I don't know if it's something that Zimbabwe includes Rhodesia and Southern Rhodesia, but by searching for Rhodesia and Southern Rhodesia separately does not include each other. Maybe You just will have to add "Zimbabwe" in the Lettering field.
Edit: And if Zimbabwe includes Rhodesia and Southern Rhodesia, then the question is if this is intentionally, or a bug.
Quote: "ngdawa"I don't know if it's something that Zimbabwe includes Rhodesia and Southern Rhodesia, but by searching for Rhodesia and Southern Rhodesia separately does not include each other. Maybe You just will have to add "Zimbabwe" in the Lettering field.
Edit: And if Zimbabwe includes Rhodesia and Southern Rhodesia, then the question is if this is intentionally, or a bug.
When chosing the "second" Zimbabwe, I get correctly, it's only if chose the "first" that it goes haywire, where actually Rhodesia and Southern Rhodesia is included, which I still find strange? But OK, that's numista
Quote: "Sjoelund"When chosing the "second" Zimbabwe, I get correctly, it's only if chose the "first" that it goes haywire, where actually Rhodesia and Southern Rhodesia is included, which I still find strange? But OK, that's numista
Ole
Just the fact that there's two Zimbabwes is strange. But probably is the first Zimbabwe all of the below, Rhodesia, Southern Rhodesia, and Zimbabwe, while the second Zimbabwe is just Zimbabwe. And yeah, that's strange and should be corrected.
I'm sorry if I come across a bit dense but I can't see what the problem is. If you search for Zimbabwe you get two results - the primary field called Zimbabwe covers the modern country and all it's former regions/names while the secondary field called Zimbabwe delivers just the coins from modern Zimbabwe so you have the best of both worlds. Or am I missing something?
Just because you can't see it ... doesn't mean it isn't there - Anon.
Quote: "radrick007"I'm sorry if I come across a bit dense but I can't see what the problem is. If you search for Zimbabwe you get two results - the primary field called Zimbabwe covers the modern country and all it's former regions/names while the secondary field called Zimbabwe delivers just the coins from modern Zimbabwe so you have the best of both worlds. Or am I missing something?
To be logic Rhodesia and Nyasaland should then also be under Zimbabwe?
To follow that logic the Spain f.ex. should also include the Roman Empire and the Ottoman Empire, since they occupied the same area as Spain occupies now? That's making everything a bit complicated, I would say.
Quote: "Sjoelund"To be logic Rhodesia and Nyasaland should then also be under Zimbabwe?
To follow that logic the Spain f.ex. should also include the Roman Empire and the Ottoman Empire, since they occupied the same area as Spain occupies now? That's making everything a bit complicated, I would say.
Ole
Rhodesia & Nyasaland is a different issue since it did not occupy the same territorial region as Zimbabwe and you are right, trying to create that kind of logical connection would be making things too complicated. I think the correct way of cross-referencing Rhodesia & Nyasaland to Zimbabwe is by having a 'see also' link at the top of the Zimbabwe catalogue, which is the way it currently is, so all good there. To then try and extrapolate a similar type of logic strain to the issue of Spain and the Roman and Ottoman Empires is just plain facetious and not worthy of further discussion.
Just because you can't see it ... doesn't mean it isn't there - Anon.
I must admit that this feature looks weird when there are just two issuers... it works best with many issuers - see German States - if you click them, it will open all the states and you can search them all at once. It works same way here although it looks weird.
So what of the short lived state of Zimbabwe-Rhodesia? I have a 1980 pattern produced by the SA mint.
"EVERY COIN IS CLEANED. CLEANING, THEREFORE, IS ALWAYS A MATTER OF DEGREE.
If you send a "dirty" coin into a grading service to be "conserved" and let them do the "conserving" they will charge you for their work CLEANING the coin ..."
So what of the short lived state of Zimbabwe-Rhodesia? I have a 1980 pattern produced by the SA mint.
“Rhobabwe” only existed between 1 June 1979 and 11 December 1979, and they used the Rhidesian dollar. They never issued any coins under Zimbabwe-Rhodesia.
So what of the short lived state of Zimbabwe-Rhodesia? I have a 1980 pattern produced by the SA mint.
“Rhobabwe” only existed between 1 June 1979 and 11 December 1979, and they used the Rhidesian dollar. They never issued any coins under Zimbabwe-Rhodesia.
Unfortunately, your statement is incorrect. Pattern coins were developed by the SA Mint (engraver Lourens de Lange (LDL)). Documented in all denominations, but ignored, due to the short lived nature of the sovereign state of Zimbabwe-Rhodesia (which actually lasted til April 18, 1980 with the proclamation of Zimbabwe). “Complete sets may exist for the entire range of denominations (i.e. the reverse of the 1 and 2 cents in this set depicts a laurel wreath, the 5 cents depicts a Rhodesian Parrot Bird, the 10 cents depicts a dessert tree, the 20 cents depicts a Disa flower, the 50 cents depicts the Victoria Falls and the 1 dollar coin depicts ruins) and one was sold by Christie's in 2001. More recently, I added one of only four known 1980 1 cent patterns (see photos) to my collection and there are supposedly up to six 50 cent patterns. It would seem that this “country/state” should have its own listing perhaps as a subgroup of Zimbabwe (which chose to go with the Royal Mint after the election).” Different mint & different country, certified by NGC.
"EVERY COIN IS CLEANED. CLEANING, THEREFORE, IS ALWAYS A MATTER OF DEGREE.
If you send a "dirty" coin into a grading service to be "conserved" and let them do the "conserving" they will charge you for their work CLEANING the coin ..."
So what of the short lived state of Zimbabwe-Rhodesia? I have a 1980 pattern produced by the SA mint.
