Thanks for the information, most helpful. I currently have just the one album, which is full and has all different years/countries etc, each one has a slip of card behind it on which is written the coin details (Country, #KM, denomination, year), with exception of my UK £2, £1 and 50p's which are stored in display trays (with a few other £1 & 50p coins):
I have approx. another 250 coins to record/store so was looking for some different options with regards to albums.
I am ridiculous, I have more money in my German 1 though 10 pf to hold them. Then what they are worth. Yes I am trying to get one of every year and put in a albums. I put bank notes in first then tokens then their coins. I am just nuts. I have a room just for coins. I put in a big album when it get full I take out the bigger countrys and put in their own album. Right now I been working on updating my coin collection. The last two months and still working on A (countrys that start with A).
I have some 110 ring binders taking around 10 running meters of shelf space, where I keep my more than 34.700 differents coins by country, type, year, mint and variants. I buy my ring binders and my pages from "Numis" and I go for the smaller size, otherwise those binders get too heavy....
Here is a photo of my coin cupboard, when it's closed
and one where it's in "working" conditions
OK, I have 2 meters of shelf space somewhere else. My binders are just numbered and I keep track of the countries in them via a reference file in Excel, that way I can easily split countries into more binders if necessary.
The photos are 2 years old, but basically everything is still the same, except for more binders...
Thanks for the information, most helpful. I currently have just the one album, which is full and has all different years/countries etc, each one has a slip of card behind it on which is written the coin details (Country, #KM, denomination, year), with exception of my UK £2, £1 and 50p's which are stored in display trays (with a few other £1 & 50p coins):
I have approx. another 250 coins to record/store so was looking for some different options with regards to albums.
Thanks again for the info.
Phil
Looks very professional! Have just really started collecting the 50ps. My sister works in a supermarket, and occasionally looks in the safe for me and pulls out the ones I don't have. So hopefully I will have a full set of 50ps soon. Still missing a few Olympic ones, and this one:
I've got quite a lot of Channel Islands 50ps from her, including some of the Isle of Man Christmas editions which I like. Which ones are you missing? or do you have them all?
I just bought the Benjamin Britten 50 p from the mint,
Haven't started collecting all the £1s yet, most of the variations are quite common. The bridge £1s and capital cities are the ones I have put aside so far.
Yes, I have a few "large" 50p's but I'm after one of those too!! Keep getting outbid for them on ebay!!
Quote: gsl91I've got quite a lot of Channel Islands 50ps from her, including some of the Isle of Man Christmas editions which I like. Which ones are you missing? or do you have them all?
Not got any Channel Islands 50ps and only have 1 Isle of Man 50p (one of the TT races one's), do you have any swaps?
EDIT: Think someone edited my post and added their reply on it, I've removed it so they will need to re-post as a reply, thanks.
Quote: didi83 Christmas gift from my wife - new wood shelfs for my coin albums. Simply perfect gift, i am very happy /
Awesome shelfs, they appear really solid to me.
My shelfs are made of chipboard. They used to be straight, but because my collection has grown the last couple of years, the shelfs now have the shape of a parabola! I really should buy a new closet...
"For by telling them of many things without teaching them you will make them seem to know much, while for the most part they know nothing"
-Plato
Quote: PajaSkotI just recently got this idea and started organizing my coins this way... I am not done yet, because it takes time to make all the cards but I think it will look great once I finish it all.
This is just a few pictures
I'm using nearly the same System, but i just started with it. Everything in Grande Album like in the Picture and in alphabetical order at the moment.
Hello all. My collection of euro coins is mainly in official BU presentation packs, which come in various shapes and sizes, so it's difficult to know how to store them nicely. At the moment they are in lever arch files each in a clear pocket, but they get a bit squashed that way.
In terms of managing them, I have taken a photograph of each coin and have put it on a website - www.eurocollection.co.uk - definitely good for OCD!
Quote: SpookieI use Hartberger coin holders (Self adhesive) and Hartberger coin pages.
As I have terrible penmanship, I decided to print the coin info instead of writing it. I print 3 stickers per coin; Country, Description and Coin Reference.
For the stickers I use Avery No 3322 (37mm x 5mm).
It takes a lot of time to do this, but I am very happy with the end result. It took me 3 months to organise, card and sticker all my coins, but now that I am up to date it is easy to just add the new coins as they arrive.
That looks brilliant. I use the Hartberger too. but write on them. Your idea looks very neat
You guys really have too much time on your hands....
Imagine doing that with a collection of 34.000 coins? Even the idea of using 2x2 for that many coins is making me have hot, hot, burning night nightmares. 20 coins per page, 10 pages per binder just means 170 binders?
I manage my 34.900 coins collection in just 102 binders (Numis Classic) and I don't need to print any individual stickers at all! I do organise the coins by country in the binders.
How much time do you spend updating your files, binders, folders and so on, if you get a 140 coins deal delivery? It must be weeks?
Anyway, everybody is free to collect and organise as he sees fit, you do it your way and I do it my way and we're both happy, which is the most important thing about having a hobby, right?
When I got most of my coins they were inside tin cans and they are well preserved, except for the copper or brass ones since all or almost all became dark and lost their shine. But the silver ones were in excellent condition, so just to protect them for another 50 years I placed them in 1.5x1.5 and 2x2 mini-Ziploc baggies, each with a stick label with their info and placed them back onto the tin cans.
