World Mints - Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth mint ?

Hi ^_^

I've recently started writing the mints on each of my world coins from pre-WW2 times. I had no idea this was such a huge task - for many coins (even some from the 30s or 40s) the mint is unknown.
I don't think i can make a thread where i post all the coins i have doubts on (documentation uncertain) so i guess i'll just create several threads for each of the more important coins in my collection. And ask about each of them.
Also, i would like to ask anyone else who embarked on such a large task if they know of any helpful site or documentation i would really appreciate it.

So anyway, one of the more important and older coins in my collection is this:
https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces31087.html
I have the 1755 KM#147.2 - "H" below crowned arms type.
Can anyone tell me what does the "H" mean ? Is it even the mint mark ? Where were these coins minted ?

I like making list and the additional informations for the coins I posses which includes the mints. I struggle even with some post WW2 mints I don't want to think of the mints from hundreds of years ago  


an excerpt from my Excel list between year and Σ (quantity) there are many holes in my list for mints

At the moment I have only 1 link bookmarked and they seem to be modern mints http://www.mintsoftheworld.com/mints.html other informations I get from Numsita and similar sites and my K&M Katalogs are also helpfull at times.


In regards to your Polish Grosz (3 Solidi) my 1701-1800 (from 2010) Katalog fails miserably because the country and mint informations are not from Poland instead they are from the Philippines    kind if a big mistake even for Krause Publications.

Quote: IdolenzI like making list and the additional informations for the coins I posses which includes the mints. I struggle even with some post WW2 mints I don't want to think of the mints from hundreds of years ago  

Actually, you'd be surprised. Finding the mints for coins made in the 1800s was very simple. Back then, it seems like all coins had clear mintmarks. The worst (so far) lots to find the mints are actually post-WW2 from what i see. And the absolute worst is post-WW2 communist eastern-Europe and the Balkans.

Quote: IdolenzAt the moment I have only 1 link bookmarked and they seem to be modern mints http://www.mintsoftheworld.com/mints.html other informations I get from Numsita and similar sites and my K&M Katalogs are also helpfull at times.

Careful with that mints of the world site. The info there is kinda vague. For example, look what it says on the czech mint: http://www.mintsoftheworld.com/czechmint.html
However the Canadian maple leaf on my 1993 2CZK coin, or the coat of arms of Hamburg on my 10CZK coin disagree.
Krause does help at times.

Quote: Idolenz
In regards to your Polish Grosz (3 Solidi) my 1701-1800 (from 2010) Katalog fails miserably because the country and mint informations are not from Poland instead they are from the Philippines    kind if a big mistake even for Krause Publications.

Odd mistake, it's not in my edition tho. I do however have another complaint for Krause:

I would guess Hamburg (Germany)

Ole

What irritates me is that it begins with B, H, S, V, seemingly random letters and proceeds with nearly the full alphabet. In regards to the Hamburg hypothesis I am not aware that Hamburg used a single  H as a mintamark at that time, mostly 2 or 3 letters for each mint-master were the norm. If I follow your train of thought it could also be from Brussels under Austria which used the H from 1725-64 for F. Harrewyn.
I think at least the ones in alphabetical order are die markers but that is no solution to my initial B H S V problem.

As such you're right, I thought about Hamburg because of this:

http://ns2.hydroponicsonline.com/store/1753-H-Solidus-Augustus-Iii-Poland-Germany-Lithuania_221573414314.html

where Germany has been added to Poland-Lithuania...

Anyway the coat of arms for Hamburg is

Ole

Hi again,

Gerhard Schoen (Weltmuenzenkatalog) gave me this answer:

Hi,

the letters you are wondering about are just the batch numbers running from A to (nearly) Z (V or X).
All these have been minted in Guben (Gubin).

Gerhard

So now that has been cleared up?

Ole

Wow, i've never even heard of that mint !
Why doesn't Krause say anything about it tho ? I'm having a hard time finding information about that mint.

Hi,

I've forwarded the information to KM and we'll see, if it will be included in a future edition

Ole

Here is some dokumentation I found here:
http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guben
where you find this in German:

Im Zusammenhang mit den Bestrebungen, das polnische Münzwesen zu reformieren, ließ August III. als König von Polen nicht nur in Grünthal, sondern auch in Guben in der Nähe der damaligen polnischen Grenze riesige Mengen an Kleingeld aus Kupfer prägen. Allein im Jahr 1753 waren es rund 25.000.000 Schillinge und 260.000 Groschen. Da diese Münzen kein Münzmeisterzeichen tragen, lassen sie sich nicht der jeweiligen Münzstätte zuordnen. Als im Jahr 1756 die preußischen Armeen Friedrichs II. im Siebenjährigen Krieg Sachsen besetzten, wurden die Prägungen eingestellt.

This translates more or less to:

August III wanted to reform the Polish coin policy, so he opened another coin center, in addition to the one in Gruenthal, in Guben. Enormous amounts of small copper coins were minted here. In only the year 1753 25.000.000 Schillinge and 260.000 Groschen were struck in Guben. Since these coin don't have signs indicating the mint master, it's not possble to assign the coins to where they were struck. In 1756 the Preussians (Friedrich II) took over the area (Saxen) and the striking of coins was stopped.


I hope this has helped you a bit

Ole

That helped a lot actually. The english article is a lot smaller.
Thank you for the help :)