Numista Banknotes
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I doubt it, but if these guys are still keen we might actually be able to get our Notista project rolling in 2019!
And to be honest, I absolutely LOVE what I am seeing here!
I get the illusion we are getting somewhere and I have 1,000+ pics for Notista to use! 
(as long as a pic with signature will do, that is. Otherwise I have about 10 
). I also have obverse/reverse info + watermark for all of my 1,500+ notes in my collection. Also, I can be referee for all countries! 
Quote: "Morgenritter - Posted: 26-Sep-2015, 09:11PM"Give me the go and I will start working on it.
Quote: "dptashnyPosted: 27-Sep-2015, 04:27PM"If there are no objections to Numisnote, I'll buy it.
And to be honest, I absolutely LOVE what I am seeing here!
Quote: "CassTaylor - Posted: 19-Apr-2018, 05:18AM"I had way too much free time so I went and rustled up a little something...YES, YES, YES!!
https://en.notista.com/catalogue/billets1.html
It's just done using Paintbrush, the address is fake and it's pretty crude since I didn't bother matching fonts etc. but it gets the point across, the Numista format is a winner and it would certainly be a shame if we couldn't use it for sister sites.
I get the illusion we are getting somewhere and I have 1,000+ pics for Notista to use! (as long as a pic with signature will do, that is. Otherwise I have about 10 ). I also have obverse/reverse info + watermark for all of my 1,500+ notes in my collection. Also, I can be referee for all countries!
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Quote: "ngdawa"Also, I can be referee for all countries!Save some for me!
I'm all for helping build Notista, so I can get my banknotes collection off Colnect ASAP, but what exactly is it that we're missing? Copyright permission from Xavier, someone who can do the programming, or something else?
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Quote: "CassTaylor"haha! okay, we can split them 50/50
Quote: "ngdawa"Also, I can be referee for all countries!Save some for me!
Quote: "CassTaylor"what exactly is it that we're missing? Copyright permission from Xavier, someone who can do the programming, or something else?i'd say..all the above?
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Quote: "Oklahoman"Hear Hear!
what's sad us that the coin people here at Numista might be imagining that their are as many types and years of banknotes as their are coins. I think they would be surprised at just how quick we could build the database.
To be fair, some countries (e.g. France) would have far fewer banknote listings than coins, while others (like the US, where before 1862 literally thousands of local banks issued their own currency) would have far more banknotes listed than coins.
It also depends on how we list them (e.g. over on Colnect they list French banknotes by date printed- this is like having each year line on a coin page be its own coin page, while I would rather see them listed by type only (which would be a lot easier)). And of course if we list banknotes on Numista there would be some issuers with only coins, and some issuers with only notes (e.g. German South West Africa).
But that's all irrelevant really, when you consider the work that we're all willing to put into it, so the sooner we can get an organised movement going, for either banknotes on Numista or a parallel site "Notista", the better.
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Quote: "ngdawa"Makes sense to me- we often have sub KM#s (e.g. KM#5.1 and 5.2) on the same coin page here on Numista as well, with exceptions like different metal composition.
Quote: "CassTaylor"It also depends on how we list them (e.g. over on Colnect they list French banknotes by date printed- this is like having each year line on a coin page be its own coin page, while I would rather see them listed by type only (which would be a lot easier))Agree! Since we already have date lists in the coin pages, this should also be implented to the banknote pages. The problem here is, though, that in SCWC each banknote is listed by year, so year 2000 will be P-1 and year 2001 will become P-1a. This could make the date list look messy with all needed notes, since most banknotes even will need a note how to even read the date. Maybe these sub-numbers should be ignored and only the main number, in my example P-1, be taken account for.
It makes me kind of sad we're discussing this like it's about to happen, when it hasn't even gotten off the ground yet... what's Xavier's position on all this?
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Quote: "CassTaylor"It makes me kind of sad we're discussing this like it's about to happen, when it hasn't even gotten off the ground yet... what's Xavier's position on all this?Yeah, me too. But I reckon that it might be easier to fulfill this dream by having a clear pocture of how we want it. If Xavier's not that keen, but we basically give him all answeres to questions he hasn't even thought of yet, and we say This is what we want, it might be easier to get it.
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Quote: "Oklahoman"If we had a field where the collector could type in their serial numbers then they could use the site for an insurance inventory. Could search by fancy serials...hehe! that's a nice idea, but i don't know if that'd be enough for the isurance company..i reckon it's better to photograph them all, so you can show what you really have..anyone can write a serial number..
anyhow, i still like the idea to type in your own serial number!