But I cannot but wish to place at least the smaller and most fragile ones on cardboard holders. How can I do these on my own? Which type of cardboard should I use, and MOST IMPORTANTLY which type of plastic? And preferably materials I could get on small town school materials shop.
Numista referee for the "Viceroyalty of the New Spain" (most of it).
History through coins.
Eli V
Hai, I have ciollection of around 1000 Coins and bank notes. I have kept some of my coins in 3 coin albums, but it is having small coin holding pouch just to hold the coin, no space to write or keep description and all. Rest of the coins are cleaned, segregated and neatly kept in PVC containers.
I am also pondering over the same idea since long. Still no solution yet. It should be proper, it has the space to write descriptions, and it should be cost effective.
If any valuable suggestions from some body, who have successfully solved this problem, it would be of immense help to collectors like me.
Quote: JYOTHIPRAKASHHai, I have ciollection of around 1000 Coins and bank notes. I have kept some of my coins in 3 coin albums, but it is having small coin holding pouch just to hold the coin, no space to write or keep description and all. Rest of the coins are cleaned, segregated and neatly kept in PVC containers.
I am also pondering over the same idea since long. Still no solution yet. It should be proper, it has the space to write descriptions, and it should be cost effective.
If any valuable suggestions from some body, who have successfully solved this problem, it would be of immense help to collectors like me.
Jyothi Prakash
Hi,
For you, it's easy to organize your collection with coin flips, because you haven't such a huge collection with like, 30,000 different coins. I've already past the 5000+ coins border, so for me It would take a lot of time and effort to put all my coins in cardboard coinflips.
Coinflips are really easy to get and very practical, you can write all sorts of important information on them. Such as the country's name, the denomination, composition of the coin, mintage, year of the coin, ruler, etc.
Also, they are easy to store and pretty cheap. I always use self-adhesive coin flips from Hartberger (sometimes Importa's self-adhensive flips, but they always break open at a matter of time ).
By the way, if you are interested, I saw this advertisment on a Dutch coindealer's site a while back:
You can have 5 albums and 50 sheets to store your coins (in flips) in and 1000 self-adhesive flips (you can choose your own diameter for these flips!). These are all produced by the Hartberger company.
A couple of months back, I bought this product twice (for my UK, Dutch, scandinavian and world coins). I can tell you that you seller is really reliable and honest.
Regards, Lotus07
"For by telling them of many things without teaching them you will make them seem to know much, while for the most part they know nothing"
-Plato
I give ALL the information about the coin in my collection excel file, except for coins, which are difficult to identify fast, where I just give the denomination, year (mint) and the km# on a small piece of paper behind the coin in the coin page, and the full description in my excel file. Why would you have want to have the same information twice, once in your collection file and once together with the coin? Seems like double work to me. Some people even join an image of their coin to their file, but I have never understood why. There are so many sites on the internet with images of all coins, so why bother?
Just my opinion, but then my collection is really huge.... and I never have time for redundant "jobs"
Quote: PajaSkotI just recently got this idea and started organizing my coins this way... I am not done yet, because it takes time to make all the cards but I think it will look great once I finish it all.
This is just a few pictures
Quote: PajaSkotI just recently got this idea and started organizing my coins this way... I am not done yet, because it takes time to make all the cards but I think it will look great once I finish it all.
This is just a few pictures
Okay, so this is my question... where in the world does one FIND the small plastic coin-holders? I can find plenty for cards, but none that seal at the top or are coin-sized. At what common Canadian / North American (for my purposes) stores can you buy anything like this?
A six year Numista absence makes the heart grow fonder... ?
In St. John's, do you only have one coin store? I feel for you if you have a jerk who overprices things. In Edmonton we have four (mostly) reputable dealers and this keeps prices fairly competitive (although it seems like their biggest customers are bullion-buyers, not collectors who are much better-informed).
I have seen a thread about some member who makes his own cards out of plastic wrap and cardboard. Ziploc bag plastic should be safe for coins, so it should not be too difficult with a good circle-cutter to assemble your own.
Quote: nalaberongIn St. John's, do you only have one coin store? I feel for you if you have a jerk who overprices things. In Edmonton we have four (mostly) reputable dealers and this keeps prices fairly competitive (although it seems like their biggest customers are bullion-buyers, not collectors who are much better-informed).
I have seen a thread about some member who makes his own cards out of plastic wrap and cardboard. Ziploc bag plastic should be safe for coins, so it should not be too difficult with a good circle-cutter to assemble your own.
Oh, yes, I'm the one with only one coin shop in her city. The prices are seriously extortionate. As an example, this was the CHEAPEST five-cent piece I could find on their eBay sales site (the rest are a MINIMUM store price of $13 or $15):
I mean, yes, you can tell this guy does things by the book -- gets all the coins certified, whatever whatever. But still. FIVE DOLLARS is the cheapest price for a non-silver five cent coin? Give me a bloody break. I'm not paying five dollars for something I could potentially find in circulation, even if mine isn't certified mint state.
A six year Numista absence makes the heart grow fonder... ?
Today I bought a rack for my collection.
This is photo from shop
After I assembled this construction I placed my coins inside.
As you can see on picture above it has 5 shelves. I used one of them for two drawers.
This is top part.
At the top I put cardboard box and plastic boxes with duplicates and my "сhange reserve".
