I know that all over the world there have been different "movements" throughout history. I am just wondering if there have been other people from different generations that have been ashamed of what their generation is "known" for.
Perfect example I am 30 years old and therefore I would be considered one of the "millennials" We all know they have become known for being immature crybabies that argue about ridiculous things and an inability to reason. They have been brainwashed by the global media and their backwards agenda. I personally cringe every time I think about how I'm a part of this generation.
Are there other members of this generation that share my thoughts - or perhaps people that were a part of another generation that had similar thoughts of embarrassment earlier during their lives?
Oh, I'm fairly sure that every single generation in history is convinced that "the kids today just aren't like they were back in my day".
"I see no hope for the future of our people if they are dependent on frivolous youth of today, for certainly all youth are reckless beyond words... When I was young, we were taught to be discreet and respectful of elders, but the present youth are exceedingly wise [disrespectful] and impatient of restraint." - Hesiod, 8th century B.C.
I'm next generation up. I'm pushing 40 so I'm classed as Generation X.
Our generation is really a transition generation between the baby boomers and millenials. The use of technology was introduced when we were young, so we're familiar enough with it to use most modern technology, but we're still old enough to remember the times running around outside entertaining ourselves because there was no technology.
Our generation also saw the swing away from the homophobia, racism, sexism, etc that was prevalent among the baby boomers and the generation before them.
Unfortunately our generation also saw the transition away from face to face socializing towards online socializing. Generation Xers are actually the biggest users of social media (facebook, twitter etc) Baby boomers were far better at getting out with their mates and enjoying each others company than our generation or the millenials
But overall...No, I'm not ashamed of my generation and I'd much rather be GenX than be a baby boomer or a millennial.
It's so hard for me since I relate much more to your gen X than my own.... it could just be that I had a good family that taught me to respect others as well as myself. Or it could just be that life has matured me far beyond my years with all that I have seen and done
You must be close to the cutoff for GenX, the transition years are a bit blurry anyway. GenX is supposed to be 1965-1985. I'm in 1978 so almost in the middle of it.
As I am pretty young, 26, I belong in "Generation Y". I am ashamed of the small amount of information of what my generation has learned as (atleast here) most do not read books. I read a lot of books when I was young. Historical books, as others read comics.
Quote: "Myeackle"I know that all over the world there have been different "movements" throughout history. I am just wondering if there have been other people from different generations that have been ashamed of what their generation is "known" for.
Perfect example I am 30 years old and therefore I would be considered one of the "millennials" We all know they have become known for being immature crybabies that argue about ridiculous things and a inability to reason. They have been brainwashed by the global media and their backwards agenda. I personally cringe every time I think about how I'm apart of this generation.
Are there other ther members of this generation that share my thoughts or perhaps people that were apart of another generation that had similar thoughts of embarrassment earlier during their lives.
Lets be mature and no crying
Matt
I'm not even going to comment on the stuff about the globalist media brainwashed libtard millennials', for the sake of keeping the peace, or being accused of hijacking threads.
But I agree with Jesse that every generation's had it's negative subjective associations (usually by the previous one).
1905: 'I say, old chap! Do look at those scandalous bloomers! And no corset! Shocking what this world's come to, women demanding the vote and workers forming unions and all that bolshy rubbish! And that ragtime music!'
1925: 'Oh my! Dearie, you are NOT going out in that short fringed dress I hope! Nor are you going off to shimmy and Charleston to degenerate jazz music! And I absolutely forbid you to have your hair bobbed!'
1945: 'Not those socialist cranks again! Last thing we need with the Russians spreading the red all around Europe! Also, war's over- get those ladies back into the kitchen! What do you mean decolonization? Good god!'
1965: 'Kids these days, going out half naked and looking like barbarians smoking weed and protesting war... why it's an outrage! And all them Beatles, Elvis' hips... devil's music I tells ya! And now it's all integrated!'
1985: 'Whatever happened to pop culture? It's all men wearing makeup like that Boy George feller. And now we got gays and their AIDS, and girls wearing plaid miniskirts everywhere, kids spending their lives in arcades.. sad!'
2005: Insert ragging on millennials here.
Just remember that popular opinions and stereotypes are subjective, more often not accurate than so, and they change as time goes by. So there's really no point getting all worked up about it.
