Latin monetary union

Just asking, does anybody own coins from the times of the LMU?

I have some but not many:
First, Finland - The country where i have most coins from:
about 10 1 penniä coins and the amount of 5 (or 4) 5 penniä coins and the same amount of 10 penniä coins, and 2pcs 25 penniä coins but also 3pcs 50 penniä coins.
Larger silver coins: 2 of both 1 and 2 markkaa coins. One with thin lettering and one with the thicker lettering.

And then there is the jewel of my collection: The 20 markkaa-1879 gold coin (as large as the french gold 20 franc)! a 6.4 gram gold coin that was the most worth coin of Finland, probably ever. It could be used to buy a horse. We could even say it is not worth as much as it was in the 1880's, when either a hard working man kept it as his only treasure, or a rich Russian businessman kept it in his secret vault. Nobody knows. It can be both!

I also have some coins from the Russian empire:
-1/4 ,¹/², 1, 2, 3, 5(copper and silver), 10, 15 and 20 kopek coins. And I must not forget the silver rouble coin.

I am trying to get atleast one coin from every LMU member nation (France, Italy, Switzerland, belgium, spain, austria-hungary, greece, romania, serbia, colonies of france, and the others)

I have a few coins from Napoleonic France, the Russian Empire, Finland and the Austro-Hungarian Empire.

Here is my Napoleon I 1815 20 Francs:

I have a Spanish real of the mid-fourteenth century introduced by King Pedro I de Castilla

I think I own at least one coin from every LMU era state in your map;

-France is obvious, I have 50 centimes, 1,2, and 5 Francs of both heads of Napoleon III, Ceres, and La Semeuse; also copper 1,2,5 10 centimes of Napoleon III, Ceres and Dupuis

-Spain I have 1 pesetas of Alfonso XIII 2nd and 3rd busts, 2 Pesetas of the 1st Republic and Alfonso XII, and 5 Pesetas of the 1st Rep. to Alfonso XIII's 3rd Head; also 1, 2, 5, 10 Centimos of the 1st Republic

-Italy I have 50 centimes, 1 lira, 5 lire of Victor Emmanuel II, 5 Lire of Umberto I, and 1, 2, 5, 10 centesimi of all rulers (incl. Vittorio Emanuele III's early reign).

-Switzerland I have 1/2 Franken, 1 Franc, 2 Francs, and 5 Francs minted in the late LMU or after LMU, but still with the same standards

-Belgium I have 50 centimes, 1 Franc, and 5 Francs of Leopold I, Leopold II, and Albert I

-Austria-Hungary I have 1 korona/1 corona, as well as the 2 korona for Austria and 5 Koronas for both Austria and Hungary of Franz Joseph I

-Russian Empire/Finland I have the Rouble - 10 kopecks of Nikolai II, and later the USSR's early silver issues; for Finland I have the 1, 5, 10, 25 pennia pieces

-Romania I have 1 Leu coins of Carol I

-Serbia I have a 1 Dinar of 1897

-Greece I have 1 Drachma coins of George I

LMU coin table:

Bronze and copper:
Finland: 1 penniä, 5 penniä, 10 penniä
Russia: 1/4 kopek, 1/2 kopek, 1, 2, 3, 5 and 10 kopek.
France: 1, 2, (3), 5 and 10 centimes.
Switzerland: 1 and 2 rappen
Spain: 1, 2, 5 and 10 centimes
Italy: 1, 2, 5, 10 and 20 centesimi.
Belgium: 1, 2, 5 and 10 centimi.
Austria-Hungary: 1 and 2 heller. (I forgot to add the guldens to the chart. sorry.
Greece: 1, 2, 5 and 10 lepta.
Romania: Again 1, 2, 5 and 10 bani.
Luxemburg: 2 1/2 centimes, 5 and 10 centimes.
Serbia: 1, 2 and 5 para
Monaco: 5 centimes and 1 decime (10 centimes)

Silver Coinage:

Finland: 25 and 50 penniä, 1 and 2 markkaa

Russia: 5, 15, 10, 20, 25, 50 (75) kopeks and the 1 rouble.

France: 20, 25, 50 centimos, 1, 2 and 5 francs.

Switzerland: 5 rappen (Billon and other), 10, 20 (also in coppernickel) 1/2, 1, 2 and 5 franken.

Spain: 20 and 50 centimes, 1, 2 and 5 peseta.

Italy: 50 centesimi, 1, 2 and 5 lira.
Belgium: 20 centimi, 1/4, 1/2, 1, 2 and 5 franc.

Austria-Hungary: (10 and 20 heller:other) 1, 2 and 5 corona.

Greece: 20 lepta, 1/2, 1, 2 and 5 drachma.