At the top shelf I put my albums with euro-coins, album with Poland zlots, album with USA quarters and 3 albums with commemorative Russian roubles.
Orange box is my unsorted coins from last 5-10 swaps.
In dark blue case my Russian present coins (sorted by types, years and mints)
Second shelf I use for 2 drawers.
In one I put my cardcoins and coins in individual packs.
In the other I put my holders and coinsheets
This is the bottom part
Middle shelf I use for my commemorative coins in holders in display cases.
And last two I use for my folders with coins.
And this is photo of my commemorative coins in holders in display cases.
Quote: Moi_dela_horowoToday I bought a rack for my collection.
This is photo from shop
After I assembled this construction I placed my coins inside.
As you can see on picture above it has 5 shelves. I used one of them for two drawers.
This is top part.
At the top I put cardboard box and plastic boxes with duplicates and my "сhange reserve".
At the top shelf I put my albums with euro-coins, album with Poland zlots, album with USA quarters and 3 albums with commemorative Russian roubles.
Orange box is my unsorted coins from last 5-10 swaps.
In dark blue case my Russian present coins (sorted by types, years and mints)
Second shelf I use for 2 drawers.
In one I put my cardcoins and coins in individual packs.
In the other I put my holders and coinsheets
This is the bottom part
Middle shelf I use for my commemorative coins in holders in display cases.
And last two I use for my folders with coins.
And this is photo of my commemorative coins in holders in display cases.
Thank you for your attention =)
Beautiful collection in holders Ilya. And nice to see that you got a stand for it. I place mine on a discrete place, for matters of safety, so my "collector" doesn't look any fancy.
If you like collections in holders, I can get you a complete collection in official holder for the 5 Peso ones. It is at sale for 50 dollars in a store near the house. Or I could get you an empty folder, haven't asked how much they sell those for, there are with or without the Bank Note holders. The coins in the filled one are in mixed grades, so the price comes from the fact that it is a complete collection and with the holder (which looks like a book and has some history pages about the heroes in the coins).
Numista referee for the "Viceroyalty of the New Spain" (most of it).
History through coins.
Eli V
Quote: Milenahumm
I am a bit worried about coins put directly in plastic. I usually put them in 1X1 or 2X2 in neutral (acidless cardboards)
I had bad experiences - especially with copper pennies in albums - oxydation was awful. Coins were dry, matte and with green on edges - I had to send them to circulation
Please share your experience.
No. Those are professional albums just for coins and coins would not oxidised in these albums. Maybe they are a little bit expensive but they will preserve Your coins safely.
Regards
Kuna
With Numis pages, those problems are long time in the past.... I still have some coins in the old, pvc plastic pages, and they seem to sweat and oxidize in there.... With an ultrasound cleaning machine you solve the problems, but you have to use the new generation of pages, when you reinsert the coins in the binders.
If you are using PVC album, it is better to put the coin inside a coin holder or inside a cellophane small pouch before inserting into the coin album. PVC can leach over long run and can cause damage to coin which would be difficult to even clean. This is what I heard and read in some website. I have also seen PVC leaching but not in my coin albums.
Quote: madhunagaIf you are using PVC album, it is better to put the coin inside a coin holder or inside a cellophane small pouch before inserting into the coin album. PVC can leach over long run and can cause damge to coin which would be difficult to even clean. This is what i heard and read in some website. I have also seen PVC leaching but not in my coin albums.
Should I assume that really cheap Ziplock bags probably have PVC and/or something else that can harm coins in the long term? What about "real" Ziplock bags, as in brand name -- do they have the same harmful properties?
Also, I didn't realize cellophane = Glad wrap... I'm happy to know I actually have cellophane!
A six year Numista absence makes the heart grow fonder... ?
Quote: madhunagaIf you are using PVC album, it is better to put the coin inside a coin holder or inside a cellophane small pouch before inserting into the coin album. PVC can leach over long run and can cause damge to coin which would be difficult to even clean. This is what i heard and read in some website. I have also seen PVC leaching but not in my coin albums.
Should I assume that really cheap Ziplock bags probably have PVC and/or something else that can harm coins in the long term? What about "real" Ziplock bags, as in brand name -- do they have the same harmful properties?
Also, I didn't realize cellophane = Glad wrap... I'm glad to know I actually have cellophane!
If the bags are made for use with food, medicine or spices (like the tiny ziploc baggies) they must comply with standards and NOT include PVC. The problem comes when illegally imported Made in China counterfeits are introduced in the market.
If in doubt, you can test one of the bags by placing some cheap coins in them, then place them in a warm place (not directly on sunlight), and wait 6 months. This is the time it takes for PVC to start sweating the HipoChlorhydric acid and make the coins sticky and tarnish them. So if under warm conditions and six months there is no reaction then under fresh conditions and perpetual shadow there shouldn't be any trouble with that particular plastic brand.
If you really don't want to risk the coins at all, but don't have the resources to buy special materials, what you can do is use tiny paper envelopes. You won't be able to see the coin unless you take it out, but at least it would be protected and you can write whatever you want over the paper.
Numista referee for the "Viceroyalty of the New Spain" (most of it).
History through coins.
Eli V
Quote: madhunagaIf you are using PVC album, it is better to put the coin inside a coin holder or inside a cellophane small pouch before inserting into the coin album. PVC can leach over long run and can cause damge to coin which would be difficult to even clean. This is what i heard and read in some website. I have also seen PVC leaching but not in my coin albums.
