June is for Judaea. Always been meaning to get coins from here, but somewhat difficult to get nice coins that haven't been tampered with. Most of the coins that are readily available are either tooled or have fake desert patina added to them .
Ancient Judaea, Herodian Kingdom: Herod I (40 BCE-4 CE) Æ 8 Prutot, Uncertain mint in Samaria, RY 3 (Hendin 1169; TJC 44)
Obv: Helmet with cheek guards surmounted by star; above to either side, palm branch
Rev: BAΣIΛEΩΣ HPΩΔOY; tripod lebes; in left field, L Γ; in right field, monogram
Ancient Judaea, Procuratorial: Valerius Gratus (15-26 CE) Æ Prutah, Jerusalem, RY 4 of Tiberius (Hendin 1338; TJC 327; RPC 4964)
Obv: TIB/KAI/CAP in three lines within wreath
Rev: IOY ΛIA; Upright palm branch; across field, L Δ
Ancient Judaea, Procuratorial: Valerius Gratus (15-26 CE) Æ Prutah, Jerusalem, RY 4 of Tiberius (Hendin 1336; TJC 326)
Obv: IOY ΛIA; vine leaf and small bunch of grapes
Rev: Narrow-necked amphora with scroll handles; across field, L Δ
Ancient Judaea, Herodian Kingdom: Agrippa I (37-44 CE) Æ Prutah, Jerusalem, RY 6 (Hendin 1244; TJC 120)
Obv: BACIΛEOC AΓPIΠΠA; umbrella-like canopy
Rev: Three grain ears; across field, date L ς
Someone I know went out of town to a conference and picked these out for me:
From top left moving clockwise: Mexico 100 pesos, 1985. Chosen for Carranza's epic beard ; United Kingdom 2 shillings, 1962; Canadian token, called a Kwakiutl Dollar, worth $1 in 1977, used in British Columbia to celebrate First Nations tribes; Canadian token celebrating the country's 100th birthday in 1967, these were given out in schools to all the kids as a keepsake.
I'd like to get a better photo of that Kwakiutl Dollar, a large portion of it is rainbow toned and Mungo Martin's face is so beautifully carved into the coin.
Great additions! What I like most about these topics is the wide variety of coins people collect, from the ancients of Quant.Greek to 90's chuck e cheese tokens, you'll literally find every kind of specialisation here!
"For by telling them of many things without teaching them you will make them seem to know much, while for the most part they know nothing"
-Plato
Just got back from a coin fair held at the Royal Dutch Mint. Probably the last time it was held there, since the Belgians now run it and they'll move the production line of the Mint to another location, which is yet to be announced. Also, I got to see the making of the Jamaican 10$ coin, so I can now officially confirm that the 2017 Jamaican 10$ is minted in Utrecht!
Oh yeah, before I forget, these are the things I got there:
EDIT: I just started to update my collection with these new additions and to my surprise I found out that the 4th coin on the right of the third row of coins actually is pretty rare: it's a 1911 Siamese 10 Satang coin with a mintage of only 500,000!
"For by telling them of many things without teaching them you will make them seem to know much, while for the most part they know nothing"
-Plato
Quote: "Lotus07"Just got back from a coin fair held at the Royal Dutch Mint. Probably the last time it was held there, since the Belgians now run it and they'll move the production line of the Mint to another location, which is yet to be announced. Also, I got to see the making of the Jamaican 10$ coin, so I can now officially confirm that the 2017 Jamaican 10$ is minted in Utrecht!
Oh yeah, before I forget, these are the things I got there:
EDIT: I just started to update my collection with these new additions and to my surprise I found out that the 4th coin on the right of the third row of coins actually is pretty rare: it's a 1911 Siamese 10 Satang coin with a mintage of only 500,000!
Nice banknotes! And even one from my country among them :)
Quote: "Lotus07"Just got back from a coin fair held at the Royal Dutch Mint. Probably the last time it was held there, since the Belgians now run it and they'll move the production line of the Mint to another location, which is yet to be announced. Also, I got to see the making of the Jamaican 10$ coin, so I can now officially confirm that the 2017 Jamaican 10$ is minted in Utrecht!
