the 2 lire...
I might have waited for a better coin, the price is excellent, but the condition lascia da desirare! Although they are RARE above XF, decent examples with legitimate circulation can be found at reasonable price points.
I collect anything: If it's Italian or Italian states i collect it even more!
That was basically all that was going through my head when I bought it. For me price is the key deciding factor (besides authenticity, of course), and as a type collector condition can take a back seat.
Indeed it was, I'm still surprised that this type, even in this condition was under 20 euro at all. Looking through the archives on lamoneta.it: https://numismatica-italiana.lamoneta.it/passaggi/W-REE/11-0?k=2 it seems like someone got this type back in 2013 for a little under 30 euro, but their coin is far more worn, as well as being deliberately modified to look like the Kingdom issue (although less water damage and no solder vestige).
But both our coins' prices seem to be the exception rather than the norm, since the next cheapest one there is 66 euro, followed by 92 euro.
Norway - 20 and 10 Kroner coins 1995 and 2000
1 Krone - 1991
25 Ore 1962 and 1979
Russia - Steel rouble set 1992/93 - 1, 5, 10, 20 and 50 rouble coins
USSR - 1, 2, 3, 5, 10,15, 20 Kopecks all dated 1961 or 1962 except 1982 5 kopecks and 1974 3 Kopeka
South Africa - 1934 Penny GVF and 1940 ½d VF,
I love coins. Especially silver, gold and anything really old.
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And I bought 3 of these beauties, just nice designed coins and so cheap.
And about to take possession of this lot. Not a bad set, the Poltnik (50 Kopeck is worn) but the rouble is decent and the lower silver coins are stunning.
I love coins. Especially silver, gold and anything really old.
Member of the Royal Numismatic Society of New Zealand and the Auckland Numismatic Society
Bought an insane amount of random world paper money from a nice dealer at the Izmaylovo Vernisage on January 5th.
Most of it was from the 10 ruble (~15 cent) bargain bins, but a few notes were more expensive than that. In total I paid 1500 rubles ($23 or thereabouts).
There are way too many to take photos of all of them (I'm talking 70+ notes here), so instead, here's a map of the represented countries - click on the thumbnail to see it better...
Color meaning: blue - 1, green - 2, yellow - 3, orange - 4 or 5. Red was supposed to be 6+, but I don't think it ever came up. Doubles not counted (there were a few, bought for swapping). Counts might be slightly off.
Not pictured: Biafra, Serbian Krajina (one each), Yugoslavia (about half a dozen). A note from the United Arab Republic was counted for Egypt.
Also not pictured, but might be added later: whatever I already have (most of it was misplaced anyway).
Some Indonesian islands are missing because I couldn't find East Timor anywhere and wasn't sure which islands were Indonesian and which weren't.
(I do have a note from there - well, from Portuguese Timor, anyway - but it was bought much earlier.)
Other islands might be missing because I didn't realize they were the same country.
'Unusual coin - Obv: Edward VII Penny - Rev: Victoria Gothic Florin' https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces857.html = 1 Penny 30.8 mm https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces4840.html = 1 Florin 30.0 mm
Described by the seller as 'Almost certainly a unique novelty coin of some age and in neat craftsmanship to marriage a Edward VII bronze penny 1902-1910 with a silver Victoria Gothic Florin 1851-1887.
Just a great numismatic oddity with no great value but good fun conversation piece'.
Other than "roubles" floating upwards and heavy dings on the reverse, I'm happy to finally have this coin.
Unless its fake that is, but from what I've looked at I'm sure its authentic, and I would really appreciate any information that proves it either way. I only ask as I've heard there are plenty of counterfeits on the market, and that they even find their way into slabs on occasion.
I think I have started the year quite well with these goodies.
I won these on a bid for $8 AUD at my local coin club auction.
I bought this set at the same auction for another $8 AUD after it was turned in with no bids.
These came in a sale from New Zealand with our very own Neil.
And this is the latest addition to my slowly growing box collection.
Hand made and stained it was completed yesterday and now holds all my common excesses coins that aren't in my albums.
Quote: "neilithicman"I just picked up a nice lot of 10 sterling british florins dating from the 1870s-1918. There's a nice 1908 Edward VII one the looks to be a solid VF.
