Ottoman Empire Managir XVI - XVII  ?

Hi,
Can you help to identify this coins ? This photo is better that i can make.

Can somebody help me to find out what  this coin is ? I found that Mangir means copper coin i cant identify this coin, there is no information at Numista, anybody have some ideas ?

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Weight  2.7g

Hi Damian,

I seriously do not know. It si NOT Hungarian, and if Ottoman, then it is not the mainstream akce line

Thank you foran information imreh i will be still searching for this coin :)

Maybe these three letters could help

Quote: cyprusalexander

Maybe these three letters could help

T-m-s      i am not getting closer

thanks, so it will be "ta ha sin" ?

most probably 'ma' instead of 'ha', or 'ta' again but shorter.

Though it's definitely Muslim, for there is Arabic on the coin.

Thanks cyprusalexander,
So it will be an ottoman coin ? I will try to get better photo of this coin maybe this will help something
ta ha sin or ha ha sin it will be a name of a ruler ?

Not obligatory. It's a circle inscription. The words could start and end any moment. The first is 'ta' but there is possibility the same sing with additional dot, so there are 2 letters actually. Same with the second 'mim' that could be 'ha' and again 'ta' as well. Same with 'sin' that could be 'sha' or a collection of three letters and you still don't know the words separation.

Being in your shoes I would try to check in catalogs, such as Mitchener the general style at the beginning.

Add some more photo, i was checking Mitchener  one book and didn't found that coin. In the first pic there is M letter am i right ?

Can inscription be the name of the mint?

I was searching a lot for this coin couple days ago i have add some post at lot of numismatic fourm and finally i know all about this coin. Thank you very much guys for your help, now i make a better photo and add coin at Numista :
Ottoman AE Mangir, Bayazid II, 886-918AH, Kostantaniye, ND

Obv.: In the centre circle: Bayazid, around: [duriba] Kostantaniye
Rev.: Ornament

Kabaklarli: Mangir 08-Qos-51

Funny. I was sure, that it should be something like 'sultan', rather then just 'struck at Constantinople'.

Congratulations!