Oh yeah, before I forget, these are the things I got there:
EDIT: I just started to update my collection with these new additions and to my surprise I found out that the 4th coin on the right of the third row of coins is actually pretty rare: it's a 1911 Siamese 10 Satang coin with a mintage of just 500,000!
Nice banknotes! And even one from my country among them :)
Thank you for the compliment! May I ask which one is of your native country? :)
Also, I'm not trying to be annoying, but could you in advance not quote any images? Otherwise topics get extremely long and it'll take forever to load the web page! :)
"For by telling them of many things without teaching them you will make them seem to know much, while for the most part they know nothing"
-Plato
Quote: "druzhynets"Ukraine.
Regarding banknotes, I've only started collecting them this year and already have 51 different country. Nice and cheap enough.
Sounds good! I hope you'll build up a nice collection. :)
"For by telling them of many things without teaching them you will make them seem to know much, while for the most part they know nothing"
-Plato
I received three packages over the last two days, all late, so it was getting stressful.
Here is part of a lot of 103 coins:
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Ideally, I should have taken the coins out of the holders, which I'll do eventually. The Newfoundland 10¢ are scarce at best. The mintage for 1885 was 8000!! I didn't even know this was in the lot until I received it.
Only three additions in the first half of the month ...
'1794 Braintree and Bocking half penny token'
'1792 Isle of Wight Halfpenny Token'
'Trade Tokens, Shire Album 79, Jim Newmark' [32 illustrated pages]
I have wanted a book on tokens for a while, so I can see which (not many) I do not yet have.
I don't know yet who Warren at 958 Queen East is. This is probably in Toronto, though other Canadian cities have a Queen Street with East vs. West numbers. There is a Queen Street in Saint-John's, but too short for E-W division, though it may have been different a century ago.
EDIT: Mmmhhh ... This is a Warren on Queen Street in Niagara, Ontario:
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Same business?? The problem is that this Directory is from 1851, i.e. at least 45 years earlier than the countermark. But it is something to investigate further.
EDIT 2: With a street number of 958, however, Toronto is much more likely. It looks like there were no street numbers yet in Niagara in the early 1900s. No Warren matches this one in the Ontario Gazetteer & Directory for 1888-89 or 1910-11. So, I suspect he is a little later, perhaps as late as the 1920s.
EDIT 3: If it is Toronto, there was no street number 958 on Queen East in 1903 (Toronto City Directory 1903, p. 208):
BUT: the numbering system suggest there was an empty space there, and we now know we're on Queen East between Verrall and Carlaw, though I have yet to find out whether these avenues still bear the same name ... Let me check ... YES:
That will make it much easier to pursue this trail and determine whether or not Warren was in Toronto and what kind of business it was.
The Shoppers' Drug Mart is # 970, and there's a # 935 across the street, so it is the same numbering system as a century ago. I suspect the old 958, if it ever existed, and adjacent buildings were demolished to make room for a large, modern building in which the Shoppers' Drug Mart is now located.
EDIT 4: Ah Ah! There was a 958 Queen East by 1926, when it is vacant:
EDIT 5: Actually, it looks like # 960 was renumbered # 958. Frank Denning, a Butcher, "moved" from # 960 to 958, but there is no # 960 left once # 958 appears in the Directories. These are from the 1922 and 1923 Directories:
1922: 1923:
Unfortunately, I can't find Directories that are later than 1926 in archive.org.
Not really new, per say, but I just had some time to take some pics from the Roman lot I bought two months ago. Here is one of them:
Roman Imperial: Constantine I the Great (307-337) Æ Follis, Constantinople (RIC VII 22)
Obv: CONSTANTINVS MAX AVG; head with rosette diadem
Rev: GLORIA EXERCITVS; Soldier holding reversed spear in right, left hand on shield S in left field; CONS in exergue
Roman Imperial: Arcadius (378-383 CE) AE2, Constantinople (RIC IX 53b)
Obv: D N ARCADIVS P F AVG; pearl-diademed, draped and cuirassed bust right, holding spear and shield; Hand of God above holding wreath
Rev: GLORIA ROMANORVM; emperor standing facing, head left, holding standard and resting shield at side, bound captive seated on ground to left, head right; CONΓ star in exergue
Thank you. That coin got my attention after reading this topic (https://en.numista.com/forum/topic60465.html) and I couldn't resist when I bumped into the coin a few days later.
