Cash Coins from the East

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Quant.Geek

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Posted: 25 Jul 2015, 12:26 #

Please post your cash coins here. They can be from China, Japan or from South East Asia. I'll start with the following coin:

Imperial China, Ch'ing Dynasty: Xian Feng (1851-1861) FE 10 Cash, Board of Revenue, Peking (Hartill-22.737)

Obv: 咸豐重寶 Xian Feng zhong bao
Rev: Numbers for denomination above and below, mint left and right in Manchu; 當十 ᠪᠣᠣ ᠴᡠᠸᠠᠨ; Dang shi (Value Ten) Boo chiowan

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Posted: 26 Jul 2015, 04:19 #

Here is one from the Ryukyu Islands that isn't encountered normally:

Japan, Ryukyu Islands: ½ Shu ND (JDNA2008-134.2, KM-C115)

Obv: Ryuukyuu Tsuuhou in seal script
Rev: "han shu" in seal script

JustforFun

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Posted: 26 Jul 2015, 07:58 #

I have like 200 of this coins which I should work on them tonight... I will try to lad the best ones... I have not yet categorize them so maybe the link to the coins will be missing until I can update during the week.

Nice post.

JustforFun...

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Posted: 26 Jul 2015, 12:40 #

The other matching coin from Ryukyu Islands:

Japan, Ryukyu Islands: 100 Mon, ND (JNDA2008-134.1, KM-C100)

Obv: 琉球通寶 (Ryu Ku Tsu Ho)
Rev: 當百 (To Hyaku; value 100)

Edge stamped with サ (sa), the first syllable of Satsuma.

Quant.Geek

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Posted: 26 Jul 2015, 12:45 #

Back to China:

Imperial China, Southern Song: Kai Xi (1205-1207) FE 2 Cash, Tongan Mint (Hartill-17.529)
Emperor Ning Zong (1195-1224)

Obv: 開(开)禧通宝 Kai Xi tong bao
Rev: 同 Tong above. Tongan mint, Anhui. Numbers for the year of casting below. 三 san (Year 3 - 1203)

frncsbrennan

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Posted: 26 Jul 2015, 14:02 #

Quote: Quant.GeekHere is one from the Ryukyu Islands that isn't encountered normally:

Japan, Ryukyu Islands: ½ Shu ND (JDNA2008-134.2, KM-C115)

Obv: Ryuukyuu Tsuuhou in seal script
Rev: "han shu" in seal script

That is a nice coin,

dptashny

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Posted: 26 Jul 2015, 14:21 #

China - Empire - State of Yan - 1 Hua (300 BC - 220 BC)

dptashny

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Posted: 26 Jul 2015, 14:23 #

China - Empire - 1 Cash - Shaosheng (Running script) (1094-1098)

dptashny

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Posted: 26 Jul 2015, 14:30 #

Japan - 1 Mon (Variety unidentified!!)

Quant.Geek

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Posted: 26 Jul 2015, 16:27 #

Quote: dptashnyChina - Empire - State of Yan - 1 Hua (300 BC - 220 BC)

Seems to be Hartill-6.17:

Imperial China, State of Yuan: Yi Hua (300-200 BCE) AE Hua (Hartill-6.17)

Obv: 化 Yi Hua (One Hua)
Rev: Plain

dptashny

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Posted: 26 Jul 2015, 16:34 #

Thanks! It's already in the catalog though.

kolikko99

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Posted: 26 Jul 2015, 16:35 #

1 Cash - Shaosheng

1094-1098 AD

Quant.Geek

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Posted: 26 Jul 2015, 16:39 #

Quote: dptashnyChina - Empire - 1 Cash - Shaosheng (Running script) (1094-1098)

Seems to be Hartill-16.319:

Imperial China: Shao Sheng (1094-1097 CE) AE Cash (Hartill-16.319)
Emperor Zhe Zong (1086-1100)

Obv: 紹聖(圣)元寶 Shao Sheng yuan bao c/wise. Running script
Rev: Blank

Quant.Geek

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Posted: 26 Jul 2015, 16:40 #

Quote: dptashnyThanks! It's already in the catalog though.