Should I assume that really cheap Ziplock bags probably have PVC and/or something else that can harm coins in the long term? What about "real" Ziplock bags, as in brand name -- do they have the same harmful properties?
Also, I didn't realize cellophane = Glad wrap... I'm happy to know I actually have cellophane!
If the bags are made for use with food, medicine or spices (like the tiny ziploc baggies) they must comply with standards and NOT include PVC. The problem comes when illegally imported Made in China counterfeits are introduced in the market.
If in doubt, you can test one of the bags by placing some cheap coins in them, then place them in a warm place (not directly on sunlight), and wait 6 months. This is the time it takes for PVC to start sweating the HipoChlorhydric acid and make the coins sticky and tarnish them. So if under warm conditions and six months there is no reaction then under fresh conditions and perpetual shadow there should be any trouble with that particular plastic brand.
Hmm... well, I got them from the dollar store (Dollarama), and they are marketed as craft bags, but I'm pretty sure they're not illegal, although I guess I couldn't say that with 100% certainty. I know the plastic bags you buy at grocery stores are made to hold food, but these ones technically aren't. However, one of these sets of Ziplock bags is extremely tiny (like I would only put one coin in a bag tiny), while my other set of bags can hold 2-3 coins depending on size. I have been storing them in these bags by folding and taping until I can get a more permanent method, like the good non-PVC coin holders you all talk about. I really want to be able to flip through all my coins, see both sides clearly, etc.
A six year Numista absence makes the heart grow fonder... ?
### If you really don't want to risk the coins at all, but don't have the resources to buy special materials, what you can do is use tiny paper envelopes. ###
Make sure you get acid free envelopes specially for coins. I used once some normal envelopes and all the aluminium coins went into powder ..... the powder attacked the bronze coins .... so be careful with paper!
I think I'm going to wrap all my coins in plastic wrap before I put them in the baggies... that way I have some assurances that the quality won't degrade extensively. Also I should clearly be storing my coins in my basement (I have some shelving down there) as the top half of my apartment is extremely warm most of the time...
A six year Numista absence makes the heart grow fonder... ?
Quote: Sjoelund### If you really don't want to risk the coins at all, but don't have the resources to buy special materials, what you can do is use tiny paper envelopes. ###
Make sure you get acid free envelopes specially for coins. I used once some normal envelopes and all the aluminium coins went into powder ..... the powder attacked the bronze coins .... so be careful with paper!
Ole
Whut? How is that even possible? How long did you let the coins in those envelopes?
"For by telling them of many things without teaching them you will make them seem to know much, while for the most part they know nothing"
-Plato
Quote: Sjoelund### If you really don't want to risk the coins at all, but don't have the resources to buy special materials, what you can do is use tiny paper envelopes. ###
Make sure you get acid free envelopes specially for coins. I used once some normal envelopes and all the aluminium coins went into powder ..... the powder attacked the bronze coins .... so be careful with paper!
Ole
Whut? How is that even possible? How long did you let the coins in those envelopes?
Pure white paper uses Industrial highly-concentrated chloride to get that 99.5% whiteness grade, so I guess it is possible for it to get residual Cl on it after being washed to remove it. So I think cardboard-color paper, which is made from recycling other papers and this removes any possible trace of Cl from the mix, should be perfectly safe, and the cheapest one as well.
Numista referee for the "Viceroyalty of the New Spain" (most of it).
History through coins.
Eli V
3 months.... Of course the Al coins were still coins, but they were attacked by the acid in the paper and the surface powdered off...
Now I use special 2x2 coin envelopes and it doesn't attack any kind of alloys, but I learned the hard way!
Here is one of those coins, which started out as a unc grade. French Indochina, 10 cts 1945B, km28.2.
See how the head has detoriated in the first image (against the paper in the envelope) and how the second shows much less damage, but the shining surface has gone!
I don't know, I never used coin flips, but I have seen some old ones, which certainly had pvc in them, since the cu coins inside were "sweating".... If I were you, I would check it with the seller. You also have to make sure that the self adhesive glue is neutral... If you use staples make sure they are stainless steel, I have seen "nice" rusty ones and I don't know how that could affect the coin in the flip!
This is my most recent purchase for storing my main collection of UK silver coins, still to be put into place. I will be hoping to get a larger one for the UK copper.
It is 2 coin cabinets made from Brazilian oak, they are about 20+ years old made by Peter Nichols who makes them for the museums and obviously coin collectors. They were expensive Ben but as you say well worth it, the best part being they came with quite a lot of coins.
Quote: tony_k_1965It is 2 coin cabinets made from Brazilian oak, they are about 20+ years old made by Peter Nichols who makes them for the museums and obviously coin collectors. They were expensive Ben but as you say well worth it, the best part being they came with quite a lot of coins.
Quote: tony_k_1965It is 2 coin cabinets made from Brazilian oak, they are about 20+ years old made by Peter Nichols who makes them for the museums and obviously coin collectors. They were expensive Ben but as you say well worth it, the best part being they came with quite a lot of coins.
I am super impressed by these cabinets. + coins. + MAHOGANY?? (Sorry... my inner Hunger Games nerd had a field day with that )
A six year Numista absence makes the heart grow fonder... ?
