This coin is with the indication of the mint FM
but no indication is given to detect on the coins.
Could someone help me to se if a coin of this type has mint FM?
Moreover, there is no referee for The Bahamas thus there is no one to ask
Good night
"FM" stands for the Franklin Mint in the US. That should be said on the coin's page. I believe the small monogram just above the date is the "FM" mint mark.
EDIT: Cerulean beat me to the finish line!
I have just sent a correction to the catalogue page, or rather an addition in the form of a comment to explain what FM is and where it is.
It's always the same mint mark (no matter for which country the Franklin Mint struck coins), but it's not always above the date. It can be anywhere on the coin, depending on the coin type.
Sometimes it's very easy to spot, sometimes a bit more difficult, certainly if you don't know where to look.
Here are some examples for the Bahamas coins:
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"I believe the small monogram just above the date is the "FM" mint mark."
It's not a monogram. It's a stylised big F on small M, forming together the FM mint mark, as you can see on the enlargement:
Quote: "Camerinvs"Just a little correction: it is a monogram. See for example the Wikipedia or Webster definition.
You are so right!
Since around 40 years (since my first Krause) I always connected the word "monogram" to a letter or combination of letters of kings and other rulers. Understandable of course because all the monograms in Krause (except for C for Cayenne and VOC for Dutch East India Company) are monograms of kings/rulers. So now, after all these years I found out that a monogram is much more than only for kings and rulers. You see, never to old to learn something.
And I noticed something else, which I find strange. In all the paper editions of Krause you can find some pages with "monograms" and "instant identifiers". In the digital editions however, there isn't any with "monograms" on it and only 1 with "instant identifiers".
Ah, I see. I'm wondering now whether there is actually a special name for a royal monogram? I can't think of any right now, except for the Ottoman tughra.
For those interested, examples of private monograms are found on "love tokes", such as on many of those ones. I disagree with the seller of that love token, though, since the three letters are separate. He seems to assume that a monogram is just fancy initials. Yes, they can be that, but they must be an overlapping combination of letters.
Thanks to this discussion I'm discovering that the Franklin Mint is striking quite a few official issues. And thanks, Essor Prof, for posting the different locations of their mint mark; that's good to know.
Quote: "Camerinvs"Thanks to this discussion I'm discovering that the Franklin Mint is striking quite a few official issues. And thanks, Essor Prof, for posting the different locations of their mint mark; that's good to know.
Franklin Mint is best known for their proof sets in the seventies. Most known countries they struck for are Bahamas, Belize, British Virgin Islands, Guyana, Jamaica, Panama, Papua New Guinea. But also for the Philippines for instance.
In 1969 they also struck a Tunisian proof set (10 different one dinar Silver proof coins).
They also struck some big proof series: Discovery of America, Great Explorers, Treasure Coins of the Caribbean, Millennium Coins.
By the way, the Franklin Mint stopped producing coins in 2003.
I didn't know they had stopped minting coins. I thought that would be a lucrative enough business for them to maintain it, but I see from the Wikipedia page that there were many changes in ownership since the 1980s. From their website I see they still sell coins ─or pseudo-coins as I like to call them─ but obviously not struck by them.
Very interesting. I had not realized that we were not seeing any longer their glossy inserts advertising what I like to call deluxe trash. It seems Australia and Canada, with their Mickey Mouse coins, have taken over... And the same thing is happening now ─ such issues are overpriced and will never increase in value, unless so many "$20 for $20" issues are sent back to the silver melting pot that few remain.
And yet the Franklin Mint was competent enough to produce coins for general circulation as well, as they did for the Bahamas.
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The Micky Mouse coins from Australia are 95% produced by the Perth Mint. They no longer make circulating currency and seem to specialise in bullion or coloured coins that are not the correct standard size and are very overpriced. They just churn them out like there is no tomorrow. The Australian catalogue on here is littered with them and I wish we could separate them from the real currency but alas I know it can't be done.
In case you and others didn't know, you can separate them by using the "advanced search" option. Look at the number of pages before and after.
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