I have pulled a few defaced banknotes from circulation as they might have some historical value in the future. It would be interesting to see what else is out there.
Some of these are really interesting... I kinda want one of those US 1 Dollar notes with "In God We Trust" printed over with "E Pluribus Unum" and "Federal endorsement of a deity violates the U.S. Constitution" on it.
Kinda surprised that some of these banknotes you can pull from circulation. Are we talking about official alterations of banknotes (re-denominating, government change, etc.) or privately-made defacement (stamps and writing)? I have a few of either.
The USA notes are part of the Where’s George craze. The Chinese notes from my understanding were done by the Fulan Gang which is an outlawed anti government group. The Chinese notes are very illegal in China. The Thai note from my understanding was stamped by a temple that had received the note in a merit offering and contains a good luck wish to further recipients. Not sure of the legal status of the Thai notes. If anyone has any corrections on this please let me know.
I had this note at some point and asked here if it was some shady sign because criminal organisations do this some times but I was told it was most likely a casino or money exchanger.
Bank notes like your Algerian note fall in the heading of "short snorters" military personnel of all ranks would sign these for each other. Singles or taped together. I have them from China...Viet Nam...Laos...Europe...and I have seen them signed by Princes, Generals, government officials...i also save the notes where kids write their name and address and ask for penpals...
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Quote: "Oklahoman"Bank notes like your Algerian note fall in the heading of "short snorters" military personnel of all ranks would sign these for each other. Singles or taped together. I have them from China...Viet Nam...Laos...Europe...and I have seen them signed by Princes, Generals, government officials...i also save the notes where kids write their name and address and ask for penpals...
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I had this note at some point and asked here if it was some shady sign because criminal organisations do this some times but I was told it was most likely a casino or money exchanger.
When I left China with USA Hundreds I noticed many of them had similar stamps on them. I don’t have any more of them. Would be interesting if the stamps could be documented and provide a locale for where the money had been.
Quote: "Oklahoman"Bank notes like your Algerian note fall in the heading of "short snorters" military personnel of all ranks would sign these for each other. Singles or taped together. I have them from China...Viet Nam...Laos...Europe...and I have seen them signed by Princes, Generals, government officials...i also save the notes where kids write their name and address and ask for penpals...
Wow, thanks for the info! I knew soldiers would usually bring home and/or exchange mementos or souvenirs of sorts, but this is the first I've heard of the practice being as widespread as it seems to be.
I've also this Egyptian note from 1940:
In the bottom margin it says (upside down) "2/- N.Z. 100 10£"
I'm imagining someone of the New Zealand Expeditionary Force who served in North Africa during WWII making that quick notation.
Quote: "ngdawa"Never heard the phrase before but I guess I have some, if this is what you mean:
Macedonia
Bosnia
These would be considered provisional notes. They were authorized by the new governments that they served. I do not have these in my collection but would love to add them some day. They look great.
A while ago I saw a £5 where the Queen had a moustache, beard and Harry Potter scar (very professional) which looked as if it was Daniel Radcliff on a banknote.
'We make a living by what we get, we make a life by what we give.'
Sir Winston Churchill
Quote: "Oklahoman"Bank notes like your Algerian note fall in the heading of "short snorters" military personnel of all ranks would sign these for each other. Singles or taped together. I have them from China...Viet Nam...Laos...Europe...and I have seen them signed by Princes, Generals, government officials...i also save the notes where kids write their name and address and ask for penpals...
I have heard of one "short snorter" that brought record money at auction. It had the signatures of almost all the entire crew of the Enola Gay, signed just after they deplaned from dropping their atomic bomb. The only missing signature was that of the pilot, who had to go directly to debriefing.
I have owned some of the more common ones (one taped string had about 10 notes), but I do not think that I have any now. Generally, they are not expensive--unless there is a famous signature (like the World War I soldier's letters for which the censor was Harry S. Truman).
Quote: "blue-m"The USA notes are part of the Where’s George craze.
For those of you not familiar with the "Where's George" craze, one dollar bills were stamped with the address of a website. On that website, you entered the serial number of the note, and it gave you the tracking of where that note had been previously reported, and you could add your own location.
Canada One Dollar - signature and rubber stamped in green
I received some information that suggested this note may have been signed by Kenneth Elmer (born 24 April 1948) - a Canadian middle-distance runner. He competed in the men's 1500 metres at the 1972 Summer Olympics.