“Rhobabwe” only existed between 1 June 1979 and 11 December 1979, and they used the Rhodesian dollar. They never issued any coins under Zimbabwe-Rhodesia.
Unfortunately, your statement is incorrect. Pattern coins were developed by the SA Mint (engraver Lourens de Lange (LDL)). Documented in all denominations, but ignored, due to the short lived nature of the sovereign state of Zimbabwe-Rhodesia (which actually lasted til April 18, 1980 with the proclamation of Zimbabwe). “Complete sets may exist for the entire range of denominations (i.e. the reverse of the 1 and 2 cents in this set depicts a laurel wreath, the 5 cents depicts a Rhodesian Parrot Bird, the 10 cents depicts a dessert tree, the 20 cents depicts a Disa flower, the 50 cents depicts the Victoria Falls and the 1 dollar coin depicts ruins) and one was sold by Christie's in 2001. More recently, I added one of only four known 1980 1 cent patterns (see photos) to my collection and there are supposedly up to six 50 cent patterns. It would seem that this “country/state” should have its own listing perhaps as a subgroup of Zimbabwe (which chose to go with the Royal Mint after the election).” Different mint & different country, certified by NGC.
I'm intregued and will reverse my statement. But no coins ever reached circulation. Right? 🤔
So what of the short lived state of Zimbabwe-Rhodesia? I have a 1980 pattern produced by the SA mint.
“Rhobabwe” only existed between 1 June 1979 and 11 December 1979, and they used the Rhodesian dollar. They never issued any coins under Zimbabwe-Rhodesia.
Unfortunately, your statement is incorrect. Pattern coins were developed by the SA Mint (engraver Lourens de Lange (LDL)). Documented in all denominations, but ignored, due to the short lived nature of the sovereign state of Zimbabwe-Rhodesia (which actually lasted til April 18, 1980 with the proclamation of Zimbabwe). “Complete sets may exist for the entire range of denominations (i.e. the reverse of the 1 and 2 cents in this set depicts a laurel wreath, the 5 cents depicts a Rhodesian Parrot Bird, the 10 cents depicts a dessert tree, the 20 cents depicts a Disa flower, the 50 cents depicts the Victoria Falls and the 1 dollar coin depicts ruins) and one was sold by Christie's in 2001. More recently, I added one of only four known 1980 1 cent patterns (see photos) to my collection and there are supposedly up to six 50 cent patterns. It would seem that this “country/state” should have its own listing perhaps as a subgroup of Zimbabwe (which chose to go with the Royal Mint after the election).” Different mint & different country, certified by NGC.
I'm intregued and will reverse my statement. But no coins ever reached circulation. Right? @
Great question. All I know is that the patterns exist and that several have been graded. IT was a sovereign state - however briefly - and used a different mint (SA Mint) then the state (Zimbabwe - Royal Mint) that followed. That would seem to be enough definition to create a separate sub group. A link I have for the 50 cent, shows a reverse that is a fish, not Victoria Falls. http://www.worldofcoins.eu/forum/index.php?topic=6602.0
"EVERY COIN IS CLEANED. CLEANING, THEREFORE, IS ALWAYS A MATTER OF DEGREE.
If you send a "dirty" coin into a grading service to be "conserved" and let them do the "conserving" they will charge you for their work CLEANING the coin ..."
Great question. All I know is that the patterns exist and that several have been graded. IT was a sovereign state - however briefly - and used a different mint (SA Mint) then the state (Zimbabwe - Royal Mint) that followed. That would seem to be enough definition to create a separate sub group. A link I have for the 50 cent, shows a reverse that is a fish, not Victoria Falls. http://www.worldofcoins.eu/forum/index.php?topic=6602.0
I like that design.
The oattern coins obviously exists, vut I don't think they ever reached circulation because of the very short lived state. Thanka for sharing!
Great question. All I know is that the patterns exist and that several have been graded. IT was a sovereign state - however briefly - and used a different mint (SA Mint) then the state (Zimbabwe - Royal Mint) that followed. That would seem to be enough definition to create a separate sub group. A link I have for the 50 cent, shows a reverse that is a fish, not Victoria Falls. http://www.worldofcoins.eu/forum/index.php?topic=6602.0
I like that design.
The oattern coins obviously exists, vut I don't think they ever reached circulation because of the very short lived state. Thanka for sharing!
‘Zimbabwe-Rhodesia’ was never recognised as an independent state - but as a continuation of the Colony of Rhodesia, as under international law, Rhodesia remained a British colony until its independence as Zimbabwe.
Great question. All I know is that the patterns exist and that several have been graded. IT was a sovereign state - however briefly - and used a different mint (SA Mint) then the state (Zimbabwe - Royal Mint) that followed. That would seem to be enough definition to create a separate sub group. A link I have for the 50 cent, shows a reverse that is a fish, not Victoria Falls. http://www.worldofcoins.eu/forum/index.php?topic=6602.0
I like that design.
The oattern coins obviously exists, vut I don't think they ever reached circulation because of the very short lived state. Thanka for sharing!
‘Zimbabwe-Rhodesia’ was never recognised as an independent state - but as a continuation of the Colony of Rhodesia, as under international law, Rhodesia remained a British colony until its independence as Zimbabwe.
Aidan.
That's not what the Wiki entry implied, that you referenced, only a few days ago. “was a sovereign state that existed from 1 June 1979 to 18 April 1980.”
"EVERY COIN IS CLEANED. CLEANING, THEREFORE, IS ALWAYS A MATTER OF DEGREE.
If you send a "dirty" coin into a grading service to be "conserved" and let them do the "conserving" they will charge you for their work CLEANING the coin ..."
