World Coins Chat: Russian Empire/ USSR/ Russian Federation

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Time for my first WCC topic!

Russia is the largest country in the world, which straddles the continents of Europe and Asia. Being very large, it is also very diverse. There are over twenty ethnic groups and over 100 languages, although Russian Slavs still have an 80% majority and 99% of the population has at least a decent understanding of Russian.

The history of Russia is a very, very long topic and it would take me forever to write even a "short" summery. If you want, here is an extremely short summery of Russian history which still has far more details than this topic.

The history of Russia, for our purposes, begins with Keivan Rus (founded 880), a Slavic state located in present-day European Russian and northern Ukraine. Keivan Rus adopted Orthodox Christianity (a major religion in modern Russia) from the Byzantine Empire, which is reflected on their Byzantine-style coins:


(Note the presence of the tryzub, a symbol of Ukraine)

In the 13th century, the Mongol Golden Horde took over Russia, beginning a period which has a tremendous influence on modern Russia and its culture. The sporadic invasion came as surprise to the powerful Rus' state. One historian living at the time considered the invasion to be God's punishment: "For our sins unknown nations arrived. No one knew their origin or whence they came, or what religion they practiced. That is known only to God, and perhaps to wise men learned in books". During the time of the Mongol occupation, regular Mongol coins and imitations thereof were used in most of Russia.



Also at this time, the Grand Duchy of Moscow, Velikoye Knyazhestvo Moskovskoy'e, emerged as a powerful vassal state to the Mongols. They rebelled against their occupiers and eventually, Ivan the Great, the Grand Duke of Moscow, emerged victorious and removed the last traces of Mongol domination. He named himself, "Grand Duke of All Russians", and attempted to create what he called a "Third Rome". He married a Byzantine princess, and adopted the Byzantine coat of arms:


(Ivan III's personal arms)

Finally, Ivan's son, Ivan Grozny (Ivan IV "The Terrible") completed the process by creating the Tsarstvo, or Tsardom (more accurately, "Caesardom", reflecting ideal of a Third Rome) of Russia. During this time, wire money was used. Wire money was made of a silver wire that was pressed flat and struck with a massive die. The wire was then cut into equal-weighted pieces which became coins.


Russia pursued an expansionist policy during the era of the Tsardom. Russia conquered many of the Khanates of the disintegrating Mongol Empire. Ivan the Terrible more than doubled Russia's territory and transformed it into a multi-ethnic, multi-lingual, and intercontinental state. He also "happened" to have committed brutal atrocities against his own citizens and even his own son, but we'll leave this for another time. ;)

When all of Ivan's sons died, Russia was left without a leader. Chaos ensued, and finally Michael Romanov, a relative of Ivan's wife, was appointed the new Tsar. Michael I became the first Romanov, a dynasty which lasted over 300 years. During this time, there was very little change in coinage and wire money continued to be used.

Peter I, usually known as Peter the Great, established the Russian Empire, although in reality he continued to be called Tsar. He also pursued a policy of aggressive expansionism. He fought wars with Persians, the Ottoman Empire, and with Sweden. In these wars, he took over the Baltic states and the swamps that became St. Petersburg, a city which he named after himself. He also modernized Russia's coinage. Peter the Great introduced the Rouble of 100 Kopeks (the first decimal currency), and his coins were some of the first milled coins in the world.



After Peter the Great, Russia's Golden Age was not over. One of his successors, Catherine II (again, "The Great") is famous in the numismatic world for creating large coins made out of copper. However, she is also famous for the military victories (see the pattern yet ;)) she made over the Ottoman Empire, Persia, and the Khanate of Crimea. In these wars, she gained Azeribaijan, Armenia, and Georgia, among other territories. She was also a major figure in the Russian Enlightenment. Now, back to her large copper coins. During Catherine's reign, Siberia's and the Urals' copper mining industries were at their height. She decided to make coins out of copper rather than silver (because there was so much extra copper) which resulted in some pretty large coins, culminating in the massive Syestroryetsk'i Rubl', the Rouble of Sestroretsk (made out of 1 kg of copper!)