Romania: 50 bani, 1, 2 and 5 leu.
Luxembourg: 50 cent, 1 and 2 franc.
Serbia: 10 and 20 para: other. 50 para, 1, 2 and 5 Dinar.
Tunisia: 50 centimi, 1, 2 and 5 franc.
Monaco: 5 francs.

And last...The gold!

Finland: 10 and 20 markkaa.
Russia: 3 (also platinum), 5, 7.5, 10, 15, 20, 25, 37 1/2 roubles.
France: 10, 20, 40, 50 and 100 francs.
Switzerland: 10 and 20 francs.
Spain: 10, 20, 25 and 100 peseta.
Italy: 10, 20, 40, 50 and 100 lire.
Belgium: 10, 20, 25 and 100 franc.
Austria-Hungary: 10, 20 and 100 corona.
Greece: 10 and 20 drachma.
Romania: 20 Lei.
Luxembourg: NONE
Serbia: 10 and 20 dinar.
Tunisia: 10 and 20 francs.
Monaco: 20 and 100 francs.

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Quote: "Monninen1"​Just asking, does anybody own coins from the times of the LMU?
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​I have some but not many:
​First, Finland - The country where i have most coins from:
​about 10 1 penniä coins and the amount of 5 (or 4) 5 penniä coins and the same amount of 10 penniä coins, and 2pcs 25 penniä coins but also 3pcs 50 penniä coins.
​Larger silver coins: 2 of both 1 and 2 markkaa coins. One with thin lettering and one with the thicker lettering.
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​And then there is the jewel of my collection: The 20 markkaa-1879 gold coin (as large as the french gold 20 franc)! a 6.4 gram gold coin that was the most worth coin of Finland, probably ever. It could be used to buy a horse. We could even say it is not worth as much as it was in the 1880's, when either a hard working man kept it as his only treasure, or a rich Russian businessman kept it in his secret vault. Nobody knows. It can be both!
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​I also have some coins from the Russian empire:
​-1/4 ,¹/², 1, 2, 3, 5(copper and silver), 10, 15 and 20 kopek coins. And I must not forget the silver rouble coin.
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​I am trying to get atleast one coin from every LMU member nation (France, Italy, Switzerland, belgium, spain, austria-hungary, greece, romania, serbia, colonies of france, and the others)

​For the ignorant among us, please tell us what the LMU is and what time frame is was in. Thanks.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Latin_Monetary_Union

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Quote: "Monninen1"​Just asking, does anybody own coins from the times of the LMU?
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​​I have some but not many:
​​First, Finland - The country where i have most coins from:
​​about 10 1 penniä coins and the amount of 5 (or 4) 5 penniä coins and the same amount of 10 penniä coins, and 2pcs 25 penniä coins but also 3pcs 50 penniä coins.
​​Larger silver coins: 2 of both 1 and 2 markkaa coins. One with thin lettering and one with the thicker lettering.
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​​And then there is the jewel of my collection: The 20 markkaa-1879 gold coin (as large as the french gold 20 franc)! a 6.4 gram gold coin that was the most worth coin of Finland, probably ever. It could be used to buy a horse. We could even say it is not worth as much as it was in the 1880's, when either a hard working man kept it as his only treasure, or a rich Russian businessman kept it in his secret vault. Nobody knows. It can be both!
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​​I also have some coins from the Russian empire:
​​-1/4 ,¹/², 1, 2, 3, 5(copper and silver), 10, 15 and 20 kopek coins. And I must not forget the silver rouble coin.
​​
​​I am trying to get atleast one coin from every LMU member nation (France, Italy, Switzerland, belgium, spain, austria-hungary, greece, romania, serbia, colonies of france, and the others)
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​​For the ignorant among us, please tell us what the LMU is and what time frame is was in. Thanks.
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Latin Monetary Union
​It is a monetary union, so almost all of the countries they tried to use same size copper and silver coins. There usually was some small copper coins, about the same sized silver coins and the same sized gold coins that all the countries minted. Actually also as wikipedia says, many countries not in the Union minted the same sized coins.

Almost every country had an 6.45 gram gold coin. For example the 20 franc, 7.5 roubles, 20 markkaa and many more. Almost all of the currencies were worth the same (Russia atleast had different denomination gold coins)
One LMU franc weighted 4.5 grams and was silver.
The papal states issued coins to circulate in other countries. Italy and France rejected the papal coins. They later kicked the papal states out of the LMU.

The LMU suffered a lot in the first world war. In 1927 the LMU stopped and all the countries started to issue their very own coins. And 70 years later, we again have a monetary union, the EMU.

