Show your graded (slabbed) coins

I don't have any graded coins (I had Bavarian 2 marks graded by PCGS two years ago but now it's gone), but I would love to see some shiny beauties slabbed by NGC or PCGS. What do you think about slabbing coins? Is it worth to send your coins to PCGS/NGC? What do you think about Italian style of grading, 'perizia' (photo below).

I used to have a slab, but not any longer. I was happily surprised to find out that a number of Numista members don't like slabs either and crack them open.

I still have a number of ICCS holders (see Peter's photo in the post linked to). But before I cut them open, I'll play a fun little game with the Numista community (except Neil ). It should be very instructive ... I'll do it when I receive my latest purchase.

This is one of 7 slabbed coins I have. The other 6 are from Poland. 4 are graded PR69 and 2 are graded PR70, although I have no idea what it means except 70 is a little better that 69.
How high do the numbers go?


Peru. 1 New Sol. 2002 KM#334. Meeting of two worlds (label words)

The numbers go up to 70. 70 is perfect with NO flaws whatsoever. 69 means there might be a microscopic hair line somewhere.

Nathan,
Is there lower numbers than 69?

Do they put them under a microscope to ascertain the grade? Who carries out this process? Sorry for my questions, but I just bought the Peru coin because I did not have it in my collection. Same with the Poland coins. Also found a MS69. Assuming this is for non proof coins. It is also from Poland.
This is getting interesting.

There are indeed numbers lower than 69, and they do use a microscope.

An employee of the grading service does the work, I think most companies actually have two people grade it independently of each other, if they don't agree then it's sent to their boss to make the decision. And yes it's pretty much as subjective as it sounds.

PR is for Proof coins, then there's MS for Mint State.

Then you have AU (Almost Uncirculated), EF (Extremely Fine), VF (Very Fine), F (Fine), VG (Very Good), G (Good), AG (Almost Good), FR (Fair) and P (Poor). I'm sure you recognise all those. There are number grades applied to those as well.

It's my experience that these grades are a bit of a moving target, it seems like the numbers are subjective depending on both the service and the employee doing the work. And the recommendation by some to get your coins regraded periodically due to changes in the system is a bit questionable if you ask me.

I hope I didn't step on any toes with my answer.

MonaSeaclaid,
I think the forum is open for answers from anyone, which I gladly accept, as it means I get closer to the final conclusion.
Also, it has diverted a little from the original question, so, not only have I shown one of my slabbed coins but obtained some great information about slabbed coinage.
You learn something new everyday, and today is no exception.
If 70 is the best, I assume it goes down to a low number, which means the complete opposite of proof

My grading system works best, these are the following grades:

Shiny and purty
Worn but cool
Dull and worn
Dirty and ugly
Walk away now

Makes collecting easy!

I have a few will upload them. None were bought for the slab. Hence the fact the highest grade I have is MS63.

Ive broken 2 out, one being a AU55 Bahamas penny and my EF details 1/4 Anchor Dollar.

For many years the slabbers told us that MS70 was only a hypothetical grade, that the perfect coin just didn't exist. Now they take orders in bulk from volume sellers where the grades have been agreed on before the coins have even arrived. How much integrity can these pirates have when it's possible to pre order 1,000 MS70 coins months before they are issued by the mint?

So all those old collectors who were quite rightly proud of their collection of ultimate grade MS69 coins suddenly found that the ground had shifted under their feet and a collection worth thousands on Friday was worth only hundreds on Monday. Same coin, but the grades had changed. They had a choice; either accept that the value of their collection had been drastically reduced or spend the money to resubmit them to get the nice new MS70 tag.

Once these people draw you into their racket you can't escape. They used to provide some value in certifying that a coin was genuine but now even that is questionable as the Chinese are faking the slab as well as the coin.

Not a big fan.

Quote: "pnightingale"​For many years the slabbers told us that MS70 was only a hypothetical grade, that the perfect coin just didn't exist. Now they take orders in bulk from volume sellers where the grades have been agreed on before the coins have even arrived. How much integrity can these pirates have when it's possible to pre order 1,000 MS70 coins months before they are issued by the mint?
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​So all those old collectors who were quite rightly proud of their collection of ultimate grade MS69 coins suddenly found that the ground had shifted under their feet and a collection worth thousands on Friday was worth only hundreds on Monday. Same coin, but the grades had changed. They had a choice; either accept that the value of their collection had been drastically reduced or spend the money to resubmit them to get the nice new MS70 tag.
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​Once these people draw you into their racket you can't escape. They used to provide some value in certifying that a coin was genuine but now even that is questionable as the Chinese are faking the slab as well as the coin.
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​Not a big fan.

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Ive only once considered sending a coin for grading and that’s my Ackey. But I’ve since shown it to multiple dealers who are all happy with it, several members who are and ultimately I can sleep at night. The seller whom I bought it from is a really legit guy too. His collection is extremely or was extremely like mine. Except it was obvious he had money too buy top end stuff like Ackeys and fort Marlboro 2 Sukus etc.. no different to what I would do if I won the lotto !

All the slabbed coins I have.

Still feel like breaking them out but right now I have no better strorage for them. As you can see some of these coins are hard to get especially the 2 Pice. The German coins are also fairly arkward to get especially now they aren’t allowed to be shipped out of Germany !

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​Still feel like breaking them out but right now I have no better strorage for them. As you can see some of these coins are hard to get especially the 2 Pice. The German coins are also fairly arkward to get especially now they aren’t allowed to be shipped out of Germany !
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​Wait, why aren't they allowed to be shipped out of Germany?

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​​Still feel like breaking them out but right now I have no better strorage for them. As you can see some of these coins are hard to get especially the 2 Pice. The German coins are also fairly arkward to get especially now they aren’t allowed to be shipped out of Germany !
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​​Wait, why aren't they allowed to be shipped out of Germany?

​there’s some rule that was brought in recently not allowing Historic artefacts to be removed from the country and that includes coins !

It's hard to judge on a photo, but I'm surprised about the high gradings of coin 2,3,4 !?
Allthough they are nice coins, they look used and scratchy, below xf?

2 has had previous cleaning but has since retoned, 3 I am surprised with getting an AU50 although it’s not scratched just slightly worn I would have said it was more like XF and 4 again has some wear but the general fault on this coin is that it’s poorly struck.