Years after Catherine the Great, a formidable threat rose for Russia: Napoleon. Napoleon's ambition took him across the European continent to Russia. However, he was defeated. This is probably due to the fact that Russia's cold winters were no match for the French troops, but also because Mikhail Kutuzov, a brilliant strategist fought Napoleon using very successful tactics. The French invasion left no impact on Russian coinage.

After the Napoleonic invasion, Russian coinage modernized slowly. This resulted in the reigning monarch not being featured on all coins Here are some examples:



At this time in Russian history, unrest sweeped the nation. In the process of modernization, the Tsars began creating more and more reforms, mainly giving more rights to the peasant class and abolishing serfdom. This in turn led to the rise of Socialist, Communist, and Labor movements (know the difference!) in the country. Tsar Alexander II was assassinated by terrorists from the left-wing terrorist group, Narodnaya Volya. His son, Alexander III attempted to appease the upper class nobility and apparently this worked, because his reign was also quite peaceful. During the reigns of Alexander II and Alexander III, Russia introduced some beautiful commemorative roubles:



After Alexander III's peaceful death, his son, Nicholas II, was crowned in a lavish coronation ceremony. As part of the ceremony, a handsome commemorative rouble was issued:


Nicholas II opposed all democratic reforms and wished for the Russian government to remain an absolute monarchy. He also pursued extremely anti-Semitic legislation (which led to the foundation of the Jewish Labor Bund), as well as anti-labor laws. His subjects, however, had different ideas. This led to the famous Revolution of 1905, which was really a wave of revolutions across Russia, each targeting a specific problem. Tsar Nicholas II responded with violence, but this didn't stop the revolts.

Finally, he was forced to enact massive reforms, one of which included creating the democratically-elected Imperatorski Duma, the Imperial Duma (a legislative body). He also granted the freedom of speech and assembly. He also fought two wars, the Russo-Japanese War (which he lost) and WWI (which he one but at a heavy cost to the nation). In addition, the Russian government began to print millions of roubles in banknotes without minting coins to back them up with, which caused inflation and a food shortage. All these events set the stage for the Russian Revolution.

The Russian Revolution was in fact a series of related primarily Socialist rebellions and wars. The first of these, the February Revolution, broke out in the streets of Petrograd (St. Petersburg). The February Revolution deposed the Tsar and created the Russian Provisional Government, which was partially democratic, as well as the Petrograd Soviet, an influential legislative body. The Russian Provisional Government eventually ordered the execution of the Tsar and his entire family. Unfortunately for the Soviet, the Bolsheviks, led by Vladimir Lenin, took down the Provisional Government in the October Revolution. Lenin and his followers established the Russian Soviet Federative Socialist Republic (RSFSR). The RSFSR was the world's first socialist state, which completely overhauled the government and the economy to comply with socialist models. The RSFSR also produced coins in 1921, the first since the fall of the Tsarist government.



Finally, the Soviet Union was established as a union of the formerly independent RSFSR, Ukrainian Socialist Soviet Republic, the Byelorussian Socialist Soviet Republic, and the Transcaucasian Socialist Federative Soviet Republic (a federation of Georgia, Azerbaijan and Armenia). RSFSR coinage continued for a few years and then the Soviet Union issued distinctive coins, including a pictorial 50 Kopeks and 1 Rouble.



Lenin died in 1924, and Joseph Stalin took power. Stalin murdered many of his own people (he killed more Russians than Hitler) and imposed harsh agricultural "reforms" which led to many famines. Among the people he didn't kill, he exiled many to Siberia for being "enemies of the state" (including many members of my family). Stalin also fought WWII which brought a wave on intense patriotism as well as tremendous suffering for ordinary people. He also abolished circulating silver coinage in 1931.



The Stalinist regime came to end when he died in 1953 and Nikita Khruschev and later Leonid Brezhnev became the new leader of the USSR. During this time, the USSR experienced tremendous economic and industrial growth, in an effort to keep up with the capitalist USA. However, this era of Soviet history is marked by the Cold War, the "frozen conflict" with America and the West. The USSR showed off their military power on a set of coins commemorating 50 years since the revolution.



After 1967, the Soviet Union began a long series of circulating commemorative roubles (the first coin was actually issued in 1965 to commemorate the end of WWII). See the rest here.



Despite the large number of commemoratives and monetary reforms, the coins under 1 rouble basically stayed the same.