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Quote: "ngdawa"If anyone needs to record their serial numbers then they could do it in the "private comments" field when they enter their notes into their collection. It's what I do for the serial numbers on my slabbed coins.
Quote: "Oklahoman"If we had a field where the collector could type in their serial numbers then they could use the site for an insurance inventory. Could search by fancy serials...
anyhow, i still like the idea to type in your own serial number!
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Quote: "CassTaylor"Well, that is true..
Quote: "ngdawa"If anyone needs to record their serial numbers then they could do it in the "private comments" field when they enter their notes into their collection. It's what I do for the serial numbers on my slabbed coins.
Quote: "Oklahoman"If we had a field where the collector could type in their serial numbers then they could use the site for an insurance inventory. Could search by fancy serials...
anyhow, i still like the idea to type in your own serial number!
I just thought that there are people who are tracking what kind of serial numbers there are (highest and lowest known, highest and lowest prefix/suffix letters, etc.). Therefore it might be interesting to have them publicly shown as well.
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Okay, more ideas; if nothing at least this can turn into a very informative thread for banknote collectors.
In banknotes, the equivalent to mints for coins would be printing facilities. For example; in the UK, instead of the Heaton and King's Norton mints, for banknotes we have Waterlow & Sons, and Thomas de la Rue, both companies that took contracts and printed banknotes for other countries (just like the mints!). Usually the printing facility of a banknote can be found in the bottom margin on the front of a note, so this too should be included in the box of specifications (along with date, issuer, designer, face value, etc.).
Similarly you'd think banknote catalogues have no need for a "material" field, but aside from the modern polymer notes, different notes in the past used different "paper"; few notes were actually issued on Paper, and those were mostly cheap notes like emergency issues from Iloilo in the Philippines during WWII. Most banknotes were made out of a blend of linen and cotton; if you compare a pre-1960s French banknote with an American note, the paper is clearly different. Only problem is these differences in composition are often not as well documented as coins' composition, and often lost to time.....
In banknotes, the equivalent to mints for coins would be printing facilities. For example; in the UK, instead of the Heaton and King's Norton mints, for banknotes we have Waterlow & Sons, and Thomas de la Rue, both companies that took contracts and printed banknotes for other countries (just like the mints!). Usually the printing facility of a banknote can be found in the bottom margin on the front of a note, so this too should be included in the box of specifications (along with date, issuer, designer, face value, etc.).
Similarly you'd think banknote catalogues have no need for a "material" field, but aside from the modern polymer notes, different notes in the past used different "paper"; few notes were actually issued on Paper, and those were mostly cheap notes like emergency issues from Iloilo in the Philippines during WWII. Most banknotes were made out of a blend of linen and cotton; if you compare a pre-1960s French banknote with an American note, the paper is clearly different. Only problem is these differences in composition are often not as well documented as coins' composition, and often lost to time.....
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Quote: "ngdawa"Let's start by looking for someone who can do website building; I suspect we'll need something more than wix.com.
Quote: "Salaction"I think we should get this started! I can't make websites, but very much willingly to help filling the database!i'm with you, mate! we've been trying this since 2015, and this is the furthest we've come so far..
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Quote: "CassTaylor"Any volunteers? I mean who built Numista? If it's going to be a sister site it should be built in the style of Numista, right?
Quote: "ngdawa"Let's start by looking for someone who can do website building; I suspect we'll need something more than wix.com.
Quote: "Salaction"I think we should get this started! I can't make websites, but very much willingly to help filling the database!i'm with you, mate! we've been trying this since 2015, and this is the furthest we've come so far..
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Quote: "Salaction"it's xavier who built numista..
Quote: "CassTaylor"Any volunteers? I mean who built Numista? If it's going to be a sister site it should be built in the style of Numista, right?
Quote: "ngdawa"Let's start by looking for someone who can do website building; I suspect we'll need something more than wix.com.
Quote: "Salaction"I think we should get this started! I can't make websites, but very much willingly to help filling the database!i'm with you, mate! we've been trying this since 2015, and this is the furthest we've come so far..
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Quote: "Salaction"I see, didn't know he also built the website :)Perhaps I could conjure up a little something with wix.com just as an "essai" for Notista?
So we gotta get him on our side? Or can someone else built a site numista style? :)
I read through some older threads, and Xavier says consistently that he has "no interest for now" in an equivalent banknotes site....
Also I resurrected my thread on the Free Discussion forum, so more people will see it and offer input hopefully.
https://en.numista.com/forum/topic69057.html
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