"Celui qui combat des monstres doit prendre garde à ne pas devenir monstre lui-même. Si tu contemples longtemps un abîme, l’abîme aussi regarde en toi." N.
Ex-référent/modérateur/administrateur à la retraite
The ottoman gold one has a very crudely written Constantinople. Might be fake - but could be a jewelry piece actually made of gold.
Also I'm intrigued about the non-Arabic coin! What is that ?
Kommodore is correct
The gold one is not gold.
I have a similar one (16mm, 0.5 cedid imitation)
and this (40mm, 1 cedid imitation)
This is a "belly dancers' costume" imitation Ottoman coin. The tip off is the regnal year, 78. Neither Mahmud nor any other sultan has ruled this long. As for the content, I wouldn't expect any gold in it at all.
The little one looks like German or Austrian.
There is a date but I can not read it (1664?)
...LANDE MUNZ
edit:
Cologne
2 pfennig 1684(?)
legend:
II
PF BR
LANDT
MUNZ
Ruler: Friedrich Wilhelm, 1640-1688 https://www.numisbids.com/n.php?p=lot&sid=433&lot=1138
Non est totum quod splendet ut aurum
Rijkdom bestaat niet uit het hebben van veel bezittingen, maar in het hebben van weinig behoeften
Just as I thought, this person is on eBay playing the whole "Dumb don't know much about coins" routine, so I tested the water and told them one coin may be gold and a few hammered she/he had could be over £150 a piece, her reply was "mother said to let them go and they get what they get"
she has a lot listed from bulk GB and world coins to what looked like henry VIII hammered and of course the one I have posted here.
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