Quote: tony_k_1965This is my most recent purchase for storing my main collection of UK silver coins, still to be put into place. I will be hoping to get a larger one for the UK copper.
Allah, Allah, ... this I really envy you for!
I am dreaming of something like this for long for my 1000+ Roman coins, ... and as you said I have only seen these in museums... can you ... you know what I'll send a PM!
I'm looking for a permanent way to store my collection, because the Ziploc baggies give me creeps (I'm quite sure they are food/medicine friendly, so they musn't have PVC, but a food bag for some 100$+ coins doesn't make me feel safe).
Numista referee for the "Viceroyalty of the New Spain" (most of it).
History through coins.
Eli V
Quote: tony_k_1965This is my most recent purchase for storing my main collection of UK silver coins, still to be put into place. I will be hoping to get a larger one for the UK copper.
Hi Tony! Can we have a peek what's inside? I imagine the disc tray with felt paper or something like that.
Quote: tony_k_1965This is my most recent purchase for storing my main collection of UK silver coins, still to be put into place. I will be hoping to get a larger one for the UK copper.
Allah, Allah, ... this I really envy you for!
I am dreaming of something like this for long for my 1000+ Roman coins, ... and as you said I have only seen these in museums... can you ... you know what I'll send a PM!
what you need to realise is the potential, say 1000 coins @ only £1 each is way more than I paid for the lot. But before you think out a loud at least 10% are proof coins, and also that is not all of the coins (about 50%) Think of of this way it contains almost all of the post 1970 proof half pennies and many more proofs
Just wanted to show something on which I spent quite a lot of time: I programmed a website (for personal use only) to manage my collection.
The initial idea came when I realised that it was quite hard to find a given coin in my collection because I did not know where to look for it, although the coins where somehow sorted in small platic bags, themselves grouped in freezer bags. So the website does the job of finding the coin I am looking for by typing e.g. the country and the year, and basically telling me in which plastic bag I can find it.
The search form:
Clicking on a coin gives some details:
With all my collection saved in the database, I can generate some cool statistics or make data aggregation (some of which can already be done with the Numista database!). Here are a few examples:
Country sorting:
Euros "post-it" of the coins I have. I keep it in my wallet to know which coins I should look for when paying by cash at the supermarket:
And before I saw that Numista could draw a nice world map, I also had the same idea of a map updated in real time from my database. Here is a zoom on Europe:
It took me quite a lot of time to write the website and to save all my collection in there. But now this is done, it is superfast to find the coins I want to look at. Of course, there are some softwares that can do a similar job, but what I like is to make statistics of all sorts that these sofwares often can't do. This gives me a good overview of my collection.
Quote: vatletJust wanted to show something on which I spent quite a lot of time: I programmed a website (for personal use only) to manage my collection.
Looks good!
Don't you want to help Numista team in programming and help with some improvements
Quote: vatletJust wanted to show something on which I spent quite a lot of time: I programmed a website (for personal use only) to manage my collection. [...]
Is there any way to make this available to people if they want it, and promise not to reshare? I've wanted a really good way to be able to SORT my coins on a database for ages. I'd love to be able to see all the statistics that you can see with your website at a glance, for my own coins.
A six year Numista absence makes the heart grow fonder... ?
Quote: nosouvenirsIs there any way to make this available to people if they want it, and promise not to reshare? I've wanted a really good way to be able to SORT my coins on a database for ages. I'd love to be able to see all the statistics that you can see with your website at a glance, for my own coins.
Maybe even an exchange this program against certain number of coins could be considered as option?
Quote: nosouvenirsIs there any way to make this available to people if they want it, and promise not to reshare? I've wanted a really good way to be able to SORT my coins on a database for ages. I'd love to be able to see all the statistics that you can see with your website at a glance, for my own coins.
Yes, I would be glad to provide the source code for those interested (for personal use and no reshare). It can be run on a local computer. However, you would have to figure out yourself how to set it up on your own computer; this is easier with some knowledge in websites, Django and databases.
I keep my coins in 2" X 2' flips in albums. I have less than 300. I did make a set of (3) very large wood and glass counter-top display cases with key lock latches, but I don't think I'll ever get around to doing a coin show. They hold about a (100) 2" X 2" flips. If anyone is interested, let me know. I just put them up on Ebay. Dan
I upgraded from the mini Ziploc baggies to card flips, and since I don't show them to anyone I simply store them in cardboard boxes made for the flips, so they are quite neat and safe from the environment. I only separated the Mexican and US coins to place them in 3-ring holders because those are the most in my collection as I get them by year and mint.
I also separate precious metal coins from normal ones and store them at a safe deposit because I get paranoid.
Numista referee for the "Viceroyalty of the New Spain" (most of it).
History through coins.
Eli V
I have over 25,000 coins and store them in acid free paper wallets. The grade is on the right and can be easily changed if I find a coin of better condition without having to get a new envelope.
All my coins are on a Microsoft Access database and most of them are also on Numista.com. This enables me to derive whatever statistics that I need.
Roy
these are stored upright in trays by country, Krause Number and date. This enables me to locate any coin easily.
All the trays are in country order in metal cabinits
How often does anybody really want to look at your collection?????