Personally I love the interwar era's (1920s and 1930s) fashions and music, here's a favourite optimistic tune of mine. Gotta love the crooning style. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nqIRyVfbvjI
Quote: "Monninen1"As I am pretty young, 26, I belong in "Generation Y". I am ashamed of the small amount of information of what my generation has learned as (atleast here) most do not read books. I read a lot of books when I was young. Historical books, as others read comics.
This is how we ended up collecting coins.
When I was 5 years old, I knew the capitals and flags of all the countries. I didn't have Internet until 14 years of age and before that age I have managed to read numerous books about history and geography. When I was 9 years old, I started collecting first coins. I wish there was Numista back then - I still have somewhere my note book where I carefully wrote down my first collection of 30 coins - circulated German marks, Czech korunas and so on.
I feel quite old now because my generation in general (at least in Poland and in Ukraine) doesn't read enough books, while I do like to read very much.
Think bigger. After what we've done to the Great Coral Reef and the rest of the planet, I'm ashamed of our entire species, not just any particular generation.
I know and work with people of all ages. I have found positives and negatives in all of them, but mainly positives.
If your ashamed of something, work to change it.
Quote: "Jesse11"Oh, I'm fairly sure that every single generation in history is convinced that "the kids today just aren't like they were back in my day".
"I see no hope for the future of our people if they are dependent on frivolous youth of today, for certainly all youth are reckless beyond words... When I was young, we were taught to be discreet and respectful of elders, but the present youth are exceedingly wise [disrespectful] and impatient of restraint." - Hesiod, 8th century B.C.
Good perspective, thanks for that. History is a good place to find some perspective!
As long as we have these young guys on here that read books and know that other cultures and people’s exist than we will have some good leadership out there. The important thing is that at least one present of the population doesn’t buy into society’s silly trends and can have their own thinking.
As far as propaganda goes, it only works because people want to believe it.
Taking a break from swapping for a while, but still interested in pre 1799 Spanish coins, I will make time for that!
One thing I have noticed these days is kids calling adults by their first names. When I was a kid, we were always taught that we weren't the social equal of adults so we should refer to them with the respectful title of Mr or Mrs whatever their surname was. My sons friends all call me Neil and it kind of bugs me. I just think "you aren't my friend or workmate, you shouldn't be calling me Neil." (Although some of them do call me "Kaushal's Dad" or "Jay's Dad" which is fine with me)
My mom taught me to use the formal you in Russian when talking to adults or people I don't know. In Hebrew it was kind of the same, I used to put a letter before the word teacher (when I was in school in Israel) that represents that they are not equal to us (students). That showed respect towards them. I never seen people use the same kind of reapect when talking to others in the USA. I don't even know how to call someone some time because I'm younger than him and it feels weird calling them by the first name.
Why should you be ashamed of somebody who relate to you only because of generation? Generation, nations, hobbies, sex, football teams fans... it's hard to live ashamed only because you are related to any social group. Don't worry about it)
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Quote: "Hello There"My mom taught me to use the formal you in Russian when talking to adults or people I don't know. In Hebrew it was kind of the same, I used to put a letter before the word teacher (when I was in school in Israel) that represents that they are not equal to us (students). That showed respect towards them. I never seen people use the same kind of reapect when talking to others in the USA. I don't even know how to call someone some time because I'm younger than him and it feels weird calling them by the first name.
So are you a Russian Jew living in the US? You have raised my curiosity, so in Hebrew there is the word teacher, but then you can add a letter to add, respect?
Is this only for teachers, or other things also? Police, magistrates, in business, ext.?
Taking a break from swapping for a while, but still interested in pre 1799 Spanish coins, I will make time for that!
Quote: "Hello There"My mom taught me to use the formal you in Russian when talking to adults or people I don't know. In Hebrew it was kind of the same, I used to put a letter before the word teacher (when I was in school in Israel) that represents that they are not equal to us (students). That showed respect towards them. I never seen people use the same kind of reapect when talking to others in the USA. I don't even know how to call someone some time because I'm younger than him and it feels weird calling them by the first name.
So are you a Russian Jew living in the US? You have raised my curiosity, so in Hebrew there is the word teacher, but then you can add a letter to add, respect?