Well, I rarely use the catalog

, so I didn't know...

kolikko99

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Posted: 26 Jul 2015, 16:47 #

½ Liang Qin

-300--200

Obverse
Chinese characters
"BanLiang"

Lettering: 两　半

JustforFun

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Posted: 27 Jul 2015, 11:31 #

This are few of the ones I have... sadly my photo skills sucks!!!

I should be looking the ways how to improve than as some of them really miss the good looking of an old coin. even if they are damaged they look better than this pictures...

These ones are almost the same size besides the one on the top right, but they all have the same obverse.

I hope you enjoy! I have some of these coins available for swap... (not listed yet)

JustforFun...

Quant.Geek

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Posted: 27 Jul 2015, 13:56 #

Quote: dptashnyJapan - 1 Mon (Variety unidentified!!)

Nearly impossible to classify precisely, at least, for an amateur like me. There are hundreds of varieties. If you are really inclined to get the mint and year identified, try http://www.zeno.ru/showgallery.php?cat=1499 or http://japanesecashcoins.blogspot.com...

Quant.Geek

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Posted: 27 Jul 2015, 14:43 #

Back to Japan

These are the so-called "Shin Kanei Tsuho-type" coins...

Imperial Japan: Tokugawa Shogunate (1603-1868) AE mon, Kosuge Mint (Hartill-4.217; JNDA-72)

Obv: 寛永通寳 (Kan Ei tsu ho); cast 1859-1867
Rev: Blank

Quant.Geek

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Posted: 27 Jul 2015, 15:35 #

Imperial Japan: Tokugawa Shogunate (1603-1868) AE 4 mon (Hartill-5.17; JNDA-2)

Obv: 文久永寳 (Bun Kyu ei ho); cast 1863-1868
Rev: 11 waves with broad rim around hole

Some free references to help you attribute your coins, if necessary:

Munro, Neil G., Coins of Japan, Box of Curios, 1904
Sakuraki et al., Catalogue of the Japanese Coin Collection (pre-Meiji) at the British Museum, Trustees of the British Museum, 2010

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Posted: 27 Jul 2015, 16:13 #

@JustforFun:

Imperial Japan: Tokugawa Shogunate (1603-1868) AE 4 mon (JNDA-75)

Obv: 寛永通寶 (Kan Ei tsu ho)
Rev: 11 waves with broad rim around hole

Quant.Geek

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Posted: 28 Jul 2015, 13:35 #

Here is one that most collectors probably are not aware of. This is from Sogdiana which was at the crossroads of the Silk Trade Route. A very interesting culture that had elements of Indian, Greek, Chinese and Arabic:

Sogdiana, Principality of Samitan: Nanaiabiat Samidanian (ca. 700-800 CE) AE Cash (Fedorov: pl. 24, 1-6)

Obv: Sogdian legend around square hole, which can be translated as 'Nanaiabiat Samidanian', Samidan being the town's name, Nanaiabiat the ruler.
Rev: Tamgha each side of square hole. The identical tamghas are in the form of a semi-circle on a pedestal; small annulet in semi-circle.

Reference

Fedorov, M., & Kuznetsov, A. (2010). A Hoard of Early Medieval Sogdian Bronze Coins from the Ming Tepe Hillfort. The Numismatic Chronicle, 170, 446-451.

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Posted: 29 Jul 2015, 02:17 #

Imperial Japan: Tokugawa Shogunate (1603-1868) AE mon, Osaka Mint (Hartill-4.198; JNDA-59)

Obv: 寛永通寳 (Kan Ei tsu ho); cast 1859-1867
Rev: 元 (gen) above on reverse

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Posted: 29 Jul 2015, 13:53 #

Eastern Sogdiana, Ikhshids of Samarqand: Imitation of Gurak (710-738) AE Cash (Smirnova-400)

Another interesting coin from the Silk Road. These coins are classified differently between Smirnova and Akhunbabaev. Smirnova indicates that these are imitation coins of Gurak and hence read the inscription as "wr`kk MLK". However, Akhunbabaev attributed these coins to Divashtish, ruler of Penjikent. In this case, the inscription is read as "prykk MLK" which indicates Afrig Ikhshid. The tamgha is the same as Tukaspadak's and Tarkhun's and differing from the tamgha of Gurak.

