Queen Elizabeth II gold 1/2 Sovereigns & Sovereigns struck in India.

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BCNumismatics

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Posted: 6 Apr 2015, 13:09 #

The Queen Elizabeth II gold 1/2 Sovereigns & Sovereigns that have been struck in India should be listed under 'India - Republic'.

Who else agrees with me on this?

British type 1/2 Sovereigns & Sovereigns were also struck in Australia,Canada,India (1918),& South Africa - & should also be listed under those countries as well.

Aidan.

adithyasrao

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Posted: 6 Apr 2015, 13:50 #

Quote: BCNumismaticsThe Queen Elizabeth II gold 1/2 Sovereigns & Sovereigns that have been struck in India should be listed under 'India - Republic'.

British type 1/2 Sovereigns & Sovereigns were also struck in Australia,Canada,India (1918),& South Africa - & should also be listed under those countries as well.

Aidan.

If it was struck in india in (1918) it should be placed under "India-British" because india became republic in1947.

chomp-master

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Posted: 6 Apr 2015, 18:58 #

There is still a problem: QEII became queen in 1950's, after India became independant. The main question is: who used the India-minted Half-Sovereigns and Sovereigns?

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BCNumismatics

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Posted: 6 Apr 2015, 23:14 #

Quote: adithyasrao
Quote: BCNumismaticsThe Queen Elizabeth II gold 1/2 Sovereigns & Sovereigns that have been struck in India should be listed under 'India - Republic'.

British type 1/2 Sovereigns & Sovereigns were also struck in Australia,Canada,India (1918),& South Africa - & should also be listed under those countries as well.

Aidan.
If it was struck in india in (1918) it should be placed under "India-British" because india became republic in1947.

India actually became a Dominion on the 15th. of August 1947,then a republic on the 26th. of January 1950.

Aidan.

BCNumismatics

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Posted: 6 Apr 2015, 23:18 #

Quote: chomp-masterThere is still a problem: QEII became queen in 1950's, after India became independant. The main question is: who used the India-minted Half-Sovereigns and Sovereigns?

Queen Elizabeth II succeeded to the throne on the 6th. of February 1952.

The Queen Elizabeth II Indian 1/2 Sovereigns & Sovereigns have been sold basically like bullion,but there are coin collectors who have been buying them up.

Aidan.

adithyasrao

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Posted: 7 Apr 2015, 08:12 #

Quote: adithyasraoIf it was struck in india in (1918) it should be placed under "India-British" because india became republic in1947.

sorry for telling that India became republic in 1947.

Quote: BCNumismaticsIndia actually became a Dominion on the 15th. of August 1947,then a republic on the 26th. of January 1950.

Aidan.

how did i forget that being an Indian .

adithyasrao

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Posted: 7 Apr 2015, 08:24 #

Quote: BCNumismatics
Quote: chomp-masterThere is still a problem: QEII became queen in 1950's, after India became independant. The main question is: who used the India-minted Half-Sovereigns and Sovereigns?
Queen Elizabeth II succeeded to the throne on the 6th. of February 1952.

Aidan.

But i think India started to mint coins having the 'Asoka Lion Capital' on obverse instead of 'British Royal family members' in 1950 itself.

BCNumismatics

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Posted: 15 Apr 2015, 10:41 #

But i think India started to mint coins having the 'Asoka Lion Capital' on obverse instead of 'British Royal family members' in 1950 itself.1950 was the year the first pre-decimal coins of the Republic of India.

In 1949,a series of very rare pattern coins with the Asokan capital on the obverse were struck.Those are the only coins of the Dominion of India that were struck - even though their reverse designs were rejected for various reasons.

1947 was the last year coins were struck for British India.

Aidan.

chomp-master

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Posted: 15 Apr 2015, 12:50 #

Anyway Initially we were speaking about gold coinage from QEII struck in India, after the independance, so a QEII coin can't be a Republic coinage

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BCNumismatics

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Posted: 15 Apr 2015, 13:30 #

Quote: chomp-masterAnyway Initially we were speaking about gold coinage from QEII struck in India, after the independance, so a QEII coin can't be a Republic coinage

Queen Elizabeth II has never been India's head of state - but India is a British Commonwealth republic though.