Is this only for teachers, or other things also? Police, magistrates, in business, ext.?
the letter ה is kind of a respect adding letter; that's how I look at it. For instance, you can say just teacher or the teacher. I think the second one is more respectful than going to someone and saying teacher. So basically ה is the same as "the".
All this reminds me that the US National Archives once posted an early 60s letter on twitter from some guy protesting Wayne Newton and the Beach Boys performing at a 4th of July event.
I am 24, and I am last generation who played outside. When I was 17, kids in first class had phones. I was fighting against the monsters on the backyard with great sword (wooden stick). Today, kids only go out because there are pokemons.
Of course I am ashamed, half of them would die the first day of war because they would disobey the military during martial law. :D
Quote: "Jarcek"I am 24, and I am last generation who played outside. When I was 17, kids in first class had phones. I was fighting against the monsters on the backyard with great sword (wooden stick). Today, kids only go out because there are pokemons.
Of course I am ashamed, half of them would die the first day of war because they would disobey the military during martial law. :D
Thats exactly the problem. The parents nowadays are overprotective but do not help the children in other things. I remember the Nokia 3310 times, everything is more complicated now.
Quote: "Jarcek" I was fighting against the monsters on the backyard with great sword (wooden stick). Today, kids only go out because there are pokemons.
In my city, it is illegal for children under the age of 8 to be outside without a parent, and illegal to be home alone until age 13.
I was born in a 1981, and I identify neither with Gen X nor the millennials. I am a misplaced GI Generation, born 60 years too late.
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In my city, it is illegal for children under the age of 8 to be outside without a parent, and illegal to be home alone until age 13.
I'm 24 and in general, I'm not ashamed of my generation. but I care about next generation, I mean those kids of the age of 14-17. I see they are young and ambitious and that's cool, but it seems like just for popularity in social media. sure, I understand SM already is a second passport, but I believe it's not so important stuff. but teenagers live for it and this is so sad... I mean, business and thirst for fame are different things. SM is a great tool for business, but not for a real life...
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I am in the supposed baby boomer generation, which runs from the end WWII to 1965. I always go by the person and not labels. I can say one thing,though, there is a world of difference from a person born in 1945 as one in 1965. They are alien worlds apart-up until the mid 50s, most people did not even have TV sets. I've met a lot of people from every main generation from 1890 to the generation of today. And some were great and some are not so great. I have met people that are 21 that far more together then I am, and I am 57. It depends on the person. I will say I liked the the culture of 1950s,60s and even the the 70s better than today. Things started to get ugly in mid 1980s. Things seemed a lot more fun back than today. You did not have people running around with their faces buried in smart phones.
I have read all the postings here with great interest, I am 73 years old and was born in 1944, 1 year before World War 2 was over. I was 4 years old before my father returned home from the Army and he was a stranger to me. In the following years there was the rationing of food and clothing, also of fuel for transport and coal for heating.
I walked 3 miles to school and back, went to church 3 times on Sunday, got a job at 15 years of age and joined the army at 16 in 1960. When I left the army in 1971 I got a job, which I kept for 24 years until redundancy at the age of 52. Within a week I was back in work and stayed there until retirement at 65. From the age of 8, I collected stamps of Great Britain and the colonies, I still have them. For the last ten years I have collected coins and find it very satisfying. Throughout my life there has been a sense of discipline and achievement through work and play, but with each successive generation, I fear that these things are no longer important to many of the young, 'self indulgence' and the 'what's in it for me' brigade has taken over, politeness, forget it. And yet, I envy the youth of today, they have access to things we oldies could only dream of in our younger years, but, one day they will become the older generation themselves, thinking the same of the newly young as we thought of them.
All the darkness in the world cannot hide the light of one small candle.
Quote: "Cerulean"
In my city, it is illegal for children under the age of 8 to be outside without a parent, and illegal to be home alone until age 13.
Seriously?
This is crazy.
I suppose the city's rationale is that kids will be less likely to get lost, be abducted, or get hurt. Makes sense to a city that might have these problems.
Question to any baby boomers: Do you think millennial have things easy in today's world as far as getting a career and sustaining one's self or family? Just curious since it seems to be a stereotype that boomers have that ideology.