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Posted: 29 Jul 2015, 13:55 #

Imperial China, Ch'ing Dynasty: Xian Feng (1851-1861) FE 50 Cash, Board of Revenue, Peking (Hartill-22.702)

Obv: 咸豐重寶 Xian Feng zhong bao
Rev: Numbers for denomination above and below, mint left and right in Manchu; 當十五 ᠪᠣᠣ ᠴᡠᠸᠠᠨ; Dang wushi (Value Fifty) Boo chiowan

Quant.Geek

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Posted: 30 Jul 2015, 00:48 #

Imperial China, Ch'ing Dynasty: Xian Feng (1851-1861) FE 10 Cash, Baoding Mint (Hartill-22.1055)

Obv: 咸豐重寶 Xian Feng zhong bao
Rev: Numbers for denomination above and below, mint left and right in Manchu; 當十 ᠪᠣᠣ ᡷᡳ; Dang Shi (Value Ten) Boo jyi

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Posted: 30 Jul 2015, 00:50 #

Imperial China, Yuan Dynasty: Emperor Wu Zong 10 Cash, 1310-1311 (Hartill-19.46)

Obv: Ta Üen tung baw in Phags-Pa (ꡈꡝ ꡝꡦꡦꡋ ꡉꡟꡃ ꡎꡓ) = 大元通寶 Da Yuan tong bao
Rev: Blank

Note: Phags-Pa is written top-down and hence the whole inscription needs to be rotated 90 degrees clockwise. To mimic this behavior, Unicode encodes the letters rotated 90 degrees counter-clockwise. Finally, the inscription on the coin is read top, bottom, left and then right...

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Posted: 30 Jul 2015, 00:59 #

Quote: kolikko99½ Liang Qin

-300--200

Obverse
Chinese characters
"BanLiang"

Lettering: 两　半

Another nice coin. Attributed as Hartill-7.05...

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Posted: 11 Sep 2015, 12:54 #

Imperial China, Southern Song: Qing Yuan (1195-1200) AE 3 Cash (Hartill-17.446)

Obv: 慶(庆)元通寶 Qing Yuan tong bao
Rev: 五 wu; Year of casting (1199)

Quant.Geek

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Posted: 12 Sep 2015, 22:14 #

Imperial Japan: Keio (1865-1868) AE 50 Mon, Hosogaya Mint (Hartill-7.4)

Obv: 富国強兵 (Fukoku Ryohei; Enrich the Country and Strengthen the Military)
Rev: Tiger around central hole

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Posted: 15 Sep 2015, 16:11 #

Imperial China, Northern Song: Sheng Song (1101-1106 CE) AE Cash (Hartill-16.379)

Obv: 聖(圣)宋元寶 Sheng Song yuan bao clockwise. Running script with Claw feet bao
Rev: Blank

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Posted: 23 Sep 2015, 19:52 #

Imperial China, Yuan Dynasty: Zhi Zheng (1352) AE 2 wen (Hartill-19.100; Schjöth-1104)

Obv: 至正通寶 Zhi Zheng tong bao
Rev: Mongol word on reverse above for the cyclical characters for the year of casting: ꡚꡞꡋ Shin for 壬辰 ren-chen; 1352

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Posted: 9 Apr 2016, 14:00 #

Imperial China, Tang Dynasty: Emperor Su Zong (758-759) 10 Cash (Hartill-14.101; Schjöth-352)