How much fun is that?
I'll take a look through my sources and see what I can find if you'd like. I've spent a lot of time in archives.
That's a lot of fun indeed. What's interesting in this case is that this c/m is not known to Brunk, so if I find out who Warren was, this is new information and a new Canadian c/m unknown until now.
Since I'm interested in foreign coins with Canadian c/ms, that would be a new one since Newfoundland was its own Dominion.
I think there's no 1927 or later directories in archive.org because of copyright law. So, I'll probably have to go to the Toronto Public Library at some point. But yes, indeed, if you can find something, Mona, that would be much appreciated.
Quote: "Camerinvs"Three acquisitions so far this weekend:
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I don't know yet who Warren at 958 Queen East is. This is probably in Toronto, though other Canadian cities have a Queen Street with East vs. West numbers. There is a Queen Street in Saint-John's, but too short for E-W division, though it may have been different a century ago.
EDIT: Mmmhhh ... This is a Warren on Queen Street in Niagara, Ontario:
Same business?? The problem is that this Directory is from 1851, i.e. at least 45 years earlier than the countermark. But it is something to investigate further.
EDIT 2: With a street number of 958, however, Toronto is much more likely. It looks like there were no street numbers yet in Niagara in the early 1900s. No Warren matches this one in the Ontario Gazetteer & Directory for 1888-89 or 1910-11. So, I suspect he is a little later, perhaps as late as the 1920s.
EDIT 3: If it is Toronto, there was no street number 958 on Queen East in 1903 (Toronto City Directory 1903, p. 208):
BUT: the numbering system suggest there was an empty space there, and we now know we're on Queen East between Verrall and Carlaw, though I have yet to find out whether these avenues still bear the same name ... Let me check ... YES:
That will make it much easier to pursue this trail and determine whether or not Warren was in Toronto and what kind of business it was.
The Shoppers' Drug Mart is # 970, and there's a # 935 across the street, so it is the same numbering system as a century ago. I suspect the old 958, if it ever existed, and adjacent buildings were demolished to make room for a large, modern building in which the Shoppers' Drug Mart is now located.
EDIT 4: Ah Ah! There was a 958 Queen East by 1926, when it is vacant:
EDIT 5: Actually, it looks like # 960 was renumbered # 958. Frank Denning, a Butcher, "moved" from # 960 to 958, but there is no # 960 left once # 958 appears in the Directories. These are from the 1922 and 1923 Directories:
Unfortunately, I can't find Directories that are later than 1926 in archive.org.
Great piece of research!
"For by telling them of many things without teaching them you will make them seem to know much, while for the most part they know nothing"
-Plato
I should contact them: they are in business not "since 1930" as they claim, but since 1928 at the latest.
EDIT 2: I just left a comment on their home page.
EDIT 3: The business has been at its current location since at least 1935 (Globe and Mail, October 9th 1935):
EDIT 4: This is from the same newspaper, December 8th 1956:
So, "H" stands for Howard. It looks like they lived at the back of the store or on the second floor, as people often did back then. Howard died two years almost to the day after his wife (Globe and Mail, December 10th 1958):
Here are their tombstones in St John's Cemetery Norway (Toronto):
Quote: "Camerinvs"I don't know whether Warren went out of business or moved to another location, but so far as my coin is concerned, the case is closed.
EDIT: And guess what: It's still in business:
I should contact them: they are in business not "since 1930" as they claim, but since 1928 at the latest.
EDIT 2: I just left a comment on their home page.
EDIT 3: The business has been at its current location since at least 1935:
Thats some amazing detective work indeed! I wonder why would Warren have counterstamped a NFLD coin? Was there a general reason to do such things in those days. The shop itself on google maps looks pretty shady lol. I notice its just east of the Distillery district after the don river but before woodbine
1─He may have countermarked any coin that he got in his till, and we happen to know of this one only.
2─He countermarked only foreign coins, perhaps because there were laws about defacing your own country's coins (as existed and still exist in many parts of the world) or because he wrongly thought it was illegal (though it may have been frowned upon).
Quote: "MonaSeaclaid"That's fantastic. Thanks for sharing!
I have two more theories.
1) He was a spy and that was used as a signal.