What I collect: US, 3rd Reich Germany, Philippines, Ancients, Vatican City, North Korea.
Quote: "croffer"I have read all the postings here with great interest, I am 73 years old and was born in 1944, 1 year before World War 2 was over. I was 4 years old before my father returned home from the Army and he was a stranger to me. In the following years there was the rationing of food and clothing, also of fuel for transport and coal for heating.
I walked 3 miles to school and back, went to church 3 times on Sunday, got a job at 15 years of age and joined the army at 16 in 1960. When I left the army in 1971 I got a job, which I kept for 24 years until redundancy at the age of 52. Within a week I was back in work and stayed there until retirement at 65. From the age of 8, I collected stamps of Great Britain and the colonies, I still have them. For the last ten years I have collected coins and find it very satisfying. Throughout my life there has been a sense of discipline and achievement through work and play, but with each successive generation, I fear that these things are no longer important to many of the young, 'self indulgence' and the 'what's in it for me' brigade has taken over, politeness, forget it. And yet, I envy the youth of today, they have access to things we oldies could only dream of in our younger years, but, one day they will become the older generation themselves, thinking the same of the newly young as we thought of them.
Well said that man!
I'm a half generation behind you but consider myself to be a child of post war austerity. I grew up about dozen years and miles from you in Ramsbottom which I'm guessing you will be familiar with. Rationing and National Service were still a part of the culture and everyday items like Oranges and Bananas were still considered to be slightly decadent foreign luxuries. Remember how they used to come in individual tissue paper wrappers which served a dual purpose when it was time to make the trip to the outside "lavvy"?
The dislocations and tragedies of a fratricidal war were very real and very visible, broken young men robbed of their youth and the burned RAF flight crews who were rehabilitated locally. Plastic surgery was used to rebuild burned off faces, not to give some Hollywood bimbo fuller lips. We were given strict instructions not to stare at them and if we were spoken to we were to reply with a "Sir".
It was a different world, sometimes bleak and harsh, especially during winter on the Pennines, but we knew a real equality quite different from the virtuous "equality" of 2017. Our family doctor was our next door neighbor and my Headmaster (unfortunately for me) lived at the end of the street, right across from our local Police Sergeant. The local mill owners and the closest thing we had to "rich folks" lead locally raised soldiers over the top in 1914 and again in 1939 and Captain Dick Porritt was a common sight riding his white horse across the land which we were welcome to use as if it was our own. He knew each of us by name and would stop by our campsite and chat. Although it was never spoken of, every local family understood that if they fell on hard times they would be discreetly taken care of. There were no gated communities filled with rich hypocrites bleating about diversity and equality.
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I know Ramsbottom very well, My wife and I go there regularly. I was brought up on a farm on the other side of the hill at a place called Wainstalls, near Halifax, Yorkshire. An artesian well supplied water, and piglets stayed warm in the loo. Happy days.
All the darkness in the world cannot hide the light of one small candle.
Just for interest, the generation before the boomers was called the greatest or silent generation, and the WI generation was called the lost generation. Before that, maybe the Victorian generation?
Quote: "frankb"Just for interest, the generation before the boomers was called the greatest or silent generation, and the WI generation was called the lost generation. Before that, maybe the Victorian generation?
I guess so. There is still (atleast) one member alive from this generation who has been born in 1900, when victoria was still the queen.
Quote: "gridironshowcase"I suppose the city's rationale is that kids will be less likely to get lost, be abducted, or get hurt. Makes sense to a city that might have these problems
That is the stated rationale, of course, but violent crime in the US is far lower now than it was in the '70s and '80s when many of us played outside and explored our neighborhoods. It's at the lowest level since the early '60s. This is really just a reaction based on fear rather than actual facts.
Quote: "gridironshowcase"Question to any baby boomers: Do you think millennial have things easy in today's world as far as getting a career and sustaining one's self or family? Just curious since it seems to be a stereotype that boomers have that ideology.
Do you think baby boomers think this? From my perspective, millennials are in deep trouble. Massive student loans for degrees in fields that don't have sufficient job openings, housing prices far higher relative to salaries than in former times, a lack of opportunity for middle-class careers, a political zeitgeist of privatizing public assets and eroding the societal safety net...
