Micronations are now listed as countries, but they will be counted separately.
We will be adding new micronations into catalogue from exonumia, but ONLY those which actually put coins into circulation on some territorry. (So no Moon republics or Antarctica)
We identified so far Mollosia and Christiania, but we would like to add more. That is the task I would want to delegate - find those with territory and real circulating "coin".
Quote: "Jarcek"Micronations are now listed as countries, but they will be counted separately.
We will be adding new micronations into catalogue from exonumia, but ONLY those which actually put coins into circulation on some territorry. (So no Moon republics or Antarctica)
We identified so far Mollosia and Christiania, but we would like to add more. That is the task I would want to delegate - find those with territory and real circulating "coin".
Micro-nations as in recognised ones (Vatican City, San Marino, Monaco etc) or the 'fake' ones (Sealand, Hutt River, etc)? If it's the latter then I might be interested (after I've sorted out Haiti of course).
I am interested too. I could research micronations such as Molossia from RL USA and Christiania and Kingdom of Elleore from RL Denmark.
However, I think it won't be so interesting for all the collectors to have a very long list of Microstates and all fiction government. They need to be separated and not so seriously taken as real countries.
Numista referee for Liechtenstein, Ragusa and Saint Barthelemy
They will be separated. I am looking for those that have some territorry and circulated coins, that means they have micronation in practice and not just fantasy one.
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How about this?
Molossia?
Molossia sells a variety of products in person and online, including homemade soap and signed photographs of the Baughs.[5][14][15] Cinderella stamps are also produced by Molossia through its Postal and Telegraph Service.[16]
Molossia's currency is the valora, which is subdivided into 100 futtrus and pegged to the relative value of Pillsbury cookie dough.[17] Cookie dough is stored in an outbuilding called the Bank of Molossia, from which valora coins made from gambling chips and printed "banknotes" are sold https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Republic_of_Molossia
top 3 coins (i think the 4th is a fantasy made by someone else) https://en.numista.com/catalogue/index.php?r=molossia&p=1&x=0&y=0
Also, can we replace the condition of "circulating" coins by "official" coins?
this would allow many "states" to be added, and only keep aside virtual states, or chinese/dealers made fantasies.
Quote: "AmerSalmeh"... may we replace the condition of "circulating" coins by "official" coins?
+1
Seconding the +1, but to be honest, most micronational coinage is "official" (authorized by the micronation in question), so that might be too wide for what we're looking for.
Mind you, even with "circulating", we get a range from French city euros to Haagse Blufjes (I have one!) to legitimate micronational currency (Seborga, Lundy, some early Hutt River types...) to assorted SCA realms (whose "coins" circulated at SCA events).
[Not Tatarstan, though - those are obvious merchandise tokens, what are they even doing in the main catalogue?]
OTOH, even the "official" definition would clearly exclude the Shire Post Mint and Blue Waters Mint issues (the ones where the would-be issuer is fictional and/or entirely made up, and thus is unable to authorize the currency), or indeed many other fantasy issues (such as the assorted backdated coins of the Republic of Crimea, which existed for only about 24 hours and never authorized any coinage).
Damanhur: The Federation of Damanhur is a community in Northern Italy that does not claim to be a micronation as far as I know, but they have their own currency and flag, as well as an amazing temple complex dug out under a mountain. For years 10, 20 and 50 cali coins as well as 1, 2, 5, 10, 20, 25 and 50 crediti coins (1 credito = 100 cali) have circulated, the Damanhur coins I have mostly come from circulation in their supermarket and restaurants, but the latest I heared is that due to the corona crisis they mostly went cashless. For adding Damanhur, the choice could be made to call the chapter ‘local currency’. That way, leperosa coinage and WWII ghetto and concentration camp money could be added as well there, instead of being ’banned' to Exonumia. Currency from a micronation could be considered local currency, until the micronation gets (limited) U.N. recognition, giving it a ‘higher status’.
Liberland: Here is a YouTube video showing the first 'transaction' (starts at about 23:15) with a Liberland coin on Liberland claimed land, seconds later the Croatian police came, just failing to prevent this. A Liberland flag was also placed on the island. Apparently the police tried to erase the videos, but specialists managed to recover the footage: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jb8T9X5K1AA
Westarctica potentially in case Molossia gets accepted and in case having issued commemorative coins only is enough to be mentioned on the coin side at some point, like the country Palau: Molossia and Westarctica have both issued commemorative coins regarding their mutual friendship.
Besides coins I love geometry. The avatar consists of each of the 35 hexominoes used precisely once. With the 5 large yellow shapes placed like this, the solution for tiling the remaining 30 hexominoes is unique.
The Principality of Hutt River no longer exists, as it was forced to dissolve itself in late 2020.
Other micronations that no longer exist includes the Independent State of Rainbow Creek & the Riviera Principality.
Aidan.
This Riviera Principality $1 coin on eBay is not listed on Numista, it looks like it has circulated a little: https://www.ebay.nl/itm/386110328723
Anyone here willing to buy it for 750 U.K. pounds in order to have the honor of listing it? (I'm passing on this one, in spite of having a micronation collection)
Besides coins I love geometry. The avatar consists of each of the 35 hexominoes used precisely once. With the 5 large yellow shapes placed like this, the solution for tiling the remaining 30 hexominoes is unique.
I’ve crossed through the micronation of the Republic of Rathnelly many times during my afternoon walks, it’s a lovely suburban nation bordered on all sides by mid-town Toronto
I have nearly all of their stamps from 1929 to 2020s. They may have the longest history of issuing stamps as a not recognised country.
Coins are a bit harder, the coins are all basically “Fantasies” yet the eagerly collected ones are the 1929 1 and ½ Puffin bronze coins. Slightly smaller than real pennies and halfpence, the maker Martin Coles Harman was fined £5 in 1933 for making them. However they were used on Lundy and represented Puffinage. I have 3 of them, a UNC pair and a more used extra puffin (Penny).
The coins had “Buy Lundy lights and leads” on the edge!
Further coins were issued in 1965, 1977 and 2011 and these are all considered complete fantasies, whereas at least these 2 were minted by Heaton and have some clout in the collecting world. Fantasies include a 1965 dated pair of 1 and ½ puffin in gold! 1977 pair in bronze and a set in 2011 of ½, 1, 2½, 4 and 6 puffins in various metals. There are probably more I don't know about.
I love coins. Especially silver, gold and anything really old.
Member of the Royal Numismatic Society of New Zealand and the Auckland Numismatic Society
I have nearly all of their stamps from 1929 to 2020s. They may have the longest history of issuing stamps as a not recognised country.
Coins are a bit harder, the coins are all basically “Fantasies” yet the eagerly collected ones are the 1929 1 and ½ Puffin bronze coins. Slightly smaller than real pennies and halfpence, the maker Martin Coles Harman was fined £5 in 1933 for making them. However they were used on Lundy and represented Puffinage. I have 3 of them, a UNC pair and a more used extra puffin (Penny).
The coins had “Buy Lundy lights and leads” on the edge!
Further coins were issued in 1965, 1977 and 2011 and these are all considered complete fantasies, whereas at least these 2 were minted by Heaton and have some clout in the collecting world. Fantasies include a 1965 dated pair of 1 and ½ puffin in gold! 1977 pair in bronze and a set in 2011 of ½, 1, 2½, 4 and 6 puffins in various metals. There are probably more I don't know about.
The ones dated 2011 are totally bogus.
The 1965 ones were released to commemorate 40 years of ownership of Lundy by Martin Coles Harman & his family.
The ones dated 1977 were released for 25 Years of Queen Elizabeth II's Reign - & those were unknown until fairly recently.