The One in top row right is probably VF, but I grade hard and would say gFine or aVG - It is jsut a bit too worn on Eddie and lacks any lustre. The two bottom ones are full Fines as well
Overall a lovely lot, those gothic florins are very hard not to find completely worn and yours are decent VG examples. I got one which is just a flat disc.
I love coins. Especially silver, gold and anything really old.
Member of the Royal Numismatic Society of New Zealand and the Auckland Numismatic Society
Quote: "neilithicman"I just picked up a nice lot of 10 sterling british florins dating from the 1870s-1918. There's a nice 1908 Edward VII one the looks to be a solid VF.
The One in top row right is probably VF, but I grade hard and would say gFine or aVG - It is jsut a bit too worn on Eddie and lacks any lustre. The two bottom ones are full Fines as well
Overall a lovely lot, those gothic florins are very hard not to find completely worn and yours are decent VG examples. I got one which is just a flat disc.
You must grade bloody hard because that florin is pretty much textbook VF. The ear, the hair and beard still has detail on it, you can see the detail on the shield, and you can make out all the fingers on than hand of Britannia that is holding the trident.
Quote: "Moneytane"
And about to take possession of this lot. Not a bad set, the Poltnik (50 Kopeck is worn) but the rouble is decent and the lower silver coins are stunning.
These babies finally arrived, the Rouble and Poltnik are pretty worn but clean and neat coins. The 4 low value coins are beyond stunning - AU/UNC stuff, they must have hardly been used. Anyway its a goal ticked off, some imperial Russian coins beyond copper kopecks, dengas and polushkas. The rouble is a real prize, such a thick coin compared to other European coins of the era. Perhaps Leitwolf can come along and call it Junk silver as its worn and common in Europe.
I love coins. Especially silver, gold and anything really old.
Member of the Royal Numismatic Society of New Zealand and the Auckland Numismatic Society
Quote: "neilithicman"I just picked up a nice lot of 10 sterling british florins dating from the 1870s-1918. There's a nice 1908 Edward VII one the looks to be a solid VF.
The One in top row right is probably VF, but I grade hard and would say gFine or aVG - It is jsut a bit too worn on Eddie and lacks any lustre. The two bottom ones are full Fines as well
Overall a lovely lot, those gothic florins are very hard not to find completely worn and yours are decent VG examples. I got one which is just a flat disc.
You must grade bloody hard because that florin is pretty much textbook VF. The ear, the hair and beard still has detail on it, you can see the detail on the shield, and you can make out all the fingers on than hand of Britannia that is holding the trident.
Sorry its the ex teacher in me. I was looking at it bad light. The shield and robe have more detail than I thought, its VF, may even be VF+ Sorry Neil. Anyway I hope you picked up I though t they are nice coins. Edward Florins are hard to get in any condition.
My British florin selection is laughable in comparison, several cupronickel ones, a VF 1942, a VG 1933 a G 1921 (Even worse as its a 50% silver one which has gone green like most worn 50% silver coins) and a Victorian gothic florin of indeterminate date as I can barely see anything.
I love coins. Especially silver, gold and anything really old.
Member of the Royal Numismatic Society of New Zealand and the Auckland Numismatic Society
I usually only post the "good stuff" I get here, but today thanks to a swap with a Latvian member, I was able to actually complete my type collection from my first European country (Latvia). That's one example of every non-pattern coin type from Latvia minted during the period I collect from (1815-1945).
This isn't that impressive of an achievement, because there are only 11 such coins from their interwar period of independence (1918-40), none of which are gold, or particularly rare or expensive to find; but it does show that type collecting is actually an achievable goal! I've been working on Hungary in particular, where I've almost done the same for my type collection of the Krona and Pengö currencies.
Hungary 10 krajczar 1870 KB.
Hungary 1/2 kreuzer 1816 A.
Hungary 1 kreuzer 1868 KB.
Albrecht of Brandenburg 1 gross 1547.
Austria 2 corona 1913.
Austria 5/10 kreuzer 1885.