2) He wanted to mess with future coin enthusiasts.
Those are definitely two likely scenarios.
You know what really messes things up? Here is a picture of this 1896 50¢ with a 1898 50¢ coin on top:
Look at NEWFOUNDLAND ... or rather, look for something between the letters. Do you see it? This is mentioned nowhere in Charlton. If this is just a coincidence ─ wow!
Ok. So what you have there is an Obverse 1. The W in Newfoundland is about the same size, a little larger actually, as the rest of the letters. In an Obverse 2 the W is smaller. This difference appears on the 1896 and 1898 50 cent pieces. I don't have an 1898 piece but when I look at my 1896 pieces I do see it on the Obverse 1 but not the Obverse 2. And there's no mention of the dot in my Charlton guide either.
I agree I have Obv. 1 in both cases. I find it easiest to compare the upper lip (prominent vs. repressed). I checked elsewhere on the web and I see the same dot on other coins of both dates with Obv. 1, so it is not anything exceptional. Still, Charlton should have mentioned it.
Did they just re-use the 1896 die in 1898? That's what it looks like. Not surprisingly, I couldn't find any 1894 or 1899 with a dot.
FINAL EDIT: Here are the two locations:
1 ─ Before, at 958 Queen E (now the whole street front is # 970 = Shoppers Drug Mart, and note that # 954 is the same location as it was well over a century ago); 2 ─ Current location, at # 890:
The only coin I've recently added is the 2016 Gibraltar xmas 50p I had all of them from 2008 to present. Upon receiving it I noticed I have lost the 2013 issue I'm gutted can't find it anywhere !
Quote: "Camerinvs"Among other Newfoundland acquisitions:
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Rather low grade, but nice toning, strong reverse ─ and quite scarce!
Anyone knows why Newfoundland, until about 1890, needed more 20¢ and 50¢ coins to be minted than 5¢ and 10¢?
If I had to guess I would say it was because of the obscene amount of coins and tokens in use there already. There were huge numbers of merchant tokens and foreign coins in use there, all with different values. A lot of them were created or used to solve the issue of making change on barter agreements and the like, so they probably had a lot that were worth smaller amounts. The currency situation in general was pretty abysmal so it's possible they wanted an influx of coins that were valued higher than the provisional currency the people had created for themselves. That way you could get the ball rolling and then let the smaller denominations work themselves out a bit more gradually.
At some point I will go to archaeological reports and see what coins were found in different parts of British North America. Peter Moogk did that in his studies of coin circulation during the French regime.
There is probably much also in McCullough's book on Money and Change in Canada to 1900, which I have yet to read.
Today's options were:
A. Go camping and enjoy the scenery
B. Torex Coin Show in Toronto
Option B was the winner (but only because I got to have lunch with my son; he's growing peptides in between semesters).
One of only three Transport Tokens in my Charlton Catalogue.
TR-1 (Br # 900) Halifax Steamboat Company, est. mid to late 1800's. This service has been in operation from 1753 to today, between Halifax and Dartmouth, Nova Scotia. Dartmouth Ferry Commission purchased in 1890.
One of the famous "F D" countermarks by François Declos (or one of his imitators) in Port of Spain, Trinidad. This one was stamped over a British William IV ½d. I now have three such F D countermarks, one of which is probably Canadian rather than Trinidadian.
Obv: Emperor standing and facing, in right hand a long cross and in left hand a globus cruciger, crescent on 'T' , Greek letters ΛЄO to right downwards, all enclosed by beaded circle
Rev: جائز/ ضرب / دمشق, Capital M with monogram above and "officina" symbol (a downturned crescent) below, Arabic inscription to left downwards, Arabic inscription to right downwards, Arabic inscription in exergue (mint name), all enclosed by beaded circle
Yes, cross-cultural coins are very interesting. In my case, there isn't much of that. The first three coins in these pictures were received yesterday:
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The fourth (bottom right) was part of the lot of 103 coins mentioned a couple of weeks ago and will be up for swap at some point since I now have two 1865 Nfld 10¢ coins. My new 1865 10¢ (top right) is higher grade, but the head of the queen was scratched, and that was clearly intentional. Perhaps this was because of the tense Nfld political climate in the mid to late 1860s?
