Just a little annex to the 'How far back can we go' thread on Numista that I started six months ago; how far back can your collection go?
Personally, I can provide (at least) one coin in my collection from every Gregorian calendar year from 2017 (have yet to get a 2018) until 1842; but I'm sure there are others who can go back hundreds of years more.
I have a lot of gaps (especially before 1900) but my oldest are Olbia/Sarmatia dolphin coins made somewhere between 350 to 550 BC. Surprisingly, they are much more available (and affordable) than I thought. Sorry for the bright reflection on the scan - didn't want to remove them from their holders:
Для всього свій час, і година своя кожній справі під небом
Don't feel too bad, I didn't have my 2014, 2015, 2016, and 2017 until just a few weeks ago.
In fact, my own 2015 I fished out of a fountain, but only because I saw it was a commemorative 2€ (who throws 2€ coins into fountains?!)
On the 'my coins' tab, you should be able to export the file into .xlsx form and sort by the year. It's not perfect because some of the years show up as unknown, but it should be pretty accurate.
Looks like I can go back to 1886 with the foreign collection. If I use the US to fill in the gaps, I have everything back to 1816.
Nicely all the way from 2018 (I already got one of those Russian coins from the future last year!) till 1897 ... and then I start getting holes ... lots of them ... still works ongoing in the 19th century ...
Just call me Bram
No new swaps for the moment, still too many half-ongoing swaps to clean up!
Quote: "phfoticus"2018 back to 1498, with no gaps. After that, only a few scattered years (year with greatest overlap shown for non-AD-dated coins):
1492
1426
733
214
149
80
-62
-151
Don't feel too bad, I didn't have my 2014, 2015, 2016, and 2017 until just a few weeks ago.
In fact, my own 2015 I fished out of a fountain, but only because I saw it was a commemorative 2€ (who throws 2€ coins into fountains?!)
I go back to 1851, and then I'm missing 1850 and it gets patchy after that. I was surprised that it goes this far back unbroken, there are a fair number of dates where I only have one coin for that date.
My oldest coin is the one in my avatar, which was minted between 1397 and 1438. (Actually, I have a Roman bronze coin, but I haven't identified it yet.)
I can only go sequentially till 1934, 1931-33 US coins are less common and I never specifically tried to find any. Cents are the only denomination produced throughout the entire length of the depression, and only about 10% the mintage of surrounding years. All the others have 1 to 5 year long gaps from 1929-33.
Quote: "Jesse11"I go back to 1851, and then I'm missing 1850 and it gets patchy after that. I was surprised that it goes this far back unbroken, there are a fair number of dates where I only have one coin for that date.
Exactly the same for me, down to the specific date.
The patchy coverage goes back to the 16th century; my oldest AD dated coin is from the 1510s (probably still the 1517 Salzburg zweier - not listed in my collection because I haven't seen it since before I joined Numista - but I might have bought an earlier one recently).
My overall oldest dated coin, including other calendars, is 138 BC (it's a Seleucid bronze of Antiochus VII dated 174 in the local era).
My oldest undated coin, for what it's worth, is a 5th century BC Kyzikos hemiobol (this type or very similar).
From 1842, my 'patchy coverage' continues until the mid 17th century; I know easily since before Numista, I kept track of my collection like this in a Notes Document (still do):
I have coins dated from 2017 to 1481, but to go in cronological order I'm going from 2017-1887, and then it's 1884-1872 The rest centuries (1700-1400) I just have a hand full of coins - combined.
2017-1937 and then I have gaps of no more than 3 years until 1854.
After this I have a gap until 1778.
Then I have a huge gap until the period between the years 1000-1500 where I have a bunch of coins.
And then I have another huge gap until some BC coins I have.
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2018 to 1913 (if you consider that FIFA Soccer World Cup roubles as 2018), and gaps of 1-3 years between 1913 and 1849. After this there are a few coins between 1700 and 1850, one 1600's, one late Roman and one early Byzantine.
Edit.: changed 1916 to 1913 since I got a 1915 coin.