During the Khrushchev and Brezhnev eras, the USSR and USA fought proxy wars, namely the Korean, Vietnam, and Soviet-Afghanistan wars. Although they left a big impact on history, they had no impact on Soviet coinage. The Soviet Union also maintained control over its Eastern European puppet states, which will each get its own WCC topic.

In 1985, Mikhail Gorbachev was selected as leader of the Soviet Union. He engaged in talks with America, established more political (Peristroika) and personal (Glasnost - the reduction of censorship) freedoms, and slowly began the process of dismantling the socialist economy. Between 1989 and 1991, the Soviet Union began the process of collapse. Each of the 15 republics declared Independence, and finally, the RSFSR did so as well under the leadership of Boris Yeltsin. The Soviet Union came to an end in 1991

Gosbank, the State Bank of the USSR issued a set of coins in 1991, and the independent Russian Federation issued its own coins starting in 1991. Eventually, all the former Soviet republics issued coins.



The Russian Federation was plagued with economic problems. Those people with connections to power during the Soviet Union became the "oligarchs" who controlled a large percentage of the economy while the ordinary people were left in poverty. In addition, rebellions in the North Caucasus (especially in Chechnya) further crippled the Russian state. In 1998, another financial crisis rocked the country. This crisis resulted in a revaluation of the Russian rouble.



Russia also began a series of commemorative 10 rouble coins (both bimetallic and monometallic).



In 1999, Yeltsin resigned, leaving Vladimir Putin to lead the country. Although Putin held various posts of power since then, he was almost always the driving force behind all of Russia's politics (he is still in power today). Although Putin reversed many of processes of democratization, he created relative stability which made him popular in Russia. In 2014, Putin authorized the Russian invasion of Ukraine and the annexation of Crimea. In addition, in 2014, a new symbol was created for the ruble: ₽, which was commemorated on a coin.


Now we come to the end of a one-thousand year saga of Russian history - finally!

Here are some added materials:

The territorial evolution of Russia from 1866:



Symbols of Russia:

Tsardom:



Empire:



RSFSR:



Soviet Union:



Russian Federation:



I hope you enjoyed this WCC topic! I'll be covering Ukraine next. If you want to learn more about Russian history (or debate it) feel free to contact me ;). Also, I have to recommend the show, Russia: Land of the Tsars, by History Channel. You can watch it for free online here.
>Also at this time, the Grand Duchy of Moscow, Velikoye Knyazhestvo Moskovskoy'e, emerged as a powerful vassal state to the Mongols. They rebelled against their occupiers

You're telling the official version. But the problem is that there was no occupation in a form of direct Mongol rule in Moscow and its dependencies. Moscow dukes just ruled in the name of Mongols and paid them tribute. And when the Mongol Empire split, one of its pieces was the Grand Duchy of Moscow. (And then it started to conquer other pieces - Kazan Khanate, Siberian Khanate, Crimea, etc.)

>Peter I, usually known as Peter the Great, established the Russian Empire, although in reality he continued to be called Tsar.

"Tsar" became a minor title. The main title became "emperor and sole ruler of all Great, and Small, and White Russia"; and additional titles - "tsar of Kazan", "tsar of Poland", "grand duke of Finland", etc.

>Finally, he was forced to enact massive reforms, one of which included creating the democratically-elected Imperatorski Duma

Actually, it was called Gosudarstvennaya Duma (State Duma) - exactly like the modern lower house of Russian parliament.

>Despite the large number of commemoratives and monetary reforms, the coins under 1 rouble basically stayed the same.

There were no reforms between 1961 and 1993.
1: Yes this may be true, its not occupation in the modern sense, but the Mongols did exert a tremendous amount of control over Moscow.

2: Officially, this is correct, but really everyone calls the Tsars Tsars!

3: Did not know that, thanks.

4: I am talking about the pre-1961 reforms!

Thanks for fact checking, as you can imagine I didn't write this post from memory, I relied on external websites.
Quote: "dptashny"​​4: I am talking about the pre-1961 reforms!

​Thanks for fact checking, as you can imagine I didn't write this post from memory, I relied on external websites.

What reforms were there between 1917 and 1961?

The removal of silver coinage, if you can call that a reform? Was there an exchange rate between the old silver series and the new CN?

