kommodore
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Posted: 3 Sep 2016, 13:33
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Posted: 3 Sep 2016, 13:33
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Hello
I have this coin and I would like to know why there's no value in Krause listed for this year?
Could you please tell me the value?
https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces30834.html
Also one more question: I cannot find a 1659 ampersand with this bust on the internet, this 1660 seems to be the first year.
Thank you
kommodore
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Posted: 3 Sep 2016, 22:02
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Posted: 3 Sep 2016, 22:02
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French people help me
Camerinvs
Joined: 19 May 2016
Posts: 6416
Posted: 3 Sep 2016, 22:14
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Posted: 3 Sep 2016, 22:14
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Hello,
I just posted a link on the French forum:
https://fr.numista.com/forum/topic52867.html#p439098 .
Hopefully, someone will come to your rescue.
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Joe-breuille
Joined: 11 Aug 2013
Posts: 9742
Posted: 3 Sep 2016, 22:27
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Posted: 3 Sep 2016, 22:27
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It's strange 1660 is not listed in Krause as you say because this type starts in 1658 and is supposed to end in 1673 (Gadoury informations)
Here is the same as yours, for sale :
http://www.cgb.fr/louis-xiv-le-grand-ou-le-roi-soleil-douzieme-decu-au-buste-juvenile-1660-aix-en-provence,bry_391299,a.html
Regards
Je cherche des féodales : n'hésitez pas à me contacter !
Ma liste de double est très incomplète : dites moi ce que vous cherchez.
kommodore
Joined: 5 Nov 2009
Posts: 3010
Posted: 3 Sep 2016, 22:44
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Posted: 3 Sep 2016, 22:44
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Actually I don't find any pictures of a pre 1660 ampersand adolescent bust. Only kid bust.
This 1660 ampersand looks to be the first year for adolescent bust.
Camerinvs
Joined: 19 May 2016
Posts: 6416
Posted: 4 Sep 2016, 00:16
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Posted: 4 Sep 2016, 00:16
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One thing is sure, the value is greatly diminished by the clumsy hole at the top, but the problem of identifying this variety is nonetheless interesting.
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Joe-breuille
Joined: 11 Aug 2013
Posts: 9742
Posted: 4 Sep 2016, 10:10
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Posted: 4 Sep 2016, 10:10
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This type seems known by Gadoury for 1659 & with the same quotation. Have they already seen on? No idea.
Je cherche des féodales : n'hésitez pas à me contacter !
Ma liste de double est très incomplète : dites moi ce que vous cherchez.
kommodore
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Posted: 14 Sep 2016, 14:27
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Posted: 14 Sep 2016, 14:27
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Guys I think we should remove the 1659 & field from this adolescent bust coin.
I have not found any single reference or picture on the internet.
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