Thesilversurfer
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Posted: 19 Jul 2015, 13:18
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Posted: 19 Jul 2015, 13:18
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Hey people i have had this coin for about 3 years got it in a collection from a carboot sale, have never been able to identify it, any ideas?
yes that is both sides of the coin, i have heard about trick coin, but this is just far to thin to have been soldered together. May have been cast but doesn't look it. Any ideas because im stumped
Frenchlover
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Posted: 19 Jul 2015, 15:36
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Posted: 19 Jul 2015, 15:36
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It might be a Canadian "one Penny" magic bank token ?
That's what I found the closest:
Referee of south atlantic islands
ALLRED1950
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Posted: 19 Jul 2015, 16:39
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Posted: 19 Jul 2015, 16:39
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That is an odd one but like Frenchlover said i think it is a token. Would be nice to get more information on it
It is, what it is, or is it.
Thesilversurfer
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Posted: 19 Jul 2015, 17:02
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Posted: 19 Jul 2015, 17:02
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No thats not it similar with the reef, but that is common in older coins, really struggling with this, it was heavily covered in oxodisation when i found it, i have electronically cleaned it so it looks clearer for a picture, im stumped
would of helped if we had the side with the dates hey. Lol think im going to take it to a auction house expert in my local area see if they can help.
ALLRED1950
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Posted: 19 Jul 2015, 17:12
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Posted: 19 Jul 2015, 17:12
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Please let us know what he say about it. Me i think it is English, because of the word penny. In the US and later Canadain coins normaly uses cent. Good luck
yours daryl
It is, what it is, or is it.
pnightingale
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Posted: 19 Jul 2015, 17:27
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Posted: 19 Jul 2015, 17:27
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It might be a mule of a trader's token. They are not rare and some were even rumored to have been produced just for collectors.
The diameter would give a better clue.
Non illegitimis carborundum est. Excellent advice for all coins.
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Thesilversurfer
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Posted: 19 Jul 2015, 18:13
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Posted: 19 Jul 2015, 18:13
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Its aprox 1.5 mm dia, and half a .5mm thick. Hope this helps weight is 0.81 grams
pnightingale
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Posted: 19 Jul 2015, 18:31
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Posted: 19 Jul 2015, 18:31
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Well, you can rule out Conder tokens or Masonic tokens as they are over twice this size.
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radrick007
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Posted: 20 Jul 2015, 13:47
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Posted: 20 Jul 2015, 13:47
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Quote: Thesilversurfer Its aprox 1.5 mm dia, and half a .5mm thick. Hope this helps weight is 0.81 gramsWow! That's got to be a contender for the world's smallest coin! Or perhaps you meant 1.5cm diameter?
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Thesilversurfer
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Posted: 20 Jul 2015, 13:50
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Posted: 20 Jul 2015, 13:50
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Yes sorry 15mm didnt mean to put 1.5mm. Thanks for pointing it out.
numismaticroy
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Posted: 20 Jul 2015, 16:48
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Posted: 20 Jul 2015, 16:48
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This is part of a set of coins made by private mints probably in Germany (see following)
https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces41074.html
The guidebook and catalogue of British commonwealth coins lists it as #48 (Denomination in wreath on obverse and reverse)
I don't have the penny but have the following
Roy
https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces41074.html
https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces54998.html
https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces54943.html
https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces55070.html
Thesilversurfer
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Posted: 20 Jul 2015, 17:34
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Posted: 20 Jul 2015, 17:34
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Quote: numismaticroy This is part of a set of coins made by private mints probably in Germany (see following)
https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces41074.html
The guidebook and catalogue of British commonwealth coins lists it as #48 (Denomination in wreath on obverse and reverse)
I don't have the penny but have the following
Roy
https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces41074.html
https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces54998.html
https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces54943.html
https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces55070.html Roy i could kiss you, this has been rattling my brain for so long its been driving me mad, thank you so much as i think you have hit the nail on the head.
Think the only difference is mine is made of copper not iron.
Thesilversurfer
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Posted: 20 Jul 2015, 17:37
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Posted: 20 Jul 2015, 17:37
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If you are interested in adding it to your other ones pm me. As i am mainly interested in silver coinage due to its history around finance. Thanks again
numismaticroy
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Posted: 20 Jul 2015, 18:33
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Posted: 20 Jul 2015, 18:33
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British commonwealth coins lists #48 as being copper.
Roy
Thesilversurfer
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Posted: 20 Jul 2015, 19:20
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Posted: 20 Jul 2015, 19:20
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Do you have a link to the site, would be very helpfull.
numismaticroy
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Posted: 20 Jul 2015, 20:25
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Posted: 20 Jul 2015, 20:25
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To my knowledge there is not a website with the info. It comes from a book I have which was printed in 1971.
Roy
Thesilversurfer
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Posted: 20 Jul 2015, 20:39
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Posted: 20 Jul 2015, 20:39
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Ok thanks for the info. Been much help.
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