Obv: 乾元重寳 Qian Yuan zhong bao
Rev: Blank

Peter M. Graham

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Posted: 9 Apr 2016, 15:16 #

Qianlong, 6th emperor of the Qing dynasty (Manchu) 1736-1795
Boo-chuwan (Chengdu, Sichuan)

It ain't what you don't know that gets you into trouble. It's what you know for sure, that just ain't so. Mark Twain

Quant.Geek

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Posted: 9 Apr 2016, 15:47 #

Quote: "Peter M. Graham"Qianlong, 6th emperor of the Qing dynasty (Manchu) 1736-1795
Boo-chuwan (Chengdu, Sichuan)

Very nice! Manchurian script needs to be rotated 90 degrees clockwise to be read properly...

Obv: 乾隆通寶 (Qian Long Tong bao)
Rev: ᠪᠣᠣ ᠴᡠᠸᠠᠨ (Boo chuwan)

Peter M. Graham

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Posted: 9 Apr 2016, 16:59 #

Quote: "Quant.Geek"

Quote: "Peter M. Graham"Qianlong, 6th emperor of the Qing dynasty (Manchu) 1736-1795
Boo-chuwan (Chengdu, Sichuan)

Very nice! Manchurian script needs to be rotated 90 degrees clockwise to be read properly...

Obv: 乾隆通寶 (Qian Long Tong bao)
Rev: ᠪᠣᠣ ᠴᡠᠸᠠᠨ (Boo chuwan)

OOPPPPS!

It ain't what you don't know that gets you into trouble. It's what you know for sure, that just ain't so. Mark Twain

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Posted: 9 Apr 2016, 17:46 #

Quote: "Peter M. Graham"

Quote: "Quant.Geek"

Quote: "Peter M. Graham"Qianlong, 6th emperor of the Qing dynasty (Manchu) 1736-1795
Boo-chuwan (Chengdu, Sichuan)

Very nice! Manchurian script needs to be rotated 90 degrees clockwise to be read properly...

Obv: 乾隆通寶 (Qian Long Tong bao)
Rev: ᠪᠣᠣ ᠴᡠᠸᠠᠨ (Boo chuwan)

OOPPPPS!

Is there a mistake on my part?

chomp-master

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Posted: 11 Apr 2016, 07:36 #

Another examples of Japan Kanei Tsuho Mon

A Vietnamese member told me this is a Imperial Vietnam 1 Văn - Thiên Thánh Nguyên Bao (An Phap Annamese rebellion imitation) Toda# 28

Korea 2 Mun KM# 166 (1695-1742)

And, to conclude, an ugly piece I theoretically own, but I'm unable to find it again:

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OldCurrencyExchange

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Posted: 11 Apr 2016, 11:19 #

These coins are a great topic for a beginner since there are so many different varieties and most of them are quite common, i.e. inexpensive. They also give a fantastic insight into the history of the geo-political, socio-economic and history of what contemporary Europeans called the Far East.

Quant-Geek

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Posted: 24 Oct 2019, 19:13 #
Edited: 24 Oct 2019, 19:46

Imperial China, Ming Rebels: Yong Li (1646-1659) AE 5 Cash (Hartill-21.74)

Obv: 永曆通寶 Yong Li Tong Bao
Rev: Numbers for denomination above and below; 五厘 Wu Li (Five Li [of Silver])

A gallery of my coins and artifacts can been seen on FORVM Ancient Coins

Quant-Geek

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Posted: 24 Oct 2019, 19:27 #
Edited: 24 Oct 2019, 19:46

Imperial China, Western Han Dynasty: Ban Liang (136-119BC) Four Zhu (Hartill-7.32)

Obv: 半两 Ban Liang (Half Ounce). Bottom of liang like M. Fine workmanship.
Rev: Plain and flat.

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Posted: 25 Oct 2019, 12:55 #

Qing Dynasty, Xuantong, 1 cash coins (1909-10), small variety.

Both were minted in Beijing. The left at the Board of Revenue's West Branch and the right at the North Branch. Hartill 22.1513 & 22.1514, respectively.

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