The 1873 10¢ is reported by Krause and Numista to exist in both "flat 3" and "round 3". The "flat 3" variety seems to be a phantom. I could find no example of it and it is not listed in Charlton nor on the Coins & Canada site. If any Newfoundland expert can confirm that, I'll then send a correction to the catalog administrator. Possibly someone mistakenly transposed the info for the Canada 1893 10¢ which comes in both of these varieties.
The mintage of the 1876 5¢ was 20,000. This is double the very low 10,000 mintage for the 10¢ of the same year, but for some reason the 5¢ trends at quite a higher price.
Those four coins are all rather low grade, but quite scarce.
EDIT: I just sent a correction to the catalog administrator for Newfoundland re: 10¢ 1873.
Quote: "COINMAN1"Present from my wife. Reason not yet sorted, but what the heck
Panama 20 Balboa 1977 KM#44 Vasco Nunez de Balboa (129.59gms 3.8544oz)
Complete with original box and certificates
The countermark reads "ED. ARP", but we know from other examples that it should read ED. ARPIN. He was identified as Edwin Arpin, a merchant in Sherbrooke, Quebec.
As so often, a wide range of stamps was used which seems to be a consequence of the shrinking number of stamp collectors. The two Elizabeth stamps were put in circulation in ... 1954! Perhaps if you open the picture in a new tab you will be able to see the date, lower right corner.
No ... I'm not collecting the date "1882" specifically. It's just a coincidence that three of the four are dated 1882.
Quote: "Camerinvs"Some more tokens and a countermarked coin:
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The countermark reads "ED. ARP", but we know from other examples that it should read ED. ARPIN. He was identified as Edwin Arpin, a merchant in Sherbrooke, Quebec.
As so often, a wide range of stamps was used which seems to be a consequence of the shrinking number of stamp collectors. The two Elizabeth stamps were put in circulation in ... 1954! Perhaps if you open the picture in a new tab you will be able to see the date, lower right corner.
No ... I'm not collecting the date "1882" specifically. It's just a coincidence that three of the four are dated 1882.
Only some stamps ? I have got a large variety of Russian stamps too.
Quote: "Subha Barua"Only some stamps ? I have got a large variety of Russian stamps too.
Oh! I have hundreds of stamps from coin sellers.
Here is an excerpt of an old but useful article by Robert McLachlan on the currency of Nova Scotia taken from the Proceedings and Transactions of the Royal Society of Canada for the Year 1892:
It lists two of my tokens (#24 and #25) as well as Peter's Halifax Ferry token (#27).
Interestingly, the description of the obverse of the Blakley token is at odds with that in the 1888 Gerald E. Hart auction catalogue:
Quote: "Subha Barua"Only some stamps ? I have got a large variety of Russian stamps too.
Oh! I have hundreds of stamps from coin sellers.
Here is an excerpt of an old but useful article by Robert McLachlan on the currency of Nova Scotia taken from the Proceedings and Transactions of the Royal Society of Canada for the Year 1892:
It lists two of my tokens (#24 and #25) as well as Peter's Halifax Ferry token (#27).
Interestingly, the description of the obverse of the Blakley token is at odds with that in the 1888 Gerald E. Hart auction catalogue:
Which one do you think is right?
Ahh!!! I admire those!!! What beautiful stamps !!!! But yes, I wanted to say I also have.
Probably will have to take another break after this. We had a big hail-storm come thru a couple weeks ago that did a lot of damage to the house. Even though the insurance policy will cover most of the repairs, there is still a sizeable deductible that's going to come out of my pocket.
Listed as a scarce variety in RIC. Still going through my Roman lot from a month or two ago...
Roman Imperial: Julian II (361-363CE) AE3, Antioch (RIC VIII 220)
Obv: D N FL CL IVLI_ANVS P F AVG; Helmeted, pearl-diademed, cuirassed bust left
Rev: VOT / X / MVLT / XX; Legend surrounded by laurel wreath terminating in circle; Palm ANTB palm in exergue
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; United Kingdom 2 shillings, 1962; Canadian token, called a Kwakiutl Dollar, worth $1 in 1977, used in British Columbia to celebrate First Nations tribes; Canadian token celebrating the country's 100th birthday in 1967, these were given out in schools to all the kids as a keepsake.
