ID 2 Arabic coins - samenid ? horde? [solved]

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Hello,

I can't seem to find these coins anywhere on Numista. I think one is samenid and the other may be golden horde but I cannot seem to nail down exactly what period or value each has. Any help is greatly appreciated.

The right one looks like a Abassyd coin:
http://www.zeno.ru/search.php?searchid=264217
Non est totum quod splendet ut aurum
Rijkdom bestaat niet uit het hebben van veel bezittingen, maar in het hebben van weinig behoeften
Is it just me ?
I cant zoom in on the first picture.
neither can I.
Please re-post the first picture
thanks
Non est totum quod splendet ut aurum
Rijkdom bestaat niet uit het hebben van veel bezittingen, maar in het hebben van weinig behoeften
https://static-numista.com/forum/images/558451596d1f6.jpg
Quote: "PetrusAscanus"​The right one looks like a Abassyd coin:
http://www.zeno.ru/search.php?searchid=264217
​Yes, it looks Abbasyd. With two marginal legends must be after Al Mamun, and I think I can read part of the date 200 + 90 + x. Then Al Muktafi or Al Muqtadir.

Most of this Abassyd coins has the mint place Medina es Salam (Baghdad), but this isn't, and my Kufic isn't as good to read other mints.
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I'm 60% sure that the horde coin is of Jani Beg, the coins i found seem almost like yours but not quite. I looked through about one hundred or so. There are THOUSANDS to look through on Zeno - all spread out throughout many sub-categories. http://www.zeno.ru/showgallery.php?cat=2
The date on your coin is not entirely visible - we can see the first number: 7 ! Which is the first number. The second one is just barely visible, can anyone tell what it is ?
on the Jani Beg, I may be wrong but the year may be 7 5 6 AH. The 7 is clear and it looks like it may be a five with a bit of the right faded off and the line next to it leans a bit left may be a 6. That would be in the last few years of Jani Beg rule.
I believe that the Abassyd probably is Al Muktafi but I will continue researching it until I nail it down. Thank you for the insight. I appreciate all the input everyone has given so far for both coins.
These 2 categories are probably where you might find the Horde coin:
http://www.zeno.ru/showgallery.php?cat=4352
http://www.zeno.ru/showgallery.php?cat=925
Also, the fakes warning ...

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