Quote: "Giobruno"2018 to 1913 (if you consider that FIFA Soccer World Cup roubles as 2018), and gaps of 1-3 years between 1913 and 1849. After this there are a few coins between 1700 and 1850, one 1600's, one late Roman and one early Byzantine.
Edit.: changed 1916 to 1913 since I got a 1915 coin.
I have gaps of 1-4 years all the way between 1851 and 1737. (Only 1-2 year gaps between 1843 and 1758, at that, but I don't appear to have anything from 1844-47.)
Then another half a dozen dates in the early 1700s, another half a dozen (maybe more by now) in the 1600s, another half a dozen in the 1500s, and another dozen or so earlier than that (mostly Byzantine) - most of that latter category not yet entered into Numista, admittedly.
Quote: "CassTaylor"Just a little annex to the 'How far back can we go' thread on Numista that I started six months ago; how far back can your collection go?
Personally, I can provide (at least) one coin in my collection from every Gregorian calendar year from 2017 (have yet to get a 2018) until 1842; but I'm sure there are others who can go back hundreds of years more.
Thought I'd revive this thread to see if anyone has gotten their collection further back.
When I made this thread I was at 1842, then I got a 1841 EIC India 2 Annas; now I'm at 1829.
My first gap is 1804 but I can fille the years 1804, 1802 and 1796 with coins with the Revolutionay Calendar by he years 4, 10 and 12.
My next gap is 1776 and I don't have any coin from the years AH1189 or AH1190 either.
Quote: "Giobruno"2018 to 1913 (if you consider that FIFA Soccer World Cup roubles as 2018), and gaps of 1-3 years between 1913 and 1849. After this there are a few coins between 1700 and 1850, one 1600's, one late Roman and one early Byzantine.
Edit.: changed 1916 to 1913 since I got a 1915 coin.
I have gaps of 1-4 years all the way between 1851 and 1737. (Only 1-2 year gaps between 1843 and 1758, at that, but I don't appear to have anything from 1844-47.)
Then another half a dozen dates in the early 1700s, another half a dozen (maybe more by now) in the 1600s, another half a dozen in the 1500s, and another dozen or so earlier than that (mostly Byzantine) - most of that latter category not yet entered into Numista, admittedly.
Update for September 20th: the 1844-47 thing had been covered up with a coin from 1846, so now I have only 1-2 year gaps all the way from 1851 to 1758. There's an uncertain 1757 that might bring it a bit further back; hadn't counted how far exactly.
As for the 1-4 year gaps, that now goes back to... well, I have 1736, 1731, 1728. Might have 1724, but it's uncertain. Then I have (at least) 1721, 1720, 1717, 1713, 1710, a probable 1705, 1703, 1699. (Incidentally, what happened to the 1699? I could swear I've entered it a while ago.) That should be it, though.
Quote: "Giobruno"2018 to 1913 (if you consider that FIFA Soccer World Cup roubles as 2018), and gaps of 1-3 years between 1913 and 1849. After this there are a few coins between 1700 and 1850, one 1600's, one late Roman and one early Byzantine.
Edit.: changed 1916 to 1913 since I got a 1915 coin.
I have gaps of 1-4 years all the way between 1851 and 1737. (Only 1-2 year gaps between 1843 and 1758, at that, but I don't appear to have anything from 1844-47.)
Then another half a dozen dates in the early 1700s, another half a dozen (maybe more by now) in the 1600s, another half a dozen in the 1500s, and another dozen or so earlier than that (mostly Byzantine) - most of that latter category not yet entered into Numista, admittedly.
Update for September 20th: the 1844-47 thing had been covered up with a coin from 1846, so now I have only 1-2 year gaps all the way from 1851 to 1758. There's an uncertain 1757 that might bring it a bit further back; hadn't counted how far exactly.
As for the 1-4 year gaps, that now goes back to... well, I have 1736, 1731, 1728. Might have 1724, but it's uncertain. Then I have (at least) 1721, 1720, 1717, 1713, 1710, a probable 1705, 1703, 1699. (Incidentally, what happened to the 1699? I could swear I've entered it a while ago.) That should be it, though.
Just accidentally found out that I do have a non-uncertain 1757, which just doesn't happen to have been entered into Numista (don't recall why).