For me it never really happens, it's more often (maybe every second year), that somebody wants to see a special coin
It's more important that you can find a coin in your collection FAST to be able to check it. I know what I'm talking about with > 35.500 different coins (including variants) in my collection. and Roy's system is certainly faster than mine with binders, where the coins are not always in the proper order, so it's not so easy to check a doubles coin against the one in the collection
OK, I agree it's hard to find volunteers to show your collection
But I often look myself to my collection or a specific country.
Because I collect by year you easy can see series, periodes etc, with a yearcollection you only see a page with all the same coins.... so that's why I don't like (to look at) yearcollections
Quote: numismaticroyI have over 25,000 coins and store them in acid free paper wallets. The grade is on the right and can be easily changed if I find a coin of better condition without having to get a new envelope.
All my coins are on a Microsoft Access database and most of them are also on Numista.com. This enables me to derive whatever statistics that I need.
Roy
these are stored upright in trays by country, Krause Number and date. This enables me to locate any coin easily.
All the trays are in country order in metal cabinits
Hello, Roy
How do you look at your coin? To look you must to touch it by fingers, or your coins are in holders , and then in paper envelops?
How do you look at your coin? To look you must to touch it by fingers, or your coins are in holders , and then in paper envelops?
Maybe he suffers from the collector's syndrome; "Search for it, find it, catalog it, store it and never look at it again". Happens a lot with huge collections, in which the search is more fun than having it. At least for the common bunch, there should still be special holders for his more rare or most beloved coins that he can view every time he wants without having to search in the envelopes.
Well explained in this Simpsons episode:
Happened to me with my Yugioh cards When I had fewer than 100 I looked at them every week, then once I went hardcore I usually never looked at them again unless I needed some other card for my decks.
Numista referee for the "Viceroyalty of the New Spain" (most of it).
History through coins.
Eli V
I also have several thousand token which tend to be a bit more challenging to store. My approach is to them in coin albums and to sort them by size (diameter). Each increment of 1mm is given a new page in the album. (i.e. 16.00 to 16.99mm etc.
Having sorted them by size I then sort then as follows:
1) If the token has a number on them then these are listed first in ascending order.
2) If no number is on the token but it contains wording then they are stored alphabetically.
3) Blank tokens or tokens with Busts on then are filed last in any diameter section.
This means the if I get a new token then by just 3 decisions I can locate where the token should be stored and if it is not there then I know I have not got it and need to enter it on my token database.
I have just about 2900 different coins ( not years ), but all of them are from Africa.
There are some common and popular ways of coin storage.
I store them in 2x2 holders ( not adhesive but stapled by stapler ) and 5x6 sheets, and 3-ring binders.
I think its a one of the most safety way of storage in case if you collect coins by type, or by area, or by era, and no need to discover America in this field ( just my opinion )
storage in boxes where coins are touch and beat each other is a wrong way, - its just a metal collecting. You, friends, have to decide to store them on other way. If you search for easy and cheap way better to use two polyethylene/vinyl sheets, put coins inside , and stitch then by sewing machine. Anyway , they will be store better than in box together.
Sorting kiloware
I really enjoy it when I get several kilos of mixed coins and spend time sorting them by countries using the following box of polystyrene cups that I have made.
Once I have sorted them alphabetically by country I then have great fun looking them up using a combination of Krause catalogues and the Numista website to identify them. (makes a change from watching Television or surfing the net)
that's a smart way to do it, specially if you have problems to remember the order of the letters in the alphabet! I always have to start abc... to get the letters (countries) in the good order
Of course you'll then after the first filling of your cups have to resort by country inside the letters (cups), but that can not be avoided. It still much easier than my method, where I make "towers" of all the coins from each country. Afterwards I then put the towers in alphabetical order, so it's kind of pushing, making room, inserting etc!!!!
How much do you pay for two pounds (one kilo) of bulk coins? In france I get a kilo for 10-15 euros (13-19 US$). A kilo takes me about 4 hours to sort out BEFORE I can start to really process them
How much do you pay for two pounds (one kilo) of bulk coins? In france I get a kilo for 10-15 euros (13-19 US$). A kilo takes me about 4 hours to sort out BEFORE I can start to really process them
Thanks for sharing
Ole
Kilo prices seem to be rising and are inflated if I have to pay shipping cost as well. Most kilos I buy come from local sources (Car boot sales) or open markets. I am hesitant to pay more than £5 a kilo although the family like to buy me kiloware for birthday or Christmas.
Roy
PS. I tend to put the Arabic coins in the "XYZ" cup
I also have several thousand token which tend to be a bit more challenging to store. My approach is to them in coin albums and to sort them by size (diameter). Each increment of 1mm is given a new page in the album. (i.e. 16.00 to 16.99mm etc.
Having sorted them by size I then sort then as follows:
1) If the token has a number on them then these are listed first in ascending order.
2) If no number is on the token but it contains wording then they are stored alphabetically.
3) Blank tokens or tokens with Busts on then are filed last in any diameter section.
This means the if I get a new token then by just 3 decisions I can locate where the token should be stored and if it is not there then I know I have not got it and need to enter it on my token database.
Thanks Roy, that's a great idea. I have about 700 tokens I'm planning to sort through in the New Year and was stuck as to how to catalogue and store them. I will definitely be stealing your idea.
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I'm not an expert in any kind of coins, but I reckon I'm good at research and will do my best to help. Feel free to tell me my identifications/valuations/gradings are wrong. It's the only way I'll learn.
this is how my coin table is looking, when I have bulk coins or in this case, when a serious shipment (exchange) arrives and before I start to process it. In this case I'm just going to start with Russia, since there are so many and they are all nicely packed, so no stacking!