Just went to Masterton for the day not expecting to get much but I came home with some silver coins to go towards completing my silver UK, NZ and South Africa collections plus a few other circulation coins but some are low mintage.
- New Zealand 6 pence 1933
- New Zealand 6 pence 1934
- New Zealand 6 pence 1935
- New Zealand 6 pence 1936
- New Zealand 1 shilling 1933
- New Zealand 1 shilling 1934
- New Zealand 1/2 crown 1941
- South Africa 2 1/2 shillings 1940
- United Kingdom 6 pence 1940
- United Kingdom 1 shilling 1942
- United Kingdom 2 shillings 1942
- United Kingdom 2 shillings 1944
A couple more silvers to round off an awesome month for my collection:
The Mexican one has a solder "scar", but I got for literally less than half of scrap value (3 euro!) while I had to pay a bit more for the Straits half, but still a very reasonable price for this type.
Not silver, but a magnificent Kutchi coin- I think this is my largest holed coin! (at 36mm diameter)
And finally, a big and beautiful Italian banknote to complete my denomination/type series for the fascist era; a 1938 Mietitrice 500 Lire:
Quote: "Roublizer"
Other than "roubles" floating upwards and heavy dings on the reverse, I'm happy to finally have this coin.
Unless its fake that is, but from what I've looked at I'm sure its authentic, and I would really appreciate any information that proves it either way. I only ask as I've heard there are plenty of counterfeits on the market, and that they even find their way into slabs on occasion.
Wow! I can't believe no one else has commented on this one!
A platinum coin is very much on my "dreams" list!
I collect anything: If it's Italian or Italian states i collect it even more!
Quote: "CassTaylor"
[...] while I had to pay a bit more for the Straits half, but still a very reasonable price for this type.
These coins are quite expensive (or at least their trending value is quite high) although there seems to be a reasonable supply of them on the market. NGC provides values only for VF XF and MS, but how reliable those values are I don't know.
Quote: "CassTaylor"Not silver, but a magnificent Kutchi coin- I think this is my largest holed coin! (at 36mm diameter)
kutch coins are indeed quite beautiful, especially the machine struck pieces; very deep and medal like. This one is a half Anna (aadhi oh) with the Vikram Samvat calendar 1999. You have to go back 57 years to translate it to AD 1942. On the one side you have the Nagari (Hindi) script and on the other side the Persian/Urdu script. The nagari script says “Maharao Shri Vijayrajji Savai Bahadur”. Not sure what they Persian side says, but I can guess it’s a transliteration if the Hindi version. Kutch found itself on the border of what would become India and Pakistan. It had a significant population of muslims too and hence the bilingual coin. It’s part of the western most area of Present day Gujurat state in India and was among the first princely states to opt voluntarily (and enthusiastically) to join the Indian union and indeed even issued a commemorative coin to that effect. The dagger, trident/trishul and moon are a sure reference to Lord Shiva who must have been the main presiding Diety for the Royal Family
Quote: "Roublizer"
Other than "roubles" floating upwards and heavy dings on the reverse, I'm happy to finally have this coin.
Unless its fake that is, but from what I've looked at I'm sure its authentic, and I would really appreciate any information that proves it either way. I only ask as I've heard there are plenty of counterfeits on the market, and that they even find their way into slabs on occasion.
Wow! I can't believe no one else has commented on this one!
A platinum coin is very much on my "dreams" list!
It's been one of my dream coins for a long time as well. Before I started posting on the forum, my avatar was a 3 rouble coin. They always seem to come to market at the wrong time for me, but luckily for the last 3 months of 2018 I didn't make too many purchases or pay unexpected bills so it left me in a good position to get it.
Quote: "CassTaylor"
[...] while I had to pay a bit more for the Straits half, but still a very reasonable price for this type.
These coins are quite expensive (or at least their trending value is quite high) although there seems to be a reasonable supply of them on the market. NGC provides values only for VF XF and MS, but how reliable those values are I don't know.
Yeah, I always wondered why the Victoria 50 cents was so scarce (final price I paid for this one was 15 euro). The early Edwardian Straits issues are also particularly hard to find (1902-05); it seems like those were made of higher content (.800) silver than the following silver issues (.600), so I presume they were hoarded by people when the new coins came out midway through Edward VII's reign.