Past that I have 1754, 1753, 1750, 1749, 1747, and, um, I don't think I have anything in the 1741-1745 range (yet), so I guess that makes it 1-2 year gaps all the way to 1746?
(Then 1741, 1739, 1737, 1736, and there's a gap again until 1731.)
...Might as well figure out which years in the 1700-1851 range I am missing.
...Best I can tell, 1850, 1847, 1845-4, 1839, 1833, 1829, 1823, 1821, 1817, 1811, 1796-4, 1792, 1790, 1786-5, 1783, 1781, 1778-7, 1772, 1769, 1767, 1761, 1756-5, 1752-1, 1748, 1746-2, 1740, 1738, 1735-2, 1730-29, 1727-22, 1719-8, 1716-4, 1712-1, 1709-4, 1702-0. (...This is unexpectedly shorter than the list of dates I do have.)
I note that this doesn't count all the uncertain dates (some of which are actually fairly likely), and, with the exception of 1757, any coins that I didn't enter into Numista (in particular, a bunch of dated 1700s wire kopeks).
This does, however, count 1780, for which my only coin is a 20th century Maria Theresa thaler.
Split by periods: I'm missing 11 dates from 1850-1800, 19 dates from 1800-1750, and 36 dates from 1750-1700, for a total of 66 missing dates out of 151 possible. (I have both 1800 and 1750, so there's no double counting.)
OTOH, I have only a handful each from the 17th and 16th centuries (so far), and nothing (yet) from the 15th century.
Thank God for Britannia pennies, because of them I can get all the way back to 1911.
(Seriously I am not on the same league as some of you).
Oh whoops - 1909 as I have a 1910 Australian 3d (Woohoo)
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Quote: "CassTaylor"I'm still stuck at 1829, but after that I have only one year gaps until 1785; I'm missing the years 1828, 1811, 1798, and 1795.
A few scattered coins throughout the rest of the 18th and 17th centuries, but thins out considerably before 1650.
A little update- as anyone who has been following our year-by year thread here will know, I have since acquired coins from three of those dates.
Have apparently added 1751, but no other dates between 1851 and 1700, since my previous listing. To be fair, I didn't buy many coins in the last few months.
That gets me down to one gap of over 1 year (1845-4) between 1851 and 1797, and only three such gaps (1786-5, 1778-7, 1756-5) between 1793 and 1747.
...Wait, just remembered a pair of very worn coins I have that had apparently somehow not been added to my collection yet. They turned out to be dated 1785 and 1794, so I'm now down to only 1-2 year gaps all the way up to 1747, only four of those gaps being over 1 year (1845-4, 1796-5, 1778-7, and 1756-5).
Given my "circulating silver" collecting bug, I have few modern pieces, I do own one circulating silver coin per date from the early 1990's, (Thank those wonderful Mexicans and their .925 pesos!) a few back to 1975, It takes getting back to 1973 to start my solid date run which lasts until 1845. From there, I'm missing only a few (4 or 5) to make it to the 1800 mark, and 8 or 9 more would get me to 1750. from there on it's hit or miss as to what I have!
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I really have no idea as I only have a small portion of my collection on numista so far. Will need to work at getting everything compiled, which is going to take a while lol
I am reviving this thread as I got an update to my participation here.
After today's purchases, I remembered of this thread after getting a coin that filled my 1903 gap and now I saw in my profile that I can go all the way from 2023 (got a Bessie Coleman quarter as well) to 1865.
I could go all the way to 1853 if it wasn't for a gap in 1864.
So, after all these years of this thread being inactive, let us hear your answers. Or updates to the previous answers here.
Without any stops I can get back to 1852. That year I have a Gothic Florin. However at this stage I have nothing from 1851. Yet for 1850 I have 3 coins!
I can do a coin every year back to this historic beauty
Next gap is 1847 and 1848 and then its back to 1833 with no stops.
I am mainly lucky with having all dates of British bronze coinage back to 1860 (By that I mean, at least one of the 3 denominations per year - so for 1933 I don't have the penny, but I have the ½d and ¼d) and then I can do Gothic Florins and groats through the 1850s. The one year I came unstuck was 1859, but found I had a 10 cent Danish West indies coin from that year.