Quote: "halfdisme"That's not the White House, that is the Lincoln Memorial.
More fake news (lol)!
I cringe thinking about the day that a certain nameless person will demand that his properties in palm beach and nyc be included on the backs of banknotes. Talk about defacing currency.
Quote: "blue-m"I cringe thinking about the day that a certain nameless person will demand that his properties in palm beach and nyc be included on the backs of banknotes. Talk about defacing currency.
But... what if that person has "the best properties, tremendous properties, so many properties"?
SAD!
These last two posts are what people mean when you guys are blatantly political and then bitch when others present facts or wish to converse about stuff from the last 100 years. You shouldn't be able to be political jackasses because you have the misguided idea that everyone feels as you do. It's still politics and you are hypocritical to complain when others do it, and then engage in it yourself. Go make the catalog better I believe were your words...
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Tell me, where where you here, when this little forum gem blew up last weekend? Or, for that matter, in any of the dozens and dozens of old posts I've read spewing vitriol, conspiracy theories and straight up falsehoods?
I thought we could have a no politics status quo, but it appears the temptation was too great for a bellicose few to resist. In that case, please refrain from moralising until you can get the boot to fit on the other foot.
I certainly don't sit here and discuss world leaders. But we Americans have to endure a great deal of disrespect and political drivel directed at us because of our freely elected leader. It's just hypocritical.
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Aside from the mutual distaste we share for the aggressive behavior of the gentleman from Cyprus, and a love for the website, and beautiful coins of the world, we have very little in common. Well, I live in a former French possession. So there is that French connection... It is sometimes hard to see your viewpoint from the shadow cast by your own speech. I know that I can be part of the problem. I try to limit my responses and though I fail, I am successful a majority of the time. I don't know how it happened that you have cast yourself in opposition to some of my Numista friends. But if you claim it to be political speech than you should not use political speech either. I hope to meet lots of Numista friends. I have met several personally. Should you ever find yourself in this former French possession I would enjoy meeting you as well.
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Thank you for coming to the table and agreeing to meet with me halfway here, Oklahoman; it's a quality I really do appreciate, but seems to be sorely lacking in some of Numista's more readily disagreeable denizens.
Your self-limiting makes you so much easier to talk with than some. I think we can both agree also that regardless of whether the person behind the screen approves of X or not, as long as some self-control is exercised, we can live in blissful ignorance of whatever political opinions the other folks we share Numista with may happen to have.
Your points definitely aren't invalid; so I'm sure in the future (yourself being a Year 4 teacher) you can help calm tensions if an offending party with a chip on his shoulder next attempts to rattle his sabre at perceived transgressions by rule-abiding, decent forum-goers. I look forward to sharing that kind of Numista with more people like you instead, and I eagerly reciprocate your kind words in turn.
It was a common event during the second world war for military and non-military while drinking to sign bill's vowing to meet again after the war and drink with each other again, a desperate attempt at a hope for survival. I understòod that any defacement of money, coins or bill's in the country of origin is against the law. The 5 dollar canadian bill can be altered so that Laurier looks like Spock. It was easy to do on the paper ones a little harder on the plastic. Bank's quickly take them out of circulation.
A stamp on a Russian Empire 100 Roubles note from 1910; the stamp itself says "Trésorerie Génerale (du) Puy-de-Dôme", indicating a place in southern-central France.
Quote: "ngdawa"I had completely forgotten about this one. Will this one count, then?
If anyone had any info about this note, please let me know cuz I've found nothing.
Thanks!
I believe that is a "Marshall Josip Tito Death Stamp", he died in Ljubljana, Slovenia in 1980.
The China 1 Yuan is defaced by Falun Gong, a cult group who believes they'll be save by gods from Sirius galaxy on doomsday. They are conducting a lot of interesting anti-CCP propagandas from overseas. Next time I see those banknotes I'll collect and see how many versions are there.
Quote: "aephi"The China 1 Yuan is defaced by Falun Gong, a cult group who believes they'll be save by gods from Sirius galaxy on doomsday. They are conducting a lot of interesting anti-CCP propagandas from overseas. Next time I see those banknotes I'll collect and see how many versions are there.
before I had these 2 I had 5 others that I friend insisted on giving to the police so that I didn't get arrested having them in my possession. These two I have I kept hidden until I left China.