The rest of the series, I believe, was just updated designs/alloys. As the number of SSRs within USSR increased, so did the number of ribbons on the coat of arms, from 7 in 1924, to 11 in 1937, to 15 in 1948.
HoH
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soviet_ruble
​​>​What reforms were there between 1917 and 1961?

There were several reforms because of hyperinflation after the civil war, and also 1 reform after the 2nd World War.

1917-1922 - period of civil war, lots of banknotes issued by bolsheviks, White forces (their enemies), and local authorities at both sides (including Armavir coins, that are incorrectly called in Krause "Russian Caucasia")

1922 - first attempt of a reform, 10000 old roubles were changed for 1 new rouble; but no coins were introduced

1923 - second reform, 100 roubles of the 1922 issue were changed for 1 new rouble; and also no coins were introduced

1924 - third reform, 50000 roubles of the 1923 issue were changed for 1 new rouble; and only this time appeared new coins with dates 1921-1924. They had the same specifications as the old coins of Russian Empire (but the exchange rate was 50 billion tsarist roubles for 1 new rouble).

1947 - paper money was exchanged 1:10, but all the coins remained in circulation and became 10 times more expensive

1961 - paper money and 5, 10, 15, 20 kopeks were exchanged 1:10, but 1, 2 and 3 kopeks remained in circulation and became 10 times more expensive (that's why my father in 1970s and 1980s collected 1 and 2 kopeks coins in a big bag - he thought that the next reform may follow the same scenario)
See, this is the kind of information I would want to be able to find in the catalog.
HoH
Quote: "ciscoins"​​1917-1922 - period of civil war, lots of banknotes issued by bolsheviks, White forces (their enemies), and local authorities at both sides (including Armavir coins, that are incorrectly called in Krause "Russian Caucasia")


In this period there were used stamps glued to a cardboard as coins. Do you think they can be in Numista catalog?

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That's a good question! I always collected them as stamps, though.
Quote: "dptashny"​That's a good question! I always collected them as stamps, though.
Likewise. If anything, they're more like banknotes than coins, but even that is stretching it a bit too far, imho.
HoH
Thank you Daniel for these informative pieces! But is that signature below all your posts really necessary? ;-)

On-topic: the Ruble was introduced as a 28 gram silver coin in 1704. This was reduced to 18 grams in the 19th century, pegging it to 4 French Francs of the LMU. In 1897 a further 1/3rd was cut from the value to 2 2/3 Francs, roughly equivalent to 0.50 USD in those days.

The First World War and subsequent revolutions and civil war caused hyperinflation with the Ruble being redenominated frequently.
I have always liked soviet commemoratives, many of them are really impressive big sized coins. Late 1980's cu-ni proof coins which depicts churches etc. are real pieces of art. I have met even some circulated proofs, but maybe kids were just taking them to candy shop:)

What is the recent price development in Empire coins? Still upwards?
again: NUMISDOC?

why not? you are too informational, thanks for that!
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Quote: "ciscoins"​​1917-1922 - period of civil war, lots of banknotes issued by bolsheviks, White forces (their enemies), and local authorities at both sides (including Armavir coins, that are incorrectly called in Krause "Russian Caucasia")


​In this period there were used stamps glued to a cardboard as coins. Do you think they can be in Numista catalog?

​there are other kind of notgelds that were made of cardboard, leather and wool used as currency. I don't see this as being different. They might go to the token section, though.
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I have been absent from this forum for a while, but recently returned from a fantastic first-ever holiday to Moscow and Saint Petersburg (loved it over there!), complete with a new interest in and appreciation of Russian history, coinage and banknotes, of course. :D As a result, after finally adding my Russian coins to Numista, I searched the forum and found this thread. Excellent summary, dptashny. Thank you! :)

Regarding Soviet commemoratives, I picked up a few in Moscow (street corner at Taganskaya) and was wondering if they are ever faked. The old guys selling coins, notes and medals there had a lot of fake items. I don't think any of the medals and pins I saw in Russia generally (not just there) were real! A good number of older imperial coins looked rather suspect, too. Anyway, just curious about the Soviet commemoratives, in particular, and whether they sometimes produced the edge lettering the "wrong" way up...

