1.000 Fineness - no bullion value [solved]

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Seems it's not an issue anymore, thanks!
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Hello Xavier,

This coin (and the other silver ones in the series)
https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces92348.html
have silver fineness of 1.000 according to Krause, and it's also written on the coin itself
however, when adding that as silver (.1000) or (1.000) the bullion value doesnt show
so I had to write it as .999 for now, until it gets fixed

Thanks a lot!
Catalog Master Referee & Referee for UAE
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Amer Salmeh
Xavier is in holidays for now. Be sure he'll be informed of this. Please also notice I'm the only admin for a few days (and getting a little ill, bad timing) as Jarcek is also enjoying a small trip abroad till Thursday.
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How could that be scientifically possible?
Numista referee for Finland
Yes, I thought pure silver was always written as .9999 as it's impossible to get it 100% pure
Quote: "neilithic"​Yes, I thought pure silver was always written as .9999 as it's impossible to get it 100% pure
​Yes, likewise, although I'm not sure it's actually impossible, just not economically viable to remove that last fraction of impurity.
Just because you can't see it ... doesn't mean it isn't there - Anon.

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You could have "100% pure" silver atoms in a vacuum but a whole coin would be contaminated immediately when exposed to earth's air and become 99% pure which would make it completely pointless.

I'm pretty sure that it's an error made by Krause.
Numista referee for Finland
There are some countries that use the 1000/1000 designation not just for plating but for the normal silver purity for example Japan.
Yes it is not really 100% silver but that is what they write on their lables. Personally I would use .999 or .9999 on these coins we don't have to wait for Xavier and it is nearer to the truth.
Also you can always write something in the comment section.
Thanks everyone for the help!

I just found the official decree to issue the coins (dated 1/1/1970)
It says:
- composition and description of silver coins: 1000/1000
then later on it says:
- fineness of the silver pieces 999 to 1000 pure silver

So I guess issue is solved now! thanks again
Catalog Master Referee & Referee for UAE
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Amer Salmeh
Just a final thought. If you can get pure gold, why can you not get pure silver?
Is pure gold written as .9999.
Just a thought I would like to add
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Extreme pure metals are very expensive to produce. You can get gold in 999.999 (in the lab with a few more 9s) but it is also worth way more then silver right now and also its properties make the process a bit easier than in the case of silver.
Quote: "COINMAN1"​Just a final thought. If you can get pure gold, why can you not get pure silver?
​Is pure gold written as .9999.
​Just a thought I would like to add
​24 carat Gold is considered to be 'pure' or 'fine' gold and is rated at 0.999. However, there is a fineness of Gold which is said to be purer than 24 carat and is known as "Four Nines Fine" and is rated at 0.9999.
Just because you can't see it ... doesn't mean it isn't there - Anon.

Former coin and banknote catalogue referee.

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