Thanks Roy, that's a great idea. I have about 700 tokens I'm planning to sort through in the New Year and was stuck as to how to catalogue and store them. I will definitely be stealing your idea.
Hi BizzoDoes,
in my bulk bag I got hold of this:
I don't collect that kind of metal rounds, how can I get rid of them? Do you have an idea?
Quote: SjoelundThanks Roy, that's a great idea. I have about 700 tokens I'm planning to sort through in the New Year and was stuck as to how to catalogue and store them. I will definitely be stealing your idea.
Hi BizzoDoes,
in my bulk bag I got hold of this:
I don't collect that kind of metal rounds, how can I get rid of them? Do you have an idea?
Ole
I collect them, maybe we can do an exhange or some sort?
"For by telling them of many things without teaching them you will make them seem to know much, while for the most part they know nothing"
-Plato
How do you look at your coin? To look you must to touch it by fingers, or your coins are in holders , and then in paper envelops?
Hi Dato
I can easily flip the envelope open and slide the coin out with little or no contact with fingers. I do this when I think I have obtained another coin that may be better condition. Let's say that I have the coin in •F (almost Fine) condition and have now found one in VF. All I have to do is place a line under VF (VF). This enables me to indicate the grades a little more accurately ie •F, F, F• (Almost Fine, Fine, Fine+) and I can still use the existing envelope.
How do you look at your coin? To look you must to touch it by fingers, or your coins are in holders , and then in paper envelops?
Hi Dato
I can easily flip the envelope open and slide the coin out with little or no contact with fingers. I do this when I think I have obtained another coin that may be better condition. Let's say that I have the coin in •F (almost Fine) condition and have now found one in VF. All I have to do is place a line under VF (VF). This enables me to indicate the grades a little more accurately ie •F, F, F• (Almost Fine, Fine, Fine+) and I can still use the existing envelope.
Quote: numismaticroyI have over 25,000 coins and store them in acid free paper wallets. The grade is on the right and can be easily changed if I find a coin of better condition without having to get a new envelope.
All my coins are on a Microsoft Access database and most of them are also on Numista.com. This enables me to derive whatever statistics that I need.
Roy
these are stored upright in trays by country, Krause Number and date. This enables me to locate any coin easily.
All the trays are in country order in metal cabinits
Hi Roy, I also use the same cabinets to store all my swap coins, but still a long way off being sorted. Will upload pictures when I have them a little more sorted.
I'm relatively new to collecting coins and have a couple of daft questions concerning how to organise one's collection in an album.
Firstly, which side of a coin do collectors *typically* display (i.e., facing up): obverse or reverse? Since "reverse" implies the back, I suppose the obverse should be the primary display side, but then you potentially end up with a bunch of identical heads and no differentiating details/years, so I'm almost inclined to do the opposite!
Secondly, how do most collectors arrange their coins? Country first, then by year > face value, or by face value > year? Of course, it all comes down to personal preference, but just curious as to what's the most common practice amongst collectors here.
By the way, I have coin holders/inserts made by PCCB, as these were the only ones I could find without going online. Does anyone know if they're "coin safe"? They're made in China. :s
Each Vinyl sheet for paper currency would cost around 0.75 USD and will hold 3 notes. So I would need a minimum of 20 such sheets to hold my collection plus I would need more for future use. Gosh, wasn't aware that its going to be such a costly affair. I like some of the cost effective ideas you all have given.
Quote: newwaysysEach Vinyl sheet for paper currency would cost around 0.75 USD and will hold 3 notes. So I would need a minimum of 20 such sheets to hold my collection plus I would need more for future use. Gosh, wasn't aware that its going to be such a costly affair. I like some of the cost effective ideas you all have given.
Leuchtturm (I believe it's called Lighthouse in the US) sells albums specifically made for banknotes. They have 100 sheets that can hold up 300 banknotes and they only cost around 30 EUR each. That's about the cheapest you can get for storaging your notes.
"For by telling them of many things without teaching them you will make them seem to know much, while for the most part they know nothing"
-Plato
Quote: Miss MoneypennyI'm relatively new to collecting coins and have a couple of daft questions concerning how to organise one's collection in an album.
Firstly, which side of a coin do collectors *typically* display (i.e., facing up): obverse or reverse? Since "reverse" implies the back, I suppose the obverse should be the primary display side, but then you potentially end up with a bunch of identical heads and no differentiating details/years, so I'm almost inclined to do the opposite!
Secondly, how do most collectors arrange their coins? Country first, then by year > face value, or by face value > year? Of course, it all comes down to personal preference, but just curious as to what's the most common practice amongst collectors here.
By the way, I have coin holders/inserts made by PCCB, as these were the only ones I could find without going online. Does anyone know if they're "coin safe"? They're made in China. :s
This is they way I sort my coins:
I put all my coins in cartboard 2x2 flips which I put in sheets that can hold up 20 flips. I do this with almost every coin I have, except for special commemorative coins or big silver coins which I put in Quadrum capsules made by Lighthouse.
