Grade these two German coins please

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I had taken a low res pic b4 of the 5 pfennig. But since I now have a way to take higher res pics, figured I'd ask opinions. The 5 pfennig is in a air tight holder that I cannot manage to open, so I had to take pic with it on, sorry :(






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MS unc for the 5 pfennig and the other looks like a AU
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To me the lettering on the 5 Pf doesn't look quite right. Not as smooth as it should be ...
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Your 5 pfennig coin looks very nice. If it is uncirculated
It looks at least an ms 64. You cannot grade a coin by
A pic.  Grading coins is not very hard. Get a american
Numismatic association grading standards book and
 you can learn 75% of what you need to know to grade coins.
The other 25% you get from experience.  But when you grade
Be honest with yourself and don't grade higher for the $.
I bought graded coins to help me with my grading. Jim

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