Since we can only have one picture per coin, does anyone else think it would be a good idea to separate out coins that have individually broken down KM numbers? For example: https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces21973.html
This coin has Y#306.1 ("元銅十當"; Wheat ear design within circle), Y#306.1b ("元銅十當", thin leaf blade between lower wheat ears), Y#306.2 (dot on either side of upper legend on obverse, "元銅十當"; Wheat ear design within circle), Y#306.2b (dot on either side of upper legend on obverse; "元銅十當", thin leaf blade between lower wheat ears), Y#306.3 (star between flags on obverse, "元銅十當"; Wheat ear design within circle) and Y#306.4 (Elongated rosettes, "圓銅拾當"; Thin leaf blade between lower wheat ears) .
Which is nice, but some of these varieties are difficult to distinguish, except in comparison.
If they were separate, then there could be a picture of each variety, (assuming our members have one of the coins).
Quote: jadejackalSince we can only have one picture per coin, does anyone else think it would be a good idea to separate out coins that have individually broken down KM numbers? For example: https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces21973.html
This coin has Y#306.1 ("元銅十當"; Wheat ear design within circle), Y#306.1b ("元銅十當", thin leaf blade between lower wheat ears), Y#306.2 (dot on either side of upper legend on obverse, "元銅十當"; Wheat ear design within circle), Y#306.2b (dot on either side of upper legend on obverse; "元銅十當", thin leaf blade between lower wheat ears), Y#306.3 (star between flags on obverse, "元銅十當"; Wheat ear design within circle) and Y#306.4 (Elongated rosettes, "圓銅拾當"; Thin leaf blade between lower wheat ears) .
Which is nice, but some of these varieties are difficult to distinguish, except in comparison.
If they were separate, then there could be a picture of each variety, (assuming our members have one of the coins).
I am very glad you bright this up I agree with you 100% this would not only be easier for the users but even in the Krause Catalogs they are broken up this way so it would streamline withe the books at the same time.
In Numista Referee rule Xavier posted that these should be placed into one coin sheet and be marked with their differences in the description and adding into the dates the different dates with their respective KM#
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I wouldn't want them separately totally, but rather info and pictures for them on coin page or link to "varieties " that then can open in separate windows with pictures.
I think the easiest fix would be just allow more than one picture on the page if there is more than one variety of the coin and just have them show up like the regular page like the ones do now and just have the variety listed next to the pic.
"In Numista Referee rule Xavier posted that these should be placed into one coin sheet and be marked with their differences in the description and adding into the dates the different dates with their respective KM#"
I'm not discussing what the rules currently say, I'm pointing out a problem we have. Rules can be changed, and are more likely to be changed than the code base of the site. With out context what does "thin" or "elongated" mean?
Quote: jadejackal"In Numista Referee rule Xavier posted that these should be placed into one coin sheet and be marked with their differences in the description and adding into the dates the different dates with their respective KM#"
I'm not discussing what the rules currently say, I'm pointing out a problem we have. Rules can be changed, and are more likely to be changed than the code base of the site. With out context what does "thin" or "elongated" mean?
I agree 100% but have a feeling it will never change
I Think that all Sub-KM-s must be listed separately.
For example, there are a big differences in George V South Africa coins, but they are listed as one page with separation in years.
I think its wrong.
In this case, we must list as one coin all South African coins, and add in description " George V, George VI, E.II,"
or .. 20 cents 2001 - 2014 , and add in description all that languages which are the sense of separation into sub-KMs.
Im ready to assist in African coinage with my time and my own pictures.
I vote for keeping them on the same page, with proper annotations to identify each variety.
if there were a separate page for every single variety, then it would be frustrating trying to find the *right* page for my particular coin. Click on link, try to ID coin, not a match, navigate back, click a link, repeat, repeat, repeat. Yuck. Colnect does this with stamps, and I'd hate to see it here.
It's far easier to navigate to the right page if the varieties are all in one place!
Quote: CeruleanI vote for keeping them on the same page, with proper annotations to identify each variety.
if there were a separate page for every single variety, then it would be frustrating trying to find the *right* page for my particular coin. Click on link, try to ID coin, not a match, navigate back, click a link, repeat, repeat, repeat. Yuck. Numista does this with stamps, and I'd hate to see it here.
It's far easier to navigate to the right page if the varieties are all in one place!
I agree 100 %. Thats why I also prefer on same page. Also I might not even know to look for these varieties if they are on separate page which means I will never find out they even exist unless I look through all coins under this country.
From past discussions, see
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Posted: 23-Sep-2013, 09:37AM ... by Xavier, before the long absence and recent difficulties.
Thank you all for your suggestions. I have summarized the ideas of this topic. Some are very good and will be implemented as soon as possible. Other need more thoughts before I can make a decision. At last there are some ideas that I don't like and I explain why.
Here are the ideas I have added to my TODO list:
Alternative Catalog Numbers
Links between coin pages
Improved dashboard (various and funny stats)
More pictures per page to show variations
Type a country's name and have it shown where it is on the map
Improved Excel export (not a priority for me though)
24 hours cool down
Rating of a swap displayed on the swap page
Specify you are not interested in the other years/variations of coin, so that it shows like you already have all the years/variations.
More features included in the mobile version
Hashtags for coins
External links on coin pages (Wikipedia, forum discussions, etc)
Number of potential exchangeable coins shown also on the profile
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So Xavier has the info, the ideas etc.
Lets wait he has time to solve all that.
Or gives a temporary proposition (like use of the edge field).
Cheers,
André
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I've never conversed with Xavier, but in his defense , the comments that are posted here that he made with regard to update to the site are over a year old.
I've made comments here before saying that historic comments should be left in the past, and we should all move forward.
Not forgetting, but at least forgiving.
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I'm not an expert in any kind of coins, but I reckon I'm good at research and will do my best to help. Feel free to tell me my identifications/valuations/gradings are wrong. It's the only way I'll learn.
What I meant is that it may not be necessary to rewrite the same ideas on and on again.
They were well writen and summarized in those past messages and are there.
No complain.
When there is time to do something, there they are.
Sounds better like this ?
Regards,
André
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Wasn't having a pop at you, some of the quotes in this thread are undated, so skimming the thread looks like Xavier has recently said things are on his to do list.
(Also, I was a little drunk last night, so I probably shouldn't have been posting anyway!)
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We have a saying in the US "The squeaky wheel gets the grease" and I think this applies to a lot of the members concerns. If members continue to bring it up then hopefully it will get fixed otherwise it tends to be forgotten about or put aside to be fixed on a later day. When there is only one person that can make the changes the first changes he is going to make are the ones that people complain about the most.
Since this is a new possibility, could you post on this thread some example of what you have already done with variants ? So we can see the good ideas fot our future modif requests ?
Here is an example for a 1984 Mexican peso I just added to the page. I have never found a good written description of where to find the engraver's initials on this coin, so the picture makes all the difference...