As for NGC I've given up using it for any coins with a value of more than 10 euro; sometimes it's massively overpriced (like with Italian LMU coins), other times it's massively underpriced (such as with Chinese Republican Dollars). Go home NGC, you're drunk.
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kutch coins are indeed quite beautiful, especially the machine struck pieces....
Definitely, I've been looking to get a big silver 5 Kori from Kutch, but an affordable one slipped right between my fingers just last year.... alongside Baroda and Hyderabad, Kutch is probably the easiest IPS to get coins from, at least in Europe.
Ah, OK, so I'm not the only one who seriously doubts the accuracy of NGC prices.
Whatever may be the case, even low grade, 15€ is a pretty good price. It looks like some of those issues, just like some Canadian and Newfoundland silver issues, wore quickly on the reverse because they came out convex in the minting process, so the central part of the design was exposed (e.g. if you put it flat on a hard surface, the center would touch, not just the rim).
The switch to .600 silver is an interesting observation, but it remains that the .800 silver ones do not seem that rare either. If they were hoarded but not melted, then the higher grades should be relatively easy to find, but it's quite the opposite: the value seems to multiply by 3.5 between VF and XF.
Those 50c coins are ridiculously rare over here. The 10c coins are common, the 20c turn up every now and then, but I've hardly ever seen the 50c up for sale.
Quote: "Roublizer"
Other than "roubles" floating upwards and heavy dings on the reverse, I'm happy to finally have this coin.
Unless its fake that is, but from what I've looked at I'm sure its authentic, and I would really appreciate any information that proves it either way. I only ask as I've heard there are plenty of counterfeits on the market, and that they even find their way into slabs on occasion.
Wow! I can't believe no one else has commented on this one!
A platinum coin is very much on my "dreams" list!
I don't think it might be fake. Very nice, rare and famous coin!
My personal list of scammers from Numista: erniemix, yvain, CassTaylor
Quote: "ashlobo"
kutch coins are indeed quite beautiful, especially the machine struck pieces....
Definitely, I've been looking to get a big silver 5 Kori from Kutch, but an affordable one slipped right between my fingers just last year.... alongside Baroda and Hyderabad, Kutch is probably the easiest IPS to get coins from, at least in Europe.
You forget the Udaipur (Mewar) "Dosti London" silver set. Those are absolutely stunning. A little over a decade ago I would find the kutch 5kori coins in Xf-AU for around Rs250-400 ($5-8$) plenty. Those days are long gone of course
Quote: "neilithicman"Those 50c coins are ridiculously rare over here. The 10c coins are common, the 20c turn up every now and then, but I've hardly ever seen the 50c up for sale.
Interesting. I've seen a few of the Victorian 50¢ here, but now that I think about it, pretty much always from the same Canadian auction house on eBay.
To get a sense of degree of commonness or rarity, I usually start with eBay (via picclick), where there's a fair number of these coins. Admittedly, there are many different dates, and the demand for British colonials is greater than, say, for Lithuanian old and new litas. Still, the prices in the hundred(s) of US dollars seem difficult to justify...
Got these yesterday, so I’ll put them under January. Nice mix of coins from Bolivia, Ukraine, Peru, Phillipines, Australia, Yugoslavia, Uruguay, USA and Eastern Carib. States
Only a few coins added in January - saving my pennies for the next big show in March.
Germany, Empire - 1 Pfennig 1894-A
Italy - 10 Euro Cent (1st map) 2002 R
Morocco - 5 Dirhams - Moulay al-Hasan I 1299 (1882) Pa
Portugal - 10 Centavos 1915 and 50 Centavos 1926
USSR - 3 Kopecks (11 ribbons) 1940
Also ordered a couple commemoratives (Apollo 11 50th Anniversary silver $1 and clad half) from the US Mint, but it's probably going to be another week or two before I see them. This is only the 2nd time US Mint is releasing curved coins (the 1st was the National Baseball Hall of Fame coins back in 2014), so I'm anticipating they're going to be a popular item among collectors and hopefully go up in price. Would not be surprised if they sell out, especially the gold $5 and the 5 oz silver $1 because of their lower mintage maximums.