The first one seems to be a 10 Pfennig token from the company Rotsiegel. Rotsiegel was a tie manufacturer in Berlin, Germany.
The second one seems to be a tram (streetcar) 20 Pfennig token from the city of Dresden, Germany.
The other ones I have seen had on the obverse a fiber card commercial advertise like this one:

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If you can't find this on numista.com you can add them to the catalog. Register them as tokens.
Hope this helps.
Best regards.