The Queen Elizabeth II 1/2 Sovereigns & Sovereigns with the 'I' mintmark were most definitely struck in India.

Aidan.

chomp-master

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Posted: 15 Apr 2015, 13:43 #

But was the coin considered for the Indian currency? I think not. So even struck in India, for me it can't be classified in India, as no use from the Indian mint except maybe export to the UK.

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BCNumismatics

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Posted: 16 Apr 2015, 00:33 #

Quote: chomp-masterBut was the coin considered for the Indian currency? I think not. So even struck in India, for me it can't be classified in India, as no use from the Indian mint except maybe export to the UK.

They were struck under licence from the Royal Mint at a mint in New Delhi,& offered for sale mainly in India.

Therefore,these are Indian coins,not British coins.

Have a read here;

http://www.royalmint.com/shop/The_2013_Sovereign_Struck_In_India .

Coins dated 2014 I also exist as well.

Aidan.

adithyasrao

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Posted: 16 Apr 2015, 03:13 #

the link says

1) the coins were produced 2013 .
2)the coins were not struck after 1918.

this has a long gap of 95 years.

BCNumismatics

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Posted: 16 Apr 2015, 07:10 #

Quote: adithyasraothe link says

1) the coins were produced 2013 .
2)the coins were not struck after 1918.

this has a long gap of 95 years.

That is true,but it does not change the fact that the Queen Elizabeth II coins are still Indian coins though.

Aidan.

adithyasrao

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Posted: 16 Apr 2015, 10:15 #

in that case the two coins should be added to a new country named "british common wealth india " .

BCNumismatics

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Posted: 16 Apr 2015, 10:59 #

Quote: adithyasrao in that case the two coins should be added to a new country named "british common wealth india " .

India is a British Commonwealth country - the first British Commonwealth republic since the 26th. of January 1950.

Aidan.

jbreynolds

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Posted: 16 Apr 2015, 16:41 #

Quote: BCNumismatics
Quote: adithyasraothe link says

1) the coins were produced 2013 .
2)the coins were not struck after 1918.

this has a long gap of 95 years.
That is true,but it does not change the fact that the Queen Elizabeth II coins are still Indian coins though.

Aidan.

Are the Andorra Euro coins struck in Madrid really Spanish coins, then?

chomp-master

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Posted: 17 Apr 2015, 07:57 #

Quote: jbreynolds
Quote: BCNumismatics
Quote: adithyasraothe link says

1) the coins were produced 2013 .
2)the coins were not struck after 1918.

this has a long gap of 95 years.
That is true,but it does not change the fact that the Queen Elizabeth II coins are still Indian coins though.

Aidan.
Are the Andorra Euro coins struck in Madrid really Spanish coins, then?

Monegasque = French? Sanmarinese and Vaticanese = Italian? Luxembourgish = Dutch, Finnish or French? And the list is not exhaustive.

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BCNumismatics

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Posted: 18 Apr 2015, 01:20 #

Quote: chomp-masterMonegasque = French? Sanmarinese and Vaticanese = Italian? Luxembourgish = Dutch, Finnish or French? And the list is not exhaustive.

Quite a few countries around the world,not just in Europe do not have their own mints.

Have a read here; http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_mints & here; http://www.mintsoftheworld.com/ .

Aidan.

adithyasrao

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Posted: 19 Apr 2015, 12:54 #

the coin is placed correctly in the catalog.

adithyasrao

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Posted: 19 Apr 2015, 13:01 #

Quote: BCNumismaticsThe Queen Elizabeth II gold 1/2 Sovereigns & Sovereigns that have been struck in India should be listed under 'India - Republic'.

British type 1/2 Sovereigns & Sovereigns were also struck in Australia,Canada,India (1918),& South Africa - & should also be listed under those countries as well.

Aidan.

according to you

https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces5474.html

This 2 rupee coin shoud be placed under 6 different countries
1)India
2)Moscow
3)Korea
4)south Africa
5)UK
6)Dominican Republic

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