was at a street market about 2 weeks ago and came across this coin.
Seemed very nice, so quickly went around the corner and checked on Numista`s mobile page for more details prior to purchasing the coin. He wanted R400 (approx.. $40) for the coin.
I typed "PIASTRE 1890A" and behold, I could not believe my eyes! "ultra rare".
I immediately went back to him and tried to bargain but eventually paid R400.
Rushing home, to get more info on the coin and thinking "I have hit the jackpot", to my surprize...
.. the coin is 27GR and not 27.215 GR as suppose to be.
is it fake
And it is not the same as this one, there is wrote on the coin 27 GR and not 27,215 GR...
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The year of minting corresponds to a 27,215GR and 1st 27GR minting year seems to be 1895. Sounds fake. In case of, try to measure it.
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The date on the obverse doesn't match with the weight on the reverse (which should read "27.215 GR" for the 1890 coin).
Based furthermore on the crudeness of the date letters and the overall dullness of the other details, I'm pretty sure that this is a fake.
And if someone offers you an ultra rare date for a regular price, some alarm should go off. Don't be naive: these vendors know damn well what there selling and will not sell a rare coin by mistake.
Hello,
Did you try the magnet?
It sound simple but often such crude fakes are magnetic.
Very good silver fake would not have such an error for weight.
Cheers,
Andre
Quand l'Histoire et la Géographie se croisent sur nos pièces de monnaie ...
It has the same characteristics as a 27GR.
Same weight and dimension. It is non-magnetic.
So, seems like it was a 27GR and someone removed the last 2 date numbers and replaced them with "90".
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If you compare the 1 with the other three numbers, they probably removed the last 3 date numbers of a KM# 5a coin and replaced them by "890". The "1" looks totally different than the next three numbers and the lettering. The "890" is much sharper and clearer than all the rest on the coin:
I'm sure that this was not an original coin from the beginning.
Sometimes, an authentic 'common' date coin is falsified into a key date coin, but not in this case. I think that dies for producing fake coins have been reengineered to produce fake key date coins.
Mismatches between obverse and reverse are common in fake coins. Non-existing dates is another common phenomenon: my fake piastre is dated 1933 and see also this post for an Indo China 50-cts with an out of range date.
