Hello. Yesterday i got 5 new silver coins and I need a little help identifying them.
First coin - 20 Kuruş - Abdülḥamīd II (1876 - Ottoman Empire)
I only know that it is from Ottoman Empire. It's silver, 37 mm in diameter and (i'm just guessing this) about 30 grams. Year 1293 (Islamic year)
I think that it is this coin but I'm not so sure. here's the photo.
Quote: "MihajloNesic"First coin - 20 Kuruș - Murad V (1876 - Ottoman Empire)
I only know that it is from Ottoman Empire. It's silver, 37 mm in diameter and (i'm just guessing this) about 30 grams. Year 1293 (Islamic year)
I think that it is this coin but I'm not so sure. here's the photo.
Edit: I think that it's this one: 20 Kuruș - Murad V
(It matches the year, orientation, diameter, weight, thickness)
This is wrong. Your first choice was the correct one. It's not the 20 piastres from Murad V, but the 20 piastres from Abdul Hamid II. Your mistake is understandable. Murad V reigned less then a year in AH1293/AD1876. So the accession date on his coins is 1293 and the regnal year is 1. Abdul Hamid II reigned from AH1293-1327/AD1876-1909. So the accession date on his coins was also 1293 and the coins of his first year of reign have regnal date 1, just like on the Murad V coins. Weight and diameter for both 20 piastres coins were also the same.
BUT: The 20 piastres coin of Murad V has no flower right of the toughra, the 20 piastres coin of Abdul Hamid II does have a flower right of the toughra (like your coin!).
A good advice: when you think you have identified a coin but it's stated as "rare", double check the identification. Allthough we all want to find an unexpected "rare" coin for our collections, most of the time it is "rare" for a reason. So there is a big chance we've just misidentified the coin (unless of course we paid the price of a "rare" coin).
Quote: "MihajloNesic"First coin - 20 Kuruș - Murad V (1876 - Ottoman Empire)
I only know that it is from Ottoman Empire. It's silver, 37 mm in diameter and (i'm just guessing this) about 30 grams. Year 1293 (Islamic year)
I think that it is this coin but I'm not so sure. here's the photo.
Edit: I think that it's this one: 20 Kuruș - Murad V
(It matches the year, orientation, diameter, weight, thickness)
This is wrong. Your first choice was the correct one. It's not the 20 piastres from Murad V, but the 20 piastres from Abdul Hamid II. Your mistake is understandable. Murad V reigned less then a year in AH1293/AD1876. So the accession date on his coins is 1293 and the regnal year is 1. Abdul Hamid II reigned from AH1293-1327/AD1876-1909. So the accession date on his coins was also 1293 and the coins of his first year of reign have regnal date 1, just like on the Murad V coins. Weight and diameter for both 20 piastres coins were also the same.
BUT: The 20 piastres coin of Murad V has no flower right of the toughra, the 20 piastres coin of Abdul Hamid II does have a flower right of the toughra (like your coin!).
A good advice: when you think you have identified a coin but it's stated as "rare", double check the identification. Allthough we all want to find an unexpected "rare" coin for our collections, most of the time it is "rare" for a reason. So there is a big chance we've just misidentified the coin (unless of course we paid the price of a "rare" coin).
What about the orientation? It matches the Murad V coin (Medal alignment ↑↑)
Quote: "MihajloNesic"What about the orientation? It matches the Murad V coin (Medal alignment ↑↑)
The orientation of a coin is just a click in a checkbox, so a mistake is easily made. But wether or not a flower right of the toughra never lies.
Besides a coin alignment for a coin normally with medal alignment and vice versa is not uncommon.
I'm sorry for you, but your coin is a Murad V.
There are a few members who have that Murad V coin, and a few more who have the Abdul Hamid II coin. So you can search who has these coins and send them a message to check which orientation their coins have. But again, that flower doesn't lie.