France didn't issue 'centimos'

The LMU did not limit itself to Europe. Many Latin American countries followed the standards as well. For example, the Venezuelan Bolivar was worth the same as the LMU Francs. And the Peruvian Sol, Argentine Peso and many other similar currencies were worth exactly 5 Francs at some time in history. This was in contrast to the US Dollar or Mexican Peso, which were worth slightly more than 5 Francs (5.18 to be exact).

Quote: "CassTaylor"​France didn't issue 'centimos'
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​Oops! I mean centimes
Called also "cent".
That post was the last thing I did yesterday midnight, after that I fell right asleep.
I wonder what the monacoan coins and the vatican coins are worth. I actually also forgot the vatican coins because I did not find them but they are here:

1 centesimi, 1/2 soldo (2 1/2 centesimi), 1 soldo (5 centesimi), 2 soldi (10 centesimi), 4 soldi (20 centesimi)

Silver:
5 soldi 25 centesimi, 10 soldi 50 centesimi, 1 lira, 2 lire and 5 lire.

Gold:
5 lire, 10 lire, 20 lire, 50 lire and 100 lire.
Money has always been quite a business to the vatican.

Quote: "jokinen"​The LMU did not limit itself to Europe. Many Latin American countries followed the standards as well. For example, the Venezuelan Bolivar was worth the same as the LMU Francs. And the Peruvian Sol, Argentine Peso and many other similar currencies were worth exactly 5 Francs at some time in history. This was in contrast to the US Dollar or Mexican Peso, which were worth slightly more than 5 Francs (5.18 to be exact).

​True! I only added the LMU members of europe. Others would have needed even more research. I could do that soon. Also the Russian rouble was much more. As other countries issued gold coins that were worth -20- russia had a 7.5 rouble coin that had the same amount of gold. Finnish markka = LMU coin standards but as Russian rouble was 4 times more worth than the four times more than the LMU coin worth -1-

what is your personal favourite LMU coin? Id say either
https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces11215.html
or maybe one of the gold coins worth 20 or
https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces6340.html
There are many beautiful coins.

That's why I like collecting this kind of coinage - the collection looks uniform and consistent.

Cent. is an abbreviation of either centime, centesimi, centavos, or centimos that became popular in the english speaking world I believe.

Here's my favourite LMU coin, shame it stayed an Essai coin:
https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces27717.html

Im buying some LMU coins today. Lets see what I find!
EDIT: Got a portugal XX REIS (About same size as LMU coinage), 1/2 mark 1907 F, 5 Bani 1906 (Now Im sad because there was a 1907 one with the same price and I did not take it) and Austria-Habsburg 4 kreuzer!

Quote: "Monninen1"​Im buying some LMU coins today. Lets see what I find!
​EDIT: Got a portugal XX REIS (About same size as LMU coinage), 1/2 mark 1907 F, 5 Bani 1906 (Now Im sad because there was a 1907 one with the same price and I did not take it) and Austria-Habsburg 4 kreuzer!

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20 Reis was worth 11.2 Centimes of the LMU. Portugal was not part of the LMU, and neither Germany. The German Mark was worth around 1.25 Francs. And the 4 Kreuzer was 8.4 Centimes.

But we definitely share our interest in the 1850-1918 era coinage! :-)

Quote: "jokinen"​

Quote: "Monninen1"​Im buying some LMU coins today. Lets see what I find!
​​EDIT: Got a portugal XX REIS (About same size as LMU coinage), 1/2 mark 1907 F, 5 Bani 1906 (Now Im sad because there was a 1907 one with the same price and I did not take it) and Austria-Habsburg 4 kreuzer!

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​20 Reis was worth 11.2 Centimes of the LMU. Portugal was not part of the LMU, and neither Germany. The German Mark was worth around 1.25 Francs. And the 4 Kreuzer was 8.4 Centimes.
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​But we definitely share our interest in the 1850-1918 era coinage! :-)

​Well..."close"
But really beautiful coins! The fact that theyre antique sometimes makes me wonder what is the story of the coin. Has a poor man used it to buy bread once, or has it been kept in a chest (oh well chests were old fashioned already then probably), full of other coins alike. And the coinage looks so similar, only 4 metals used first (+ later coppernickel, brass etc.) And they remind me of the old world, the time of empires and monarchies, and the WW1 coinage, the early communist coinage, occupied zones coinage and iron WW1 coinage. So beautiful.

I aim on getting all the LMU silver (and copper) coins that dont cost very much. Expecially the large silver ones, over 10g. I'll get about one a week or so. Note: 1/2 mark is not a LMU coin.
It would be nice to get a picture with all or most of the LMU coins together. My larger aim is to get all the 19th century coins excluding the rare ones.