Also, in case I return to Moscow or Saint Petersburg for another holiday (and I am certainly tempted!), does anyone here have any good shop recommendations for coins/notes? War medals? Thanks!

About Russian coins, I especially love the old copper kopecks and Nikolai II silver rouble, but alas I couldn't find a good/real one of the latter (either polished or fake). Picked up a few good sets of copper kopecks, however, from the actual store at Taganskaya (Elizabeth Petrovna, Catherine the Great, first Soviet series).
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Quote: "Miss Moneypenny"​Also, in case I return to Moscow or Saint Petersburg for another holiday (and I am certainly tempted!), does anyone here have any good shop recommendations for coins/notes? War medals? Thanks!

​See this topic: https://en.numista.com/forum/topic50410.html
Thanks! Actually, I think I already saw this thread, which is how I found out about the street corner at Taganskaya. The other places mentioned in Moscow are too far out, or at least they looked that way on the map (beyond Ismailovo Market). I was hoping for something a little more central like Numizmat.

I forgot to mention that I did go to the SPB mint store, but they only had new stuff and the shop lady was very unhelpful. Tried to ask her something, but because I can only speak English, she abruptly dismissed me, so I left. :/
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There's a good coin shop in Peter and Paul fortress, you can buy a "souvenir" from there after visiting the fort.
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Quote: "Miss Moneypenny"​The other places mentioned in Moscow are too far out, or at least they looked that way on the map (beyond Ismailovo Market). I was hoping for something a little more central like Numizmat.

​Yes, they are not in the center, but MUCH better. All parts of the city are equally safe to visit, and you can get everywhere by metro very fast.

In the center, close to "Kurskaya" metro station, there is a very good shop "Russiancoin". Thousands of coins from all countries and periods - too many to find something when you are already inside, so it's better to find what you need at their site http://russiancoin.ru/, make an order, and then pick it up in the shop. It is not cheap, but cheaper and more reliable than Taganka.
A few small corrections/clarifications to dptashy's original post:
  • Wire money - the wire was first cut into equal length pieces, then flattened and stamped. These pieces are often referred to as (fish) scales (Russian: чешуйки/чешуя).
  • Narodnaya Volya, meaning "The People's Will"
  • Imperatorski Duma - actually, that should be Imperatorskaya Duma (Russian: Императорская Дума)
  • The trizub/trezubets (trident) shown is the personal crest of the Grand Duke of Novgorog, Yaroslav "The Wise" (1010 — 1034) and did not belong to a family/tribe/state. Each Grand Duke had their own.

It is also worth mentioning that, over the centuries, silver content in lower denominations of imperial coins dropped from .868 in the early 1800s, to .720 in 1860s, to .500 by 1915, and was often lower than advertised.
HoH
Quote: "Houseofham"
  • Imperatorski Duma - actually, that should be Imperatorskaya Duma (Russian: Императорская Дума)





​​It never had this name. The name always was Государственная Дума (State Duma). Here's the text of the emperor's manifest by which this organ was created.
http://web.archive.org/web/20080610000131/http://www.kodeks.ru/noframe/free-duma?d&nd=723101035&nh=2
Quote: "zegeri"​In this period there were used stamps glued to a cardboard as coins. Do you think they can be in Numista catalog?



​Actually, they were not the stamps glued to a cardboard but were directly printed on a thin cardboard, a stamp with the face value on the obverse and the text "Circulates on a par with the coins" on the reverse. The first issue in 1915 had 3 face values - 10, 15 and 20 kopeks and the text was "Circulates on a par with the silver coins":

The second issue in 1916 had face values of 1, 2 and 3 kopeks with the text "Circulates on a par with the copper coins"

and two more issues in 1917 had overprint with a face value and different text design:


All this issues were the legal tenders issued by the government and were actually used instead of small coins - so, they fall directly in to the category of notgeld.
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glykan, do you know if there is any catalog of this issues?
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Quote: "zegeri"​glykan, do you know if there is any catalog of this issues?
​Yes of course - Scott has them under #105-107, 112-116 and 139-141 and Michel actually lists them as "Notgeld" - #107A-109B, 110-112 and 117-121.
More complete information can be found in Russian stamp catalogs like Zagorski Specialized 1845-1917.
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