Morocco coins [solved]

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Hi,
I have not found this two coins on Numista. Something help me?
First around 6 grams and 22-24 mm


thanks in advance

Andrea
Second around 3 grams and 16-17 mm

Andrea from Italy
Quote: "Andreacoins"​Hi,
​I have not found this two coins on Numista. Something help me?
​First around 6 grams and 22-24 mm


​thanks in advance

​Andrea
​Second around 3 grams and 16-17 mm

​Take a look between these:
Morocco - Falus (1672-1901)
https://en.numista.com/catalogue/maroc-1.html#devise462
Ciao Simone,
thank you for your message.
I looked in this section on Numista, but I have not found anything.
The big one may be is 2 falus 1277, but I'm not sure about what piece exactly
I have also Standard Catalog of World Coins XIX Century 3rd edition, but the book didn't help me.
About the small one I didn't see anything similar.
Any help?
Thanks in advance
Andrea from Italy
there are many varieties, as they are cast coins
http://www.zeno.ru/search.php?searchid=300779
Non est totum quod splendet ut aurum
Rijkdom bestaat niet uit het hebben van veel bezittingen, maar in het hebben van weinig behoeften
Thank you PetrusAscanus, interesting site. Unfortunately I have not found the coins :-(

The big one I think is on sale on ebay: 2 falus 1277, but there isn't ref C#
http://www.ebay.it/itm/272398544566?_trksid=p2055119.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT

About the small one, because I have not found nothing to similar also in www-zeno.ru, is it possible it isn't from Morocco or it isn't a "falus"?

Thanks for any help
Andrea
Andrea from Italy
2 falus ?:
https://www.ngccoin.com/price-guide/world/morocco-2-falus-first-standard-c-163-1-1277-1278-cuid-34884-duid-100551

little coin is indeed propably no falus but I can not find a match
please ask Sjuit Kumar: https://en.numista.com/echanges/profil.php?id=29018
Non est totum quod splendet ut aurum
Rijkdom bestaat niet uit het hebben van veel bezittingen, maar in het hebben van weinig behoeften
Hi PetrusAscanus,
I think you're right about the big one, just date is below the horizontal line. Also the ebay-seller confirm C163.
Unfortunately also Sjuit has no ideas about the small now
Thank you
Andrea
Andrea from Italy
Perhaps you can send a message to Haseeb,
He ahs helped me in the past
https://en.numista.com/echanges/profil.php?id=30525
Non est totum quod splendet ut aurum
Rijkdom bestaat niet uit het hebben van veel bezittingen, maar in het hebben van weinig behoeften
Unfortunately he has not idea about this coin
Andrea from Italy
I have posted your pictures on Zeno:
Perhaps they will know what it is.
http://www.zeno.ru/showphoto.php?photo=173954&cat=all

edit: Please see the reply of Alx:
http://www.zeno.ru/showphoto.php?photo=173954
Mamluk AE fals, Barquq, [Dimashq], 86 (786AH)
Non est totum quod splendet ut aurum
Rijkdom bestaat niet uit het hebben van veel bezittingen, maar in het hebben van weinig behoeften
Petrus, thank you for you help and many thanks to Alex
Andrea from Italy
sorry if I have been away..
..but in recent weeks I am committed to moving house, transferring, and I haven't a chance to check my books.
I promise I'll add more info on this coin
in the meantime I've got inserted in the catalog.

thanks to all, as always for help to identify.

https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces95318.html
Thank you Simone.
Numista community is fantastic!
Andrea from Italy
if you search Zeno, you can see some other similar coins:
http://www.zeno.ru/search.php?searchid=303400
Non est totum quod splendet ut aurum
Rijkdom bestaat niet uit het hebben van veel bezittingen, maar in het hebben van weinig behoeften
Thanks PetrusAscanus,
do you know the title of the book written by Mr Balog?
Andrea from Italy
no, i do not know that book....
Non est totum quod splendet ut aurum
Rijkdom bestaat niet uit het hebben van veel bezittingen, maar in het hebben van weinig behoeften
Charm did put the coin in the correct category:
https://www.zeno.ru/showphoto.php?photo=173954

About Balog:
THE COINAGE OF THE AYYUBIDS by P Balog. RNS Special Publication No 12 London 1980. 334 pgs. 50 plates. The standard reference.
Or this:
http://numismatics.org/digitallibrary/ark:/53695/nnan55713
You can save that page (File-Save As-Save As mht)

https://books.google.be/books?id=NBBMJJTEoKMC&pg=PA221&lpg=PA221&dq=paul+balogh+mamluk+coins&source=bl&ots=HNPh3G-o07&sig=4ruLXRkdMM5Ijox52T5UkogeVjU&hl=nl&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwi7uoPEpZvZAhVF16QKHSvQD3EQ6AEITTAL#v=onepage&q=paul%20balogh%20mamluk%20coins&f=false

https://www.google.be/search?source=hp&ei=bdx-WoDMHYqbkwW3ybaYCA&q=the+coinage+of+the+ayyubids+pdf&oq=%22THE+COINAGE+OF+THE+AYYUBIDS&gs_l=psy-ab.1.1.0i22i30k1l2.2895.3600.0.7892.3.2.0.0.0.0.86.126.2.2.0....0...1c.1.64.psy-ab..1.1.85.0...0.Ln9l4LwF8Ww

Perhaps those can help
Non est totum quod splendet ut aurum
Rijkdom bestaat niet uit het hebben van veel bezittingen, maar in het hebben van weinig behoeften
Thank you for your help PetrusAscanus
Andrea from Italy

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