Austrian and Hungarian coin values

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Roublizer
Joined: 29 Jan 2013
Posts: 239
Posted: 30 Jan 2018, 01:10 #
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In a lot of coins I bought there are 4 coins I’m not sure the value of :

Austrian 20 kreuzer 1778 g
https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces22599.html

Austrian 1/2 thaler 1819 e
I can’t find any records for the 1/2 thaler anywhere for this mint date combo
https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces33719.html

Hungarian groschen? 1601 (probably wrong) 2.26g

Transylvania 1 Kreuzer 1712
https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces72470.html

I’ll put more information up later tonight. I can also put up better pictures if needed.

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Tovarich
Joined: 9 Aug 2015
Posts: 877
Posted: 30 Jan 2018, 02:27 #
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1/2 Thaler Value, Krause lists it as the same prices

https://www.ngccoin.com/price-guide/world/austria-1-2-thaler-km-2153-1817-1824-cuid-1049741-duid-1226385

Hungarian Denar

https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces106284.html

https://www.ngccoin.com/price-guide/world/hungary-den%C3%A1r-km-7-1601-cuid-1123338-duid-1411107

Austrian Kreuzer Value

https://www.ngccoin.com/price-guide/world/austria-20-kreuzer-km-2067.1-1765-1780-cuid-1049634-duid-1222555
Roublizer
Joined: 29 Jan 2013
Posts: 239
Posted: 30 Jan 2018, 03:08 #
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Quote: "Tovarich"​1/2 Thaler Value, Krause lists it as the same prices
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​https://www.ngccoin.com/price-guide/world/austria-1-2-thaler-km-2153-1817-1824-cuid-1049741-duid-1226385
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​Hungarian Denar
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​https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces106284.html
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​https://www.ngccoin.com/price-guide/world/hungary-den%C3%A1r-km-7-1601-cuid-1123338-duid-1411107
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​Austrian Kreuzer Value
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​https://www.ngccoin.com/price-guide/world/austria-20-kreuzer-km-2067.1-1765-1780-cuid-1049634-duid-1222555
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Thanks

I didn’t mention it before but the Hungarian coin is 2.26g so it can’t be a denar.

I had looked at ngc for the 1/2 thaler before and $220 at vf seems high.
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PetrusAscanus
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Posted: 30 Jan 2018, 12:00 #
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20 kreuzer looks like a restrike/fake
http://coinquest.com/cgi-bin/cq/coins?main_coin=12683
please compare details with pictures of genuine coins


1/2 thaler:
http://coinquest.com/cgi-bin/cq/coins?main_coin=1458&main_ss_id=282626
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apuking Catalogue referee
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Posted: 30 Jan 2018, 14:07 #
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the 20 Kreuzer coin looks good to me.
High grade but minted with used older dies.
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oggy
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Posted: 30 Jan 2018, 17:29 #
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Kruezer and 1/2 thaler look kosher.

Real world values for these early thalers tend to be a tad lower than catalogue. Apuking might know more about the specific ones, as I only have the late 18th century types.
PetrusAscanus
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Posted: 30 Jan 2018, 17:51 #
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Quote: "apuking"​the 20 Kreuzer coin looks good to me.
​High grade but minted with used older dies.
​ok, thanks!
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Roublizer
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Posted: 31 Jan 2018, 09:22 #
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Thanks for the replies!

The coinquest values seem much more reasonable than ngc for the 1/2 thaler.
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