Anyways, I sort my coins as the following. First I look what the country of origin is of the coin and then i put for example all African coins in a binder with just African coins, all Latin-American coins in a binder with just Latin-American coins, etc. For European coins I sort by European sub-continents. So that means all coins from South European countries (like Spain, Italy, Portugal, etc.) in a binder for South European coins. The same goes for Nordic countries (Scandinavia and Baltics), Balkan (like Moldova, Greece, Yugoslavia, etc.), Western-, Eastern- and Central-European countries. I divide only Europe in these subcontinents because European coins form the largest part of my collection. After I have everything sort out by (sub)continent I place my coins alphabetically in order of country, then denomination, then date and at last mintmark (if there is one). If I gain new coins (usually new dates) I just put the new ones at the place in my album where I last finished. I don't bother not having them all in perfect order, otherwise I'd be removing and replacing coins over and over again. This is just the most effective way to organize my collection, it takes the least amound of space and I can find coins very quickly. When I put coins in flips, I usually display the side of the coin with the denomination, if I don't find that side interesting enough I display the other side. With commemorative coins I display the side with the commemorating event.
"For by telling them of many things without teaching them you will make them seem to know much, while for the most part they know nothing"
-Plato
Quote: CeruleanMy US coins are in Whitman folders, and I have similar folders for some Canadian coins.
My world coins are stored in plastic trays like this one. I bought the trays at a hobby/craft store, originally meant for sorting beads. My coins are sorted into the bin cells by date. I've filled four bins, and I just expanded into a fifth.
My banknotes live in a small cardboard box.
It's high time for an update:
I have folders for:
USA cents 1909-1940
USA cents 1941-1974
USA cents 1975-2013
USA nickels 1938-1961
USA nickels 1962-1995
USA nickels 1995-present
USA dimes 1946-1964
USA dimes 1965-2004
USA quarters 1965-1987
USA quarters 1988-1998
USA state quarters 1999-2001
USA state quarters 2002-2005
USA state and territory quarters 2006-2009
USA halves 1948-1963
USA halves 1964-1985
USA halves 1986-2003
USA dollars 1971-1999
Canada cents 1920-1996
Canada nickels 1922-2000
Canada dimes 1937-2000
Canada quarters 1937-1989
I have tubes for:
USA cents 2014-present
USA dimes 200 5-present
USA quarters 2010-present
USA sacagawea dollars 2000-present
USA president dollars 2007-2008
USA president dollars 2009-present
stockpiled USA halves and Eisenhower dollars
Canada cents 1997-2012
Canada nickels 2001-present
Canada dimes 2001-present
Canada quarters 1992-2003
Canada quarters 2004-2011
Canada quarters 2012-present
Canada loonies
Canada toonies
India 50 paise
India 1 rupee
India 2 rupees
India 5 rupees
Israel 10 agorot
Japan 1 yen
Japan 5 yen
Taiwan 1 yuan
Thailand 1 baht
UK pre-decimal pennies 1863-1922
UK pre-decimal pennies 1927-1967
UK decimal pennies
I have the 2004 set from Nagorno-Karabakh in a sheet of plastic pockets.
I have plastic trays for most of my coins. Each tray has fifteen cells. Generally, each date gets its own cell, except for the pre-1935 tray
pre-1935
1935-1949
1950-1964
1965-1979 europe
1965-1979 non-europe
1980-1994 western europe
1980-1994 western hemisphere
1980-1994 rest of world
1995-2009 western europe and eurozone
1995-2009 western hemisphere
1995-2009 rest of world
I have individual plastic bins for:
2010
2011
2012-present
I also have individual bins for coins without CE dates:
Northeast islamic Africa (Tunisia, Libya and Egypt)
Northwest islamic Africa (Algeria and Morocco)
Arabian Coast (Yemen, Oman, UAE, Bahrain, Kuwait)
Near East (Saudi Arabia, Jordan, Syria, Lebanon, Iraq)
Israel 1949-1979
Israel 1980-present
Persia (Iran, Afghanistan, Pakistan)
misc. Asia (Taiwan, Bangladesh, Nepal, Burma, Ethiopia)
Japan
Thailand
unidentified mystery coins
Because they irritate me, I also have separate bins for:
Spain star-era 1947-1957
Spain star era 1963-1980
I have a few hundred coins in 2x2s, mostly modern commemoratives, type-only coins (where the date is illegible), proofs, and any coins I have received in swaps that arrived already in 2x2s.
My swap coins are in plastic sandwich bags by date. Every year from 1966-2015 has its own bag. Dates from 1941-1965 are paired together in grouped bags. 1935-1940 is one bag, and pre-1935 is another bag. Swap coins without CE dates are bagged by country.
I also have 22 books in my coin library, and a cabinet that stores my exonumia. Tokens are in a separate plastic bag. The cabinet has a drawer for extra tubes, 2x2s and paper rolls, extra bags and bins, my scale, magnifier, calipers, novelty coins and coin-related pencils, pens, mousepads and dealer business cards.
The cabinet also holds my small stamp and banknote collections. Stamps are sorted into bags by country. Banknotes are in old boxes that used to hold bank checks, one for American and one for all others.
Thanks, Lotus07, for your comprehensive reply! I think I will do that, too, then (country > face value > year > mint mark), with the denomination side (usually the reverse) on display unless the other side is commemorative or looks more interesting.
But first I need to find a better album system, as the small pocket album I initially purchased is already full! An A4 album with loose pages seems the best way to go, but it looks like I'm going to have to order one online. No good quality coin supplies where I'm located, unfortunately.