The coin that gave me an extra decade!
Things really thin out before 1816 (The year of the great English coinage reform) and pretty much I can only do a handful of coins back to 1670. But my oldest coin is the Carthaginian Tetra (Something I did to my computer wiped the photos) which is 3rd or 4th century BC.
My 10 oldest coins are
1. Tetra - 200 - 400BC
2. Diocletian Radiate - 302AD (AN XX)
3. Folis of Constantine the great 320AD
4. Constans II folis - 350sAD
5. Unidentified Roman copper - 4th century
6. Ummayad Dinar - c. 750 - 1200AD
7. Egyptian Copper thing - 1218 - 1240AD
8. English shilling - 1551/53
9. English 6d - 1572 (Oldest numerically dated coin)
10. English 6d - 1574
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1767 Prussian 4½ silber groschen (Frederick the great)
1758 Great Britain 1 shilling
1757 Great Britain 6d
1753 Great Britain Halfpenny
1747 German hard to read tiny silver coin (Has an eagle and 1747 on it)
1746 Great Britain Lima Halfcrown
1745 GB Lima Shilling
1739 GB Shilling
1731 GB Halfcrown
1723 Woods Irish Halfpenny
1723 GB Shilling
1720 GB Shilling
1711 GB Shilling
1709 GB Halfcrown
1707 GB Halfcrown
1697 England Halfcrown
1696 English Halfcrowns x 3
1695 English Shilling
1689 English Halfcrowns x 2
1688 Dutch “Reidershilling”
1687 English Halfcrown
1685 English shilling
1670 English Halfcrown
1656 English Halfcrown
1646 English shilling
1636 English Halfcrown
1596 English shilling
1590/92 English 6d
1587 English 6d
And that completes my pre 1816 lineup!
I had none of those coins, when I did my post in early 2019.
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For me I’ve got every year from 1898-2023 without any gaps. Also I have 31 coins that pre date 1898 that have a few gaps until the mid 1860s where the gaps are a few decades to a couple of centuries long.
Newest is 2023 U.K. Charles III Silver Britannia.
Oldest is 247-249 Samosata AE 30 Philip II (Not yet in Numista request pending).
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My oldest coin is ca1050 AD. I don't seriously collect coins though.
My oldest banknote is 1806. I think I have an example of a note of every year from 1894 to 2001 - almost all are Irish banknotes - I certainly have 1912 to 2001. Must dig out the albums and have a look!
My oldest coin is ca1050 AD. I don't seriously collect coins though.
My oldest banknote is 1806. I think I have an example of a note of every year from 1894 to 2001 - almost all are Irish banknotes - I certainly have 1912 to 2001. Must dig out the albums and have a look!
Now that's a bit more Difficult with bank notes I will have a look how old my oldest is as I have never really looked .
It's not really about what's your oldest item is but now far can you go back in an unbroken series. Not really possible for banknotes I believe. For me I got the years from 2022 till 1887 now but many larger holes until 1848.
It's not really about what's your oldest item is but now far can you go back in an unbroken series. Not really possible for banknotes I believe. For me I got the years from 2022 till 1887 now but many larger holes until 1848.
I take the blame for that, by listing all my pre 1816 coins - a great but pointless exercise.
Maybe we should start another “A year a day thread” where we do a year every day going back and people show their coins from that year. We last did that in 2020.
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I don't collect “modern” coins so my “how far back” doesn;t go back at all. But I have a run of consecutive years from 1700 to 1492 across my four collecting themes (mostly Kingdom of Poland and PLC)
I am gradually filling in the 18th century where I am missing about 15 dates, and simultaneously working backward from 1492(including undated but attributable coins before 1474). No aspirations to come all the way to the to the present. Here is what my chart looks like:
The gap at 1587 is a token from the Duchy of Lorraine.
ngdawa, 25-Jan-2018 I have coins dated from[…] 2017-1887
Well, npw that I checked I actually have coins 2021-1887.
I will probably keep pickng up change, but I highly doubt I will keep building it backwards. If I ever get 1886 and 1885, I will end up in 1872 without any gaps, and then I'd just need 5 dates to reach 1847. 🤪
The furthest back I can go by date run is 1935. I don't collect bye year, but by type. So there is at least 1 different coin type in my collection in each year from 1935 to 2022
glykanI have a lot of gaps (especially before 1900) but my oldest are Olbia/Sarmatia dolphin coins made somewhere between 350 to 550 BC. Surprisingly, they are much more available (and affordable) than I thought. Sorry for the bright reflection on the scan - didn't want to remove them from their holders:
I have just heard about this and I am quite amazed. Why are they so cute lol, I'll try to find one pretty soon.
glykanI have a lot of gaps (especially before 1900) but my oldest are Olbia/Sarmatia dolphin coins made somewhere between 350 to 550 BC. Surprisingly, they are much more available (and affordable) than I thought. Sorry for the bright reflection on the scan - didn't want to remove them from their holders:
I had to buy one 😁. It will be my new oldest coin when it comes. My oldest right now is Judea Prutah 104-76bc
In fact, my own 2015 I fished out of a fountain, but only because I saw it was a commemorative 2€ (who throws 2€ coins into fountains?!)
I once fished out a coin because it was a new country for me (czechia) but i did it at the Vatican >:)
That's hilarious, when our tour group visited the Trevi fountain in 2014, we all threw 1,2 and 5 euro cent coins in. One fool threw in a 20 cent and got laughed at.
The main reason was, not because we were tight - well some of us may have been. But was because several Gypsies and Africans were hanging around the edge using magnetic rods to fish the coins out of the fountain and would periodically disappear and reappear when the Carabineri showed up. In fact Italy seemed to be plagued with Gypsies and Africans begging and hawking counterfeit items.
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Now I am back to 1816, with 1815 being the first year I don't have a coin.
Makes sense given I collect mostly British coins and 1816 was the year of the great recoinage. I do however have many foreign coins that cover most of the missing 1800s years.
As you can see I am cutting it fine for 1832 and 1833 (Ironically years in which no silver coins other than Maundy were issued in the UK).
I love coins. Especially silver, gold and anything really old.
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I don't even know how i can check without exporting data to excel etc. my date chart spans from 500bc to 2025, so nearly my entire collection is clumped in the corner 😂
Edit:
Wait, i see that you are able to scroll into the years on PC. I haven't used the PC version. I need to try it
I don't even know how i can check without exporting data to excel etc. my date chart spans from 500bc to 2025, so nearly my entire collection is clumped in the corner 😂
Edit:
Wait, i see that you are able to scroll into the years on PC. I haven't used the PC version. I need to try it
Yes, just put your cursor over the clump and it draws a shape, click it and it enlarges like you see in my post. It shows the number of coins per year and clicking on the bar will show a list of the coins you have from that year. In my case I want to look at my coins from 1910.
Clicking on the bar, will bring up this list of coins from that selected year sorted into countries, and your notes will be shown and a hotlink to that coin, if you need to modify it.
And there you are - wondrous thing!
I love coins. Especially silver, gold and anything really old.
Member of the Royal Numismatic Society of New Zealand and the Auckland Numismatic Society
Yes, just put your cursor over the clump and it draws a shape, click it and it enlarges like you see in my post. It shows the number of coins per year and clicking on the bar will show a list of the coins you have from that year. In my case I want to look at my coins from 1910.
Clicking on the bar, will bring up this list of coins from that selected year sorted into countries, and your notes will be shown and a hotlink to that coin, if you need to modify it.
And there you are - wondrous thing!
Oh wow, never heard about that second part about clicking on the bar.
Probably because this doesn't work on legacy display (it only works on complete display, I checked).
My last post here was at 2023, so since this thread resurfaced I checked my dashboard again for curiosity.
Turns out that I closed the 1852 gap long ago and now I can go all the way from 2025 to 1849.
But from 1849 to 1846 and from 1846 to 1843 there are gaps of two years each. As said before, from this point on the gaps are more